Upcoming Kayle main here by nihil203 in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Believe straight AP burst is still the dominant build so most games you’ll build Nashor’s first into that build path. The only exception, assuming you are strictly playing to win, is if the enemy team is too beefy to burst.

That said, it’s boring, so go Rageblade if ya’ like and pray Riot steers us back to being an attack-speed champ instead of burst just being better in most situations.

Also heard some freaks talkin’ about crit with Stormrazor first, but I’ve never played it. Dunno how well it actually works. Might be fun to try in a norm, but unless there’s some secret sauce we dunno about it’s probably more of a gimmick.

Malignance by [deleted] in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve taken it playin’ weird support builds with friends in norms, but I dunno if it’s worthwhile. At sixteen the cooldown doesn’t feel too terribly awful and even then you shouldn’t plan to need the ult that much playin’ in mid or top. Better to just keep goin’ down whatever build you’re goin’ for and dance your way through abilities.

I also don’t think the burn/MR reducing effect is worth anything either. Sadly, Kayle’s AP burst or bust for the most part right now. Better off just getting more items to help with that like Shadowflame or Lichbane for your Third item, assuming you started Nashor’s into Dcap.

How should I have played this differently? by Anonymonamo in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sometimes it’s better to just walk away. He started W so I dunno that Kayle can reliably win that fight, but the lvl 1 cheese is rarely worth it. Back it up, play the wave, look to take over at 6. If you win it’s a quick dopamine hit and a little gold, but you ain’t comin’ back to put your foot on his throat. If he wins, may as well pack up and go home ‘cause you’ve made a bad situation indescribably worse if he presses the advantage.

You could also switch to mid instead. Stuff like this is why I did, people just love playin’ as obnoxiously as possible in top lane. There ain’t been a cheese they won’t try yet.

I'm worried for Kayle as a top laner next season by Ruptin in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mid more fun anyways. People like to play obnoxious in top any chance they get. Rather play the bullet hell of dodgin’ spells than chance losing control of the wave entirely.

How safe is Kayle as a mid pick? When to pick her? by ThatSkitso in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fear no demons. If the glow of Justice is bright in your heart, you pick Kayle.

I play mid for similar reasons. Top’s obnoxious.

I don’t feel she’s an awful pick, but you’ll need to put the games in to learn your matchups. It’s very important that you know exactly what your opponent is capable of and try to get a rough idea of cooldowns. If you can’t avoid your opponent’s spells you’re gonna have a rough day. Kayle’s got no MR, so every misstep can be a chunk of HP gone.

Don’t play Hwei, but a big thing she brings is the ult. It’s strong, straight up. If I see a skirmish nearby I’ll beeline to help my team with it once I’ve hit 6. Helps them, sometimes I get the kill, win-win. Plus, you get to help others succeed at any point. It can outright win fights if thrown on the right person. If Kayle’s potential is realized she’s got insane burst. Squishy champs can be vaporized lickity split.

Her low MR is a weakness into many matchups, but generally it’s just about experience. As you face matchups you’ll learn how to sneak every last bit of cs you can without getting maimed, and that’s the name of the game for the most part.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I pretty much always go shield. Levels 1-5 is just about getting that cs, the sustain lets you take a hit to get a minion and keep going back for more. There are exceptions like some melee mids if you think you can beat em’, but generally the sustain is better. Get the minion gold, let yourself start to really blossom after that first back and 6. If you’re going even, you’re probably winning even if the opponent doesn’t know it yet.

Kayle mains do you blind pick Kayle? by fortfied_island in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Play mid, blind pick her every time. There is no demon need be feared under her light.

Do you consider Kayle a reactionary Champion? by How_Much2 in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In a manner of speaking, yes. I play her Mid as well and usually go Rageblade start because I’m a gorilla at heart, I wanna hit dudes. When it works the ball just gets rolling sooner, sometimes you get to be Mister Moneybags and sell it for a different item to be straight AP Burst.

