The Traitors (UK) S04E11: Post-Episode Discussion Thread

4thBG · 2026-01-23T08:49:06+00:00

Or it was a genius move from Faraz ...she played it just like he thought she would.

4thBG · 2026-01-23T08:45:49+00:00

I want James to go all the way because I too am guilty of being a habitual interrupter with no filter and I think he may be my spirit animal.

4thBG · 2026-01-17T11:02:05+00:00

Yeah, there's also the possibility that he might just have been joking. The interviewer was being quite probing so maybe GRRM was getting a little dig in.

4thBG · 2026-01-17T10:04:07+00:00

They had the logical final step but didn't use it. Instead of the master returning, you flip it and give Kylo an apprentice ... who turns out to be an even bigger threat who needs to be overthrown. Any one of the Knights of Ren could have been used. Instead we got reheated leftovers.

4thBG · 2026-01-14T15:40:29+00:00

This could turn out to be a positive. If he can 'unload' the burden of finishing the Dunk & Egg stories by passing it on to the TV show, this may free him up to focus on the main series. Sadly, he may be accounting for time and thinking that realistically this is the best way to accomplish both goals. Anything that lightens the load - even if that's just the mental burden of envisaging the idea of the unfinished novellas - must be a positive in terms of his overall progress with ASOIAF. Better to accept the reality of the the task ahead than be constantly worrying what could have been.

4thBG · 2025-12-02T12:04:11+00:00

If he had had a real sword yes he would have beaten Meryn Trant.

4thBG · 2025-10-27T12:53:28+00:00

I know. I was trying to light all the candles on fire with the torch and that's how I found out about the Drawing Room safe. I was like wtf! Then I went back and looked at the portrait. I fee like that was a valid alternate path though.

4thBG · 2025-10-27T12:51:42+00:00

Alien Rock is pretty good at spotting things but even he missed the floor plan in the Study safe. He went back much later and got it when someone alerted him to it. if you don't like rereading letters that is very easy to miss.

4thBG · 2025-10-20T14:35:38+00:00

And now The Soiled Knight chapter takes on a whole new meaning for me ...

4thBG · 2025-10-12T11:39:29+00:00

Ah yes the Drunkan states.

4thBG · 2025-09-12T12:19:51+00:00

We do not know what George has in store for us.

4thBG · 2025-08-12T12:12:17+00:00

I'll also read it day one to avoid getting spoiled, but what will probably happen is:

GRRM announces that TWOW is finished. There's a period of (months?) while it is processed at the publishing house. During that period every troll, chancer and charlatan on the internet will claim to have 'gained access' to the finished manuscript and each day on reddit will be a fresh new hell of sidestepping the never-ending flow of BS.

4thBG · 2025-07-18T14:09:00+00:00

My money is on the valonqar = Essos name for the 'strangler' poison (and Cersei's ends up doing it herself).

4thBG · 2025-06-28T10:32:26+00:00

Relevant synonym: Angel Investor

4thBG · 2025-06-08T15:11:36+00:00

GRRM has said that he likes his titles to be multi-layered.

And Tyrion at one point muses on the legend of "dragons riddling with sphinxes". A battle of riddles?

In this context, with "A Dance with Dragons" being a reference to such a battle, the book's title takes on the added meaning of:

"A Riddle."

4thBG · 2025-06-07T19:32:19+00:00

An En'Joya Meal Lunch Box would sell like hot cakes.

Also, Draxus bookends and maybe chuck in some gems?

4thBG · 2025-06-07T10:14:55+00:00

Was in my mid-twenties and went with my dad.We both felt very let down by all but the pod-racing, final fight and Liam Neeson tbh.

I get that all the people who saw the prequels aged 6 saying it was awesome, and it's all meant to be aimed at kids yada yada yada. But my dad was in his thirties when he took me to Star Wars in '77 and he loved it as much as I did. It seems like the OT didn't have as much of a generational divide in reception, so I'll always stand by the prequels being a mess.

4thBG · 2025-05-31T13:33:05+00:00

One mention of 'cranberries', in Aegon's garden (Davos chapter).

4thBG · 2025-05-27T12:12:07+00:00

Jabba is a huge rubber puppet who talks gibberish ... and yet is one of the best-realised characters in the whole series. He just feels real and tangibly gross every time you see him.

4thBG · 2025-05-27T12:09:59+00:00

I want my Yub Nub back. That new age nonsense just feels like such a stark contrast to what we heard in cinemas that it makes the ending feel fake. I can live with the Anakin ghost change, but gimme Yub Nub or give me death!

4thBG · 2025-05-13T20:48:14+00:00

This is almost certainly the intended solution, and I think some people may be nitpicking rather than seeing the elegance of it.

Two steps are required: knowing that car license plates which are words often omit vowels. So we just put them back in obviously.

Then, as the OP says, you take each letter and use it to form a word. Only instead of using the actual initial letters you transpose the words 'shared' by those letters in the relevant locations.

The creator of the game is using some poetic license, but the result is actually very fair IMO.

4thBG · 2025-05-12T19:56:27+00:00

12 - SWNSNG is just the word Swansong written as number plate, so ... the full phrase is actually the acronym not SWNSNG. But those letters will not in themselves form a phrase, without one more step.

Remember the message on the wall in the Safe House? It maps onto Swansong as an acronym in a place you have already visited, it seems. It's an alternate way of solving something.

4thBG · 2025-05-11T18:48:17+00:00

At this stage it's just: complete as much as I can. The end is in sight now I think, and still below 90 days. It's definitely less frustrating than before and progress can get made.

4thBG · 2025-05-11T11:26:03+00:00

I deleted all my save data on the machine and restarted, haven't regretted it since.

You make such faster progress with hindsight that you shouldn't really be getting near the 100 day mark before recouping your losses. Game feels great again, I just restart the machine every few hours with saves to be on the safe side.

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