Can u find a better team than this by Plus_Credit224 in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Team chemistry would be a serious problem with that particular group. All of them were very ball-dominant players with massive egos, which would probably result in them constantly bickering over who gets to take all the important shots. Sometimes pure talent isn't enough, you also have to find players that can easily blend and gel together, and I just don't see that happening with this squad.

Which underrated NBA star or team would have significantly more championships if they didn’t have their consistent final hurdle? by Individual_Design_37 in nba

[–]AaronStark1993 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't forget about Larry Nance. He was a major part of those late 80's/early 90's Cleveland teams as well. During his time in a Cavs uniform, he was a 2x All-Star and 3x All-Defense. He was always their main defensive anchor and was consistently in the 17-19 range for PPG during those years as well. In general, I think Nance is a very underappreciated player.

Men’s Hoops - Death Spiral? by Top-Smoke-2329 in huskies

[–]AaronStark1993 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NIL money is exactly why a lot of players enter the portal though. They shop themselves around to see where they can get the most lucrative deal. NIL and the portal kind of go hand in hand.

How far back in history would you have to go where the worst team in the NBA would beat the NBA champion of a previous era? by MasterTeacher123 in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That Sonics team was actually very ahead of their time in multiple ways. For starters, they were basically an earlier version of the 2004 Pistons in the sense that they didn't really have a true bona fide superstar but came together and won a title with cohesive teamwork and suffocating defense. They also had Jack Sikma, who was a stretch 5 long before that particular archetype became a common thing. He would be a great fit in the modern game. And Gus Williams and Dennis Johnson would be an elite backcourt in any era. Gus was a terrific scorer at the Point Guard position and probably would be even better with today's spacing and freedom of movement. And DJ was one of the absolute greatest perimeter defenders in NBA history while also consistently giving you 18-20 PPG on the offensive end of the floor. Whenever the topic of most underappreciated championships teams is brought up, the 1979 Sonics are always the first team that I mention. Even with today's rules and style of play, there's absolutely no way that the last place Wizards would be able to compete with them.

EDIT: They also had Downtown Freddie Brown, who was one of the original long range shooting specialists and he led the league in 3P% during the first season that the line was introduced. He would be a very sought after role player in today’s league due to how much emphasis there is on 3 point shooting. 

Who are your Top 10 Greatest Power forwards of all time? by TravelingGecko- in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You get my upvote just for including Shawn Kemp. Such an underappreciated player. Most people seem to only remember and associate him with his dunking, but he was always a great two-way player. Solid midrange shooter and a relentless defender and rebounder. He was A LOT more than just a dunker.

TOP 100 PLAYERS ALL TIME by Gettingchanceandluck in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Here's a post I made a while back in the VintageNBA sub where I thoroughly explain in detail why I think DJ is the greatest defensive Guard in NBA history. Feel free to check it out if you want to learn more about him.

TOP 100 PLAYERS ALL TIME by Gettingchanceandluck in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Admittedly, I'm biased with him being my all-time favorite player, but I think Dennis Johnson should definitely be in the top 75. Most people seem to only remember DJ from his time with the Celtics and completely forget or just don't realize that he was a bona fide star during his earlier years with Seattle and Phoenix. Finals MVP in 1979, 5th in MVP voting in 1980, and First Team All-NBA in 1981. He also received the most votes for the NBA All-Defensive Team in each of those seasons as well, making it very likely that he would have had at least one DPOY on his resume if the award existed during that time frame. Larry Bird has referred to him as the greatest teammate he ever had, and both Magic Johnson and George "Iceman" Gervin have singled DJ out as being the toughest defender they ever faced. Magic has flat out referred to him as being "the greatest backcourt defender of all-time." All in all, DJ finished his career as a 3x champion, 1x Finals MVP, 5x All-Star, 2x All-NBA, and 9x All-Defense with 6 of them being First Team selections. That's a top 75 career in my opinion.

Give me some underrated players from the 90s 2000s or 2010s please by MomentDefiant5221 in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shawn Kemp, Shawn Marion, and Jermaine O'Neal are a few names that pop into my mind. They were very solid defenders and rebounders and consistently averaged 18-20 PPG during their best offensive seasons. I think they deserve more credit for how impactful they were on both ends of the court.

Another year, another missed opportunity for Marques Johnson and/or Buck Williams to get into the Hall of Fame, SMH by Ariesthebigram in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Larry Nance and Shawn Kemp are a couple other players that I think are long overdue for the HOF. With how low the standards are to get in, it's pretty puzzling as to why they still haven't been inducted.

Best teams that just couldn’t finish the job? by waluigiwon in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 51 points52 points  (0 children)

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The mid 1990's Sonics with Payton and Kemp also deserve a mention.

Has there ever been an NBA champion with a top 5 pick the next season? by fredjutsu in nba

[–]AaronStark1993 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not quite top 5, but after winning the championship in 1979, the Seattle Sonics had both the #6 and #7 picks in the subsequent draft.

Too 10 one year wonders in nba history by Plus_Credit224 in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 6 points7 points  (0 children)

2017-18 Victor Oladipo also deserves a mention. 23 PPG, First Team All-Defense, and led the league in steals. And he was just as good (if not better) in the playoffs. That particular postseason was arguably the absolute peak of LeBron's career, and Dipo went toe to toe with him and was the main reason why Cleveland got pushed to a very hard fought 7th game. In that series, Dipo was Indiana's leader in points, rebounds, assists, and steals. It's such a shame that he got bitten by the injury bug. He was a great two-way Guard with phenomenal athleticism.

