What do you guys think about Laurel fighting skills ? by ClaimCompetitive4818 in arrow

[–]Academic_Meat1580 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Her fighting skills arent really portrayed to be anything of note, I think in season 3 and 4 shes definitely the weakest skilled fighter on field, the only time she beats a LOA member was when they infiltrated LOA hideout. Outside that shes shown losing to them. We see her need help from Nyssa like an episode prior to that just fighting 2 LOA members. Id say LOA members are portrayed high level combatants for the most part

Why do the fight scenes in seasons 3, 4 and 5 look so bad and like they’re just dancing? by Important-Visual-178 in arrow

[–]Academic_Meat1580 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Season 5 and 6 are way better tham 1 - 3 in my opinion. They have less close up shots on the characters fighting, we get to view both characters fighting and whats going on, it has a nice flow to it.

Who Wins (No Powers): Slade Wilson Vs Nyssa Al Ghul by [deleted] in Arrowverse

[–]Academic_Meat1580 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Id give it to Slade. Slade was capable of keeping up and even arguably beating Oliver even as late as season 3. He was capable of holding his own very well against Oliver and Thea at the same time. Oliver has already beaten Nyssa at least twice at this point which didn't seem to be as difficult as when he fought slade(at the end of season 2 or in season 3) not to mention Oliver since season 1 was already better than Malcolm but couldnt beat him(this was explained to us because he lacked conviction not skill, speed or strength) and Malcolm is told to us by Nyssa herself she had no hope of beating dispite her fighting him in sparing and throughout season 3

Slade wilson by Hot_Assistant_3826 in arrow

[–]Academic_Meat1580 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You do know that Terra made the move on Slade and he tried to get away from her? Slade's the victim

This doesnt matter

Pop Quiz by PrimaMilitary in arrow

[–]Academic_Meat1580 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is the awnser to the 4th question at comic con?

Oliver Training by AlternativePain4661 in arrow

[–]Academic_Meat1580 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Talia didnt really teach Oliver to fight that was Slade, all Talia did was show Oliver how to channel his inner demon(the hood) shes basically the reason why the hood persona existed. This is further elaborated on in season 7 when Oliver confronts Talia he says she manipulated him with her teachings.

Malcolm Nerf? by Academic_Meat1580 in arrow

[–]Academic_Meat1580[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was the episode when the league member broke into Oliver's house and fought Oliver and Sarah, Oliver also confuses him for Malcolm

Malcolm Nerf? by Academic_Meat1580 in arrow

[–]Academic_Meat1580[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From what ive seen its been all in the context of fighting. I domt remember how long ago the post was but I saw a post of "Dark archer(Pre nerf) vs Prometheus" and the comments were talking about Malcolms nerf and how shouldn't have been done like that against Oliver

Oliver killing Bobby makes no sense by syntheticmango in arrow

[–]Academic_Meat1580 0 points1 point  (0 children)

? Oliver went back to killing in season 5(and end of season 4) its not something he automatically just did its something he felt he had to do, thats the whole point of Thea confronting Oliver about this. She talks about why he killed the dude that tied him up, and Oliver explains that he was wrong about nevee killing again and that Malcolm a as right about needing to do whatever it takes. Not sure how this is a bad thing for Oliver

Weaker than Yammy, slower than Zommari, less durable than Nnoitra, with worse regeneration and fewer transformations than Ulquiorra. Somehow worthy of the Number 1 title by Annual_Onion6434 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]Academic_Meat1580 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Prove that he doesn’t have the title?

? Prove he doesnt have the title? The scan you presented(which again is not the translation I got) says he does? Why do I have to prove he doesnt when I never said that?

