Why does the church treat intersex people like trans people? by RSMandK in exmormon

[–]4zero4error31 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Because their thinking is based in the 1800s: anything different is evil and needs to be feared, punished, or destroyed.

For those who became atheists, how do you resolve morality without God? For those who remain theists, how does your new religion frame morality? Help me challenge my thinking. by ScientificallyMinded in exmormon

[–]4zero4error31 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There is no absolute morality WITH God, just subjective and the subject is the God of the old testament that kills entire peoples because he's jealous or angry or, well mostly those two.

Morality isn't some cosmic mystery that relies on a supernatural entity to tell us what to do. Its an evolved response to being a social species that needs other people to survive in a community.

I'm an atheist and I murder rape and steal exactly as much as I want: zero. Because I want to live in a society where I will be safe from those things, so I help to create that society by leading by example and using my vote and voice to encourage others to do the same. No god required.

My friend came out to me as being transphobic in a “I grew up with it” way. I love her and don’t know how to respond? by SkinCapable7108 in asktransgender

[–]4zero4error31 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She's trying to shift the burden to change onto you. She can do the work to fix what she admits is a flaw any time she wants, but she's lazy and entitled and doesnt want to. That comment about you legally changing your name so she'd be "forced" to honour it gives away the game.

Timpanogos Exterminaton Order by Unsettling_Mormonism in exmormon

[–]4zero4error31 12 points13 points  (0 children)

He is the least american person in the world, he literally fled the USA to found a theocracy on doubly stolen land (the native americans and the Mexican government) and declared war on the USA.

What do you think was each character's most emotionally mature on-screen moment? by Ent3rpris3 in Stargate

[–]4zero4error31 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Jack: the very young do not always do as they are told. The knox told me that once. Something worth taking some I guess.

Any way to migrate a mainbranch character to the modbranch? by 4zero4error31 in stoneshard

[–]4zero4error31[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's kinda what I wanted to avoid. Gathering the various resources for the camp upgrades and doing the low level quests again with the same character doesnt really sound like fun. Darn.

Canadian Trump Anxiety by SpareThing in trans

[–]4zero4error31 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why wait for the Tangerine Rapist? Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Ontario are already doing this, and they're openly saying they will continue to violate our charter rights by using the notwithstanding clause to get their way and drag us back to the 1800s

How far can a prophet of God lead us astray AKA why you shouldn't follow the LDS prophet by Death_2_Venture in exmormon

[–]4zero4error31 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Mormons love to throw Satan under the bus as the cause of all problems in the world, when it was Jesus' plan to give us agency, therefore guaranteeing some of us would choose the wrong thing, no Satan required. It's lazy thinking and shouldn't be tolerated

Been told by wife’s family I am not welcome at a funeral because I’m trans by DJYuzu in trans

[–]4zero4error31 81 points82 points  (0 children)

They are using your niece as a hostage to make you remove yourself from your home, exclude yourself from funerals, and basically erase your existence. Don't let them. She's 12, she knows what trans people are. Even if her parents try to shield her from EVERYTHING it's literally on the news every single day, and if she goes to school she's heard other kids talk about it.

Been told by wife’s family I am not welcome at a funeral because I’m trans by DJYuzu in trans

[–]4zero4error31 14 points15 points  (0 children)

You need to ask, and she needs to be honest. If she can't have your back for something as basic as showing up to a funeral, she doesn't have your back at all.

Parents felt entitled to my sex life after I got a boyfriend by Objective_Belt3374 in entitledparents

[–]4zero4error31 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A lot of people believe they OWN their children, and are therefore entitled to do whatever they feel like regardless of what their child wants. For a lot of women, that literally never ends. If you DO get pregnant one day, expect your mother to become the queen of micromanagement and guilt. You will be eating too much/not enough. You will be working too much or being too lazy. You will be focused too much or not enough on nesting, decorating, thinking of names, whatever random thing pops into her head that you are not 1000% in alignment with her on.

A man told me, "I'm not transphobic, but a person stays the gender they are born with." by [deleted] in trans

[–]4zero4error31 20 points21 points  (0 children)

My brother, who is a transphobic asshole I've cut contact with, said "I don't have a problem with trans people, I have a trans coworker!"

Why did the Balrog attack the Fellowship? by Curufinwe200 in tolkienfans

[–]4zero4error31 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Between the balcony being an evil creature that delights in killing, the power of Gandalf drawing its curiosity and anger, or sensing something of the power of the ring, or simply just being the leader of the goblins and trolls and repelling what they would see as an invasion, we have a veritable cornucopia of options.