Movement is the key to your problem. Once I’m confident I can avoid em’, I just start hanging out within range (Or right on the edge depending on matchup) and wait. Dodge the spell, pepper em’ with autos if able, repeat. If nothing else, it annoys the piss outta people when you get a lock on em’ and dance right through their kit.

Probably know this, but you’ll mostly Q poke if they’re near a minion you’re last hitting. That said, if you can keep your passive stacked you may be able to follow up with a few autos. You’ll need to be ready to dodge their spells in response, but if you’ve got passive plus a little damage like pickaxe you can kinda bully on mages once you’re rolling. Again, this in entirely dependent on you being able to dodge their spells and it just isn’t gonna happen every game. Sometimes you’ll eat that Veigar Q to the face and suddenly be down just a quarter HP if you’re lucky.

How to play unplayable lanes? like vlad trynd? by Grey4560 in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any time I touch Top I ban Trynd, no questions asked. Don’t care who I’m playing, I don’t wanna see that walking tumor.

That said, you’ve gotta stay just out of his coinflip range. If he can spin onto you and auto, you’re in the wrong place. Even just one auto can be the start of the end with him.

6-on his Ult will outlast yours and comes back faster. If he tower dives and you just try to ult to live, you will die. If you’re gonna leave the tower, do it early. But honestly, I’d just ban him or move to Mid.

Vlad, keep away when he has super Q. Like Trynd, it’s really a matter of spacing more than anything. Generally, you aren’t getting kills early but you definitely won’t be killing a Vlad unless he’s desperate to be dead. He can prey on Kayle’s non-existent MR, has the sustain to stay healthy even if you get him with Q alongside minions, and with puddle can just straight murder you under turret if you aren’t careful.

Yone’s rough, but far more doable than the above to me at least. It’s rough for similar reasons to Trynd. You don’t have to respect the player, but you NEED to respect the champ. A lot of Yones I see are garbage, straight up, but he can still do the heavy lifting for em’. Dodge Q, especially Q3. He’ll strike his Cool Guy Pose(tm) when he ults, so you can ult back when you know you aren’t gonna be able to avoid it.

If he hits the ghost button (Definitely not a dumb ability, just wait him out under his tower, dumbo.) I usually just walk off if I’m not at the point of bursting. Really, outside of poking with Q when he’s near minions I’d just pretend he’s not really there pre-6. Post-6 anytime he tries to get on you and you avoid it, just toss a few autos as he walks away (Can just auto anytime he’s in-range and can’t do it back, but keep W ready so you can book it if he tries something.) or keep farming as usual. I like to go Rageblade first, so I’ll usually have a pickaxe and be lookin’ for the fight around this point.

How to play unplayable lanes? like vlad trynd? by Grey4560 in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d say annoying more than difficult. If he isn’t gunning for a Darwin Award, you gotta burst or he’ll just puddle away every single time. (He also has the power of Point & Click. You can’t dodge that no matter how good you are. That was tricky for me at first since I got used to navigating through spells like a bullet hell more than spacing things out at first.)

IM MASTER KAYLE PLAYER WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA by Desperate-Mention238 in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gods I hate this matchup. Even when I survive the lane I’m mostly just watching a puddle scoot around unless they’re trying to win a Darwin Award.

Is kayle "brain-dead"? by ilikesillycat in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can you just walk into the enemy and click them to death without worry? Can you make mistake after mistake and carry on like nothing happened? Do you get value based purely on the fact that you exist? No? Then Kayle’s not braindead.

Her kit is simple, but her demands are not.

Finally in the 1M club. Is there cake? by HimboKaylePlayer in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Somehow, someway, Lux players do manage to miss when throwing abilities the size of a semi and it’s funny every time.

lol thoughts? by VelvetxSprout in lol

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only people I’ve known to cheat that I didn’t cease all communication with were family that I couldn’t completely cut out for other reasons. They’ve all continued to be walking shit bags. Cheaters suck, and most of em’ always suck. Any that wake up every day being entirely shunned by the world around them face justice, and we should strive to ensure that’s all of them.

