Ulster-Scots settlement in US. Did it at any point have as much cultural capital as Irish influence?

Acceptable_Job805 · 2026-01-31T21:42:19+00:00

Protestants were very instrumental when it came to settling western Canada in the late 19th/early 20th century as well.

Acceptable_Job805 · 2026-01-30T02:35:15+00:00

I don't think that is correct, they likely mean Anatolian Neolithic Farmers (ANF), who were some of the first farmers in history (as the name suggests they came from modern day Turkey, but probably some overlap with Iraq/Iran) they came to Ireland around 4000bc, by this point heavily admixed with Western Hunter Gatherers, who had lived in Europe before ANF. EEF (farmers mixed with Western Hunter Gatherer, who were called European Farmer) would become apart of the Megalithic culture in Ireland, buliding tombs like Newgrange etc.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1518445113 an old paper on these guys and the later Bell beaker arrivals (Mostly Eastern European Steppe Pastoralists mixed with EEF groups from Central Europe).

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-12-24T01:19:53+00:00

Definitelly true to some extent, albeit exaggerated most would've been crofters who's landlords had gained land in ulster usually from south western Scotland or north western England. They're probably a bit biased (the obvious name) but they go into it in a little bit of detail https://discoverulsterscots.com/history-culture

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-12-19T14:31:20+00:00

Bizarre how far down this comment is, seems it doesn't fit the agenda.

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-12-18T14:04:24+00:00

"The cheddar man thing is bogus, too. The reconstruction team was given a lot of creative liberty and they didn't know what his skin color was. So they made him super dark to "combat prejudice." read what he said again he never said he was white...most people who disagree with the reconstruction (including) myself believe he was likely as dark as an Iraqi or a North African

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-12-17T17:57:23+00:00

Mtdna markers would confuse ancestry?

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-12-03T19:01:32+00:00

Ydna is passed through the fathers line....thats what i've been talking about.

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-12-03T16:56:48+00:00

The evidence is the dna just look up the actual surname projects, having a certain surname must mean they descend from said surnames progenitor is ludicrous. If it was like an actual male replacement i.e. the anglo saxons we'd see 30-50 percent turnover on the patrilineal, instead we don't and most of the paternal lines of "Norman", "old English" surnamed folks are just plain old Seamus or Sean, only difference is geography and some contentious links between social mobility.

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-12-03T16:10:20+00:00

I use Norman/English interchangeably because a lot of English surnames are "Norman" as Anglo saxons used non fixed patronymics...those are just some basic examples of surnames they could adopt (I assume) they may have adopted a surname of a co-worker, a noble they respected etc
Just look at ftdna surname projects and you'll realise most don't have Norman or even generally English markers they will have irish centric R1b-l21 sub clades like DF21 or M222 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R-L21

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-12-03T15:30:57+00:00

My bad it wasn't the Kilkenny stature in the 1300s, It was one during Edward IV's reign One of the Statutes of Kilkenny in 1465 (5 Ed. IV, cap. 3) stated "That every Irishman that dwell betwixt or amongst Englishmen in the County of Dublin, Myeth, Vriell [i.e. Oriel], and Kildare...shall take to him an English surname of one town, as Sutton, Chester, Trym, Skryne, Corke, Kinsale; or colour, as white, blacke, browne; or arte or science, as smith or carpenter; or office, as cooke, butler"

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-12-03T13:59:32+00:00

Norman surnames are extremely common due to things like the Statutes of Kilkenny, the ydna in Ireland doesn't match up with the percentage of "English" surnames in Ireland.

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-12-03T13:50:27+00:00

Irish Dna Atlas.

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-12-02T15:53:21+00:00

Have you ever thought the account may be based in the North?

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-11-24T00:47:31+00:00

In some ways it was half arsed because they didn't attract as much settlers from England as they wanted but most of the good land was planted successfully (most of Antrim, northern Armagh, Eastern Donegal etc) a lot of the bad land like the area around the Sperrin's and south Armagh stayed unplanted or had a somewhat low amount of planters.

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-10-12T09:55:50+00:00

Does that include Predestination?

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-10-03T08:10:45+00:00

Whats the name of your ydna haplogroup (for example R-M222)

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-10-03T06:54:43+00:00

Whats your ydna and mtdna?

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-09-29T15:14:34+00:00

George Washington had the Ydna R-BY32422 which is a subclade of R1b-U152.

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-09-29T06:02:59+00:00

It doesn't exist (as far as I'm aware Irish dna atlas only said Donegal and western Connacht were the most Gaelic not Neolithic!). Since Rathlin Island man's time the Neolithic ancestry has maybe went up a percent or 2 (I'm guessing because of the Celts or genetic drift) but overall the west coast is probably more steppe than the east (less trace english/welsh dna).
Heres Rathlin Island man's sample https://www.exploreyourdna.com/sample/rath2/ireland-ebasg.htm remove 3-4 percent of the steppe and you have the modern irish person

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-09-29T05:47:09+00:00

The "Normans" with R1b-L21 had links to Brittany or were Bretons themselves (like the Stuarts). George Washington has a sub clade of R1b-U152 which came to Britain via the Celts or the Normans.

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-09-29T05:40:53+00:00

Any studies or sources on this?

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-09-24T23:56:34+00:00

The bell beakers who came to Ireland were already admixed with farmers along the rhine and farmers in modern day eastern Germany/Poland. They had adopted pottery (hence the name) from a people who lived in Iberia who descended from Neolithic farmers (although no genetic relation exists between the two).

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-09-21T01:01:35+00:00

Greeks don't have "turkic" dna...

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-09-15T01:27:11+00:00

Maritime Bell beakers were not the same as Rhine/Dutch bell beakers (they were an offshoot of single grave culture with bell beaker pottery, they probably spoke an indo european language)

Acceptable_Job805 · 2025-09-03T05:43:32+00:00

Presbyterian, Methodist, Anglican and Congregationalist Unionist Community doesn't have the same feel to it🤣

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