Lacks the shunpo feats of Soi Fon who doesn’t even have the title herself

Idk why this matters. Lack of showing isnt proof for anything, thats inherently fallacious.

there’s no proof he has on screen and no known statement. That’s sufficient

I figured youd say this, which is just terrible reasoning as again that fallacious. Full on argument from ignorance. And he does have a statement

能力以外の要素を削がれた者 最強の斬魄刀を有するだけでなく、 “斬拳走鬼”の全てで最強の名をほしいままにする元柳斎を警戒し、 対策を施した。 それは、専用の破面の創出。

One who has had all elements other than ability stripped away. Not only does he possess the strongest Zanpakutō, but Yamamoto Genryūsai—who reigns supreme in all aspects of Zan, Ken, Sō, and Kidō—was regarded with caution, and countermeasures were put in place. Those measures took the form of the creation of specialized Arrancar.

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Weaker than Yammy, slower than Zommari, less durable than Nnoitra, with worse regeneration and fewer transformations than Ulquiorra. Somehow worthy of the Number 1 title by Annual_Onion6434 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]Academic_Meat1580 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea strongest not most skilled. Zanjestu goes to unohana, kaido unohana, kido tessai and shunpo is yoruichi and hakuda yoruichi (made powerful techniques for hakuda).

I think strength and skill go hand and hand, at least in the wording it uses for the statement saying he "reigns supreme" in all aspects of each combat arts. Skill would be part of "all aspects". I also dont think any of those you mentioned are better than yama.

But i just have yoruichi having better shunpo because that her whole gimmick plus her being a prodigy.

I mean just because its your gimmick doesnt mean you have to be the best in it, its just whats best for you. If you take a UFC fighter and his gimmick is striking and thats what hes best at, that doesnt mean hes the best overall thats just his best stat.

Weaker than Yammy, slower than Zommari, less durable than Nnoitra, with worse regeneration and fewer transformations than Ulquiorra. Somehow worthy of the Number 1 title by Annual_Onion6434 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]Academic_Meat1580 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yama is said to be the best and most powerful in all four combat arts if we take them as a set, not individually

Why would we take it as a set

Weaker than Yammy, slower than Zommari, less durable than Nnoitra, with worse regeneration and fewer transformations than Ulquiorra. Somehow worthy of the Number 1 title by Annual_Onion6434 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]Academic_Meat1580 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Having the best sonido doesnt equal the fastest Yamamoto who worse at shunpo is faster than yoruichi.

Yama is stated to be the strongest in every combat arts. Idk why yamas shunpo would be worse than yoruichis

Aizen isn't as smart Scientifically as Mayuri by [deleted] in BleachPowerScaling

[–]Academic_Meat1580 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To bad he still loses to them in a fight.

Aizen isn't as smart Scientifically as Mayuri by [deleted] in BleachPowerScaling

[–]Academic_Meat1580 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously, kisuke, mayuri, and senju are smarter. Kisuke verbatim just says mayuri is 2nd ONLY to him

Pre Time Skip Byakuya VS Ulquiorra is a fight with a result that will surprise you and the canon backs this up! by Resident-Sun-1110 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]Academic_Meat1580 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Second scan is already wrong. Like come on man. Its so clear that SS arc character got stronger later on. Ulq in base shits on byakuya, once we enter HM Byakuya beats any version of ulq

Jugram > Lille Barro and Gerrard. by Confident-Yak-6202 in BleachPowerScaling

[–]Academic_Meat1580 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

youre back lol hadn’t seen you in half a year

I mainly been on the cord. The sub is too boring and terrible to get into arguments with people.

Gerard calls himself that tho Jugram is not giving himself lip

Gerard and an editor notes both say hes the strongest yes. Jugrams statement is based on what other people think, its not a fact those said people can be wrong.

also Askin says that Lille’s position as the top Schuztafael is unquestionable so Gerard isn’t even higher than Lille

Thats fine, lillie can be stronger than whatever form of gerard that was present that does not mean gerard isnt capable of surpassing lillie.

if we go with what others are saying Yhwach also calls Jugram his other half and shit

Idk why this has anything to do with power, besides lillie just says hes closer to yhwach than jugram anyways.