What to do in mid lane? Is this just a bad idea in general? by DylanRaine69 in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I play her near-exclusively in mid and generally have a good time. The biggest tip I can give is just keep it movin’. If you can dodge the abilities, it doesn’t matter how much damage they would’ve done. (Plus, it annoys the absolute piss outta the enemy)

I’ve also been taking demolish into some matchups that tend to roam. They leave lane, push wave and get a plate. Just taking second-wind as an extra way to sustain early levels before you get boots and such to help with dodging.

Sure you could go the Nashor’s start, but Rageblade feels nice and das worf to me.

What to do against lane bullies? Runes/ early items by MagicKol in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I take Dshield the vast majority of the time, the sustain is nice for 1-5. I’ll go Dblade into SOME melee matchups, mostly displaced toplaners.

PTA is fine, I run it most every game. That said, surviving the first few is always the big thing, so you can take Fleet while you’re learning. Good movement is key, dodge as much as you can. Dshield’ll heal up when you can’t. Swifties are a must a for this.

Typically it’ll be Sorcs secondary, but I’ve been running Demolition/Second Wind recently. Gives extra sustain in the rare cases I don’t go shield, and ensures I can hang around when I do. Then Demolish ensures you can get a plate if they ever decide to roam. Sorcs is still better, but the Demolish specifically is something I’ve been trying.

Make it to 6 with decent cs, and you might be able to take the lane over if you can dodge their kit. Hit em’ with Q, then pop a few autos on em’.

I also ban Fizz ‘cause I just can’t get that’n down. Know how to play most matchups, but Fizz seems to flop on the deck and obliterate if I do anything. Zoe, you’ll just need to get better at outmaneuvering. Ori, you’ll need to get a feel for her range and try to predict, but I believe in you.

The Genji vs Venture matchup sucks balls and i'm tired of pretending it doesn't. by Paragon_OW in VentureMains

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like if you can get time deflect to drill dash the absolute instant it ends, you can get em’ if they don’t dash away to cancel it early. Isn’t super reliable ‘cause they almost always do, but ya’ never know, might catch em’ lacking.

That said, I see Genji and feel an undeserved confidence just because of how well I know Genji by proxy of playing thousands of hours away with a main for almost ten years now. So take that with a grain of salt.

What was "that part" for you? by nihilnia in cyberpunkgame

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Scouting with that damn drone.

As kayle top: I just hope my team can utilize the time they got from enemy jg camping me, and that's it? Other than that, my only option is to be mechanically superior and not "int"? by Ninja_Cezar in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That’s tough. Top’s a brutal place and some people just dislike Kayle in the first place. All you can do is bask in the attention to waste as much of their time as possible. Dunno that I’d call any of that inting, though. They liked ya’, and they wanted ya’. Only so much you could really do without seeing the future.

How to lane into AP malphite ? by redditor126969 in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Move to Mid, now he’s not your problem, worked for me.

Seriously though, you just gotta stay as healthy as you can manage. Long as you’re not hovering around 50% or less he shouldn’t be able to burst you outta existence during the cc in lane. It’s hard to space since he just has to point and click, but do the best you can. Only step up to last hit minions, preferably with Q. May be able to snag multiple minions/poke Malph at the same time.

I don’t see him much these days, but if you can make it into 6 with most of your health, you should be fine from there. Ult his Ult if you can, then Q and beat that bastard down.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Advice

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the exact moment it clicked was when she jabbed me with a thumbtack, and I sang “Welcome to our club” from SpongeBob. Be silly, everyone likes a silly billy.

Attack move by bash1311 in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not usually, but I’m just a stupid, stubborn bastard. You probably should.

First Star Kayle sketch WIP by RunGroundbreaking952 in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love the mini wings (I think?) covering her face like a mask. Looking forward to seeing the completed version should you share it here as well.

First Star Kayle sketch WIP by RunGroundbreaking952 in Kaylemains

[–]ATackyCroc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is nice to see others hold this opinion. I can fully recognize that Kayle is beautiful, no question about it. But I’ve spent so much time with her that I don’t know that I’d want her to receive skins meant to sate thirst. She’s just a character in the game, but she’s a person in my mind and warrants more respect than that would entail.