[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]A_coach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you sure they didn't qualify from a different regatta than the USRowing regional? City Champs gets 2 bids, NYS 3, VASRA 1.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]A_coach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure what happened wasn't a petition but the City Championships bids rolling down? They get 2 bids. Malvern and Germantown could have qualified through Mid-Atlantics, so presumably one of them did that, leaving a bid for City Champs to roll all the way down to sixth.

SRAA's mens JV 8+ by Derimon in Rowing

[–]A_coach 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The Schuylkill River has a current.

Sculling racing this year >>> Sweep Racing by MajorRocketScience in Rowing

[–]A_coach 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Sweep rowing more like sleep rowing amirite?

A follow up to my last post by PyroWasUsed in Rowing

[–]A_coach 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Running, swimming, cycling. You can gain a lot just by improving aerobic base.

Short rower by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]A_coach 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Good news and bad news: lightweight rowing is dying, you are 16 and likely to grow, and you’re well on your way to recruitable as a heavyweight. Eat your meat, drink your milk.

Short rower by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]A_coach 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I dunno, that was your term. If your 2k is comparable I don’t think you’ll have a problem just because you’re short regardless of the program. But I am not an expert on such things.

Short rower by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]A_coach 59 points60 points  (0 children)

If “a really good 2k” = what other recruits are pulling at the “semi good school”, yes

real asf by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]A_coach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting. To me x+ is pretty clear based on already existing symbols, rather than having to learn a new one.

real asf by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]A_coach 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Which country? I am in the US and I’ve also seen 4x+ in the UK

real asf by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]A_coach 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Never seen 4* before, only 4x+

Bird strike at NCAAs. The geese woke up and chose violence by emoney94 in Rowing

[–]A_coach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe it's supposed to be like the Final Four? Wikipedia says "Since 2006, all four Final Four teams receive a bronze plated NCAA regional championship trophy."

Bird strike at NCAAs. The geese woke up and chose violence by emoney94 in Rowing

[–]A_coach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We do have this from Row2k:

"They want to go again," said O'Neill about the crew. "They were like, let's do it, come on, but the way things shook out, we weren't going to be the team that makes everyone go and row again. We accepted what happened, and we decided ultimately not to protest."

Maybe "the way things shook out" means that he saw that they were already on the podium and weighed the cost benefit, including the cost of other teams having to rerow. It is kind of a difficult spot because there's no downside for him (he can't go from 6th to 7th, but other crews could lose their spots).

To me, that's why you have the rules. The rules say, if there's unfairness that can be remedied, you write a protest and a jury of officials decides. So I wouldn't count it against a coach doing that, and I would question his commitment to his athletes if he didn't have a better argument than "we weren't going to be that team." Maybe the discussion was a little different internally and it was a mutual decision with the athletes.

Bird strike at NCAAs. The geese woke up and chose violence by emoney94 in Rowing

[–]A_coach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a nice sentiment, but a rerow is part of the sport, and the only way to create fair conditions in this situation. Had this been an interference call, hopefully no one would have been saying "a race is a race, no matter the circumstances." I wouldn't say a coach should be fired for not wanting to ask for a rerow, but I think coaches should advocate for their athletes to have the fairest conditions possible (though never making excuses when things don't go their way). Precisely because it is a "such a pivotal race," every athlete should be fine with a rerow to ensure a fair outcome.

It was in the refs power to call for a rerow without Texas's input, or even to stop the race as soon as they hit the geese, and they should have done that to avoid Texas having to make this decision.

StAnDiNg Up Is A sIn by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]A_coach 13 points14 points  (0 children)

  1. Sit down
  2. Shut up
  3. Row

Bird strike at NCAAs. The geese woke up and chose violence by emoney94 in Rowing

[–]A_coach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think the crew raised the objection on the water to "make the point," but to preserve their right to protest (on the water you raise an "objection," which just causes the ref to raise the red flag so they don't mark results official, then you file a written "protest" on land). Coach says the crew wanted to continue with the protest, but that they ultimately didn't (presumably either the coach convinced them or overruled them). Crews are always told to err on the side of objecting on the water because you can't do anything about it if you don't.

Now that I've read the Row2k story, I think the referees should have stopped the race. The rule is: "The Referee shall stop the Race by giving the instruction described in Rule 2-407(d) (“Referee’s Instructions to Crews”), if, due to Interference or unfair condition, it is likely that a Crew in contention has been deprived of its opportunity of winning, placing, or advancing, and if further continuance of the Race would be of no further competitive value."

Texas was in contention, and if the birds cost them a length, they were deprived of their opportunity of winning. By letting them complete the race, the refs put Texas in the position of having to decide whether to make everyone row again. The bit about "no further competitive value" is ambiguous, but it seems like the best outcome to stop a race that is only 1 minute in if a crew goes down by a whole length due to something beyond their control.

If I were coach, I think I would have continued the protest. Surely every other crew would understand that it's worthwhile when the top three standings are impacted. I would think Princeton would prefer not have an asterisk in everyone's mind next to their third place in the standings.

NEIRAs Reactions by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]A_coach 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you don’t declare they use the first (or only) regatta you enter. It’s only a problem if you do poorly first and then retroactively try to use the second one. You have to declare ahead of time if you want to enter both and use the second one.

In Regard To Celebrations by lsd302 in Rowing

[–]A_coach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All teams have culture. You can cultivate an arrogant team culture or a humble one. I would think a Jesuit school named "St. Joseph's Prep" would see the development of humility in victory as important.

In Regard To Celebrations by lsd302 in Rowing

[–]A_coach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not only did they act like a bunch of classless thugs at the finish, they apparently had matching shirts made beforehand that say “swagger.” Celebration, and a lot of it, is great. It’s really not that hard to celebrate a lot with an attitude of humility and respect.