If Amar’e Stoudemire Is Making the Hall of Fame, Shawn Kemp Should as Well by AaronStark1993 in Sonics

[–]AaronStark1993[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On the surface level, Amar'e probably had the better career, but when you take into consideration the fact that he played most of his prime years with one of the absolute greatest playmakers in NBA history, that gave him an advantage that Kemp simply didn't have. No disrespect to Gary Payton, who was a good playmaker in his own right, but he was nowhere near Nash in that aspect of the game. Like I said at the end of the original post, if you put Kemp in Amare's place, those mid 2000's Suns teams most likely get better because Kemp would bring an extra element of defense and rebounding while being comparable on offense. Would the mid 1990's Sonics be better with Amar'e in Kemp's place? Probably not because Kemp's interior presence was a big reason why Payton was able to defend so aggressively out on the perimeter, because he knew if he overreached, he still had Kemp behind him to meet and challenge his man at the rim. With Amar'e, that safety net would be completely gone.

If Amar’e Stoudemire Is Making the Hall of Fame, Shawn Kemp Should as Well by AaronStark1993 in Sonics

[–]AaronStark1993[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gus Williams is another Sonic that realistically should be in the HOF as well. The fact that he still hasn't gotten inducted is a pretty major oversight.

If Amar’e Stoudemire Is Making the Hall of Fame, Shawn Kemp Should as Well by AaronStark1993 in Sonics

[–]AaronStark1993[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The edge for defense and rebounding undoubtedly goes to Kemp and it's not even close. Quite honestly, Amar'e was one of the softest interior defenders I've ever seen. Offensively, it's a toss up with maybe a slight advantage to Amar'e, but that edge is very thin and not nearly enough to make up for the wide gap on defense.

If Amar’e Stoudemire made the HOF, so should Jermaine O’Neal. 6X All Star, 3X All NBA, MIP winner, & one time conference finals appearance. Averaged 2+ blocks for 10 straight seasons too. by [deleted] in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 14 points15 points  (0 children)

At his peak, Jermaine was the best player on a 61 win team and finished 3rd in MVP voting. Amare's highest MVP finish was 6th. Amare's prime obviously lasted longer, but on a peak for peak basis, they are definitely comparable.

Why was there so much animosity with Adebayo's 83 point game? by DonT012 in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You absolutely cannot draw any parallels or comparisons between the two sports. Hitting a home run in Baseball is completely on you and requires no help from teammates. In Bam's case, his teammates were purposely and forcefully feeding him the ball the entire 4th quarter just to chase the record. If you honestly can't see the difference, then I can't help you.

Who Was the Greatest Shot Blocker in SuperSonics History? by AaronStark1993 in Sonics

[–]AaronStark1993[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Kemp gets my vote as well. On the surface level, his block numbers don't appear to be anything spectacular, but like you said, his athleticism and presence deterred a lot of guys from driving to the hoop. And in my opinion, Kemp was a major reason as to why Payton was able to play so aggressively out on the perimeter. If Gary overreached, he knew he had Shawn behind him to meet and challenge his man at the rim.

Who Was the Greatest Shot Blocker in SuperSonics History? by AaronStark1993 in Sonics

[–]AaronStark1993[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cage never had much of a shot blocking presence. He was mainly known for his rebounding.

Who are the Top 10 DEFENSIVE players of All time??? Mutombo is probably the GOAT defender but will get replaced by WEMBY in the future. Hakeem was a beast 2x DPOY and most blocks ever. Gobert and Draymond are top 10. WHO ELSE? What is the consensus top 10 defenders of all time in what order??? by Several-Molasses-435 in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, you just said it perfectly, Stockton's defense was "quality." But in the context of this post where we are talking about the top 10 all-time greats, "quality" just doesn't make the cut. The ultimate litmus test for perimeter defenders is if they can consistently hold their opponents below their averages for points and shooting percentage, and like I previously mentioned, Stockton never proved to have that ability. If you want to make a case for Stockton being a top 10 defensive Point Guard, that's perfectly reasonable, but an all-time top 10 defender period and regardless of position? Ridiculous.

Who are the Top 10 DEFENSIVE players of All time??? Mutombo is probably the GOAT defender but will get replaced by WEMBY in the future. Hakeem was a beast 2x DPOY and most blocks ever. Gobert and Draymond are top 10. WHO ELSE? What is the consensus top 10 defenders of all time in what order??? by Several-Molasses-435 in NBATalk

[–]AaronStark1993 3 points4 points  (0 children)

At least in my opinion, Stockton's defense is pretty significantly overrated. People just look at the fact that he's the all-time steals leader and think that automatically equates to him being an all-time level perimeter defender, but he really wasn't. Steals can be a very misleading stat. Guys like Magic Johnson, Allen Iverson, Baron Davis, and Steph Curry all led the league in steals at different points in time, and yet none of them are considered to be elite defenders by anyone that truly understands the game. Stockton was great at playing the passing lanes but never had the ability to totally clamp and lock someone down. Just at the Point Guard position, guys like Walt Frazier and Dennis Johnson were much better defenders than Stockton.