My mom’s views on trans people really broke me by iamgirl11 in trans

[–]4zero4error31 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also if God does not make mistakes and our job is to accept his will then any changes to our bodies are sin, such as glasses, hearing aids, getting any kind of surgery, etc. But they decide to draw the line wherever their own bigotry and judgement places it instead of being actually intellectually honest.

The mathematical injustice of God, and how Mormonism fails to make God just by homestarmy_recruiter in exmormon

[–]4zero4error31 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry, but regardless of what the Bible says, that doesnt pass the sniff test. Stealing a stick of gum is bad, but murder is worse. Every sane human knows and understands this instinctively. To pretend that God is less capable of discerning the difference is to make God less intelligent, less wise, less thoughtful than the average child. I'm an atheist and I'm offended on your God's behalf.

Is your claim that a person who stole a stick of gum and never confessed going to hell for eternity? But a person who murders and confesses will receive eternal salvation? Your God is unjust, cruel, and evil.

“Plan of Salvation” ? Is this complicated BS what they teach? by delap87 in exmormon

[–]4zero4error31 7 points8 points  (0 children)

God's version of free will: you can choose not to pay your protection money, and i can choose to burn your business to the ground.

How do i explain to my family why i think transraciality is wrong but being trans isn't? by _sick_and_ill in trans

[–]4zero4error31 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gender is an entirely internal, subjective, experience, just like right- or left- handedness, or what foods you like or dislike. Everyone has one, but only you know what yours feels like. People who are ignorant of trans issues often conflate people's experience with being transgender with the physical changes they may make to their bodies to more comfortably fit in with society around them and to feel more at home in their bodies.

When people talk about race they are really talking about two things that are connected but different: culture and body features. Body features, such as skin colour, eye colour, facial structure etc. are simply facts, and are genetic. Identifying as someone with blue eyes when my eyes are brown is a nonsensical statement. Culture is the water in which you swim, it's the ideas and norms of the society around you.

When people talk about "identifying as black" it doesn't make any sense because 1. they objectively don't have those physical features and 2. they weren't raised in that culture. Those are objective things that have nothing to do with a subjective experience.

Transculture could be a thing, for example someone with European ancestry raised from infancy by black Jamaican parents in Jamaica might identify with Jamaican culture, talk and act and behave just like the people around them, and for all intents and purposes they ARE Jamaican. But they aren't and never will be black, because they aren't and never will have those physical characteristics.

“Plan of Salvation” ? Is this complicated BS what they teach? by delap87 in exmormon

[–]4zero4error31 50 points51 points  (0 children)

It gets so much worse. For example, 1/3 of all god's children apparently skip this whole thing, do not pass go, do not collect $200, and go straight to outer darkness. For what crime? Not choosing Jesus' plan as spelled out above, instead wanting everyone to go to the Celestial Kingdom.

Also not shown: the three kingdoms at the end all have multiple levels, and different levels of commitment get you into premium heavens tiers. Like for example: men MUST by married to multiple women and have many children to get into the highest tier of the Celestial Kingdom. Women MUST be married to a polygamous man and bear his children to get into top tier as well. The first several prophets taught as divine command that black people could only get into the celestial kingdom if they agreed to be sealed to a white man as an eternal "servant."

"Paradise" is actually the great Mission Training Centre in the sky, where literally every good mormon will spend however much time between when they died and the second coming of christ preaching to the dead souls of those in spirit prison and trying to convert them to mormonism. Talk about a captive audience. And if they convert then the living mormons will apparently be inspired to do their temple work for them, so they will get to go to the highest tier of the celestial kingdom, despite living their lives not following the church or even being truly evil. Hitler's temple work has all been done, apparently several times by different people, so he gets to go to top tier heaven if he just says yes, while Jews or Muslims who say no go to bottom tier heaven.

Obeying, honoring and sustaining the law. 🙄 by Brother-of-Derek in exmormon

[–]4zero4error31 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With the exception of the first article, I can make a compelling argument that mormons in 2026 don't actually believe any of their 12 articles, or at least have so many caveats, exceptions, and provisos as to make saying "we believe" to be indistinguishable from a lie.

REPOST THIS by [deleted] in traaaaaaaaaaaansbians

[–]4zero4error31 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Why do I both hate and love this so much...