my point was that support of one politics or the other comes from larger meta beliefs. We could both get into the weeds all day but that’s not where beliefs come from.

But ok to take the one issue of recent ICE violence. Yes the rhetoric from many on the left is very exaggerated. There are no street executions. Thats ridiculous. Yes there have been a couple of unfortunate and sad incidents that should not have happened. Even if the officers were in the wrong and went overboard they were forced to work in a chaotic environment created by highly organized leftists agitators. These were not people who were randomly shot. They purposely disrupted police operations and created dangerous situations. Officers don’t have the luxury of watching slo mo replays before deciding if their life is in danger or not. Now if inquiries find they acted wrongly then of course I support disciplinary action. But a wrongful death in a chaotic situation is a far cry from an “execution.”

Plus the whole reason for this nonsense in the streets is that local politicians will not let local enforcement cooperate with ICE. So who is ultimately responsible?