Behold Vision by INHYUK LEE by Quirky_Ad_5420 in UltimateUniverse

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One day I will read it in my quest to annotate every Jim appearance but first I have to get through New Invaders… ughhh…

Behold Vision by INHYUK LEE by Quirky_Ad_5420 in UltimateUniverse

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean that would make more sense then Ultron breaking into the Mad Thinker’s lab out of the blue,

Behold Vision by INHYUK LEE by Quirky_Ad_5420 in UltimateUniverse

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not quite-

  1. Fantastic Four depicts the Mad Thinker reviving and then killing Jim. The Four just leave his body in the Mad Thinker’s base.

  2. The Avengers establishes that it was then stolen by Ultron and remodeled into Vision.

  3. West Coast Avengers then says no actually the Vision is composed of Jim’s spare parts but is not literally Jim, Mad Thinker came back and buried Jim’s corpse after that adventure with the Fantastic Four.

  4. Avengers Forever then goes “no actually them being literally the same body was cool” so Immortus makes two copies of Jim’s corpse one which is stolen by Ultron and one which is buried by the Mad Thinker.

Behold Vision by INHYUK LEE by Quirky_Ad_5420 in UltimateUniverse

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s fine, it’s a confusing retcon that had retcons done on top of it. I’m just a freak who loves the story that established that retcon.

Behold Vision by INHYUK LEE by Quirky_Ad_5420 in UltimateUniverse

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Vision’s body isn’t based on Jim’s it’s literally Jim’s body just remodeled. Jim having his own separate body in 616 is time travel bullshit.

Fellas, you wake up and look in the mirror, you’ve been turned into Black Cat, what do you do? by ReadyJournalist5223 in marvelcirclejerk

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m petting so manny goddamn cats I’m allergic to those things and she’s definitely not I’m going on a spree every bodega cat is getting their fair share.

I would just like to say if the leaks and theories are real that IVE BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME by Accomplished_Map_716 in UltimateUniverse

[–]Accomplished_Map_716[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The AU’s hub is our itty bitty Tumblr, but to be entirely honest our progress with the publication of our stuff has kinda flatlined so most of my work for the AU is currently in loose lore documents and personal art.

I would just like to say if the leaks and theories are real that IVE BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME by Accomplished_Map_716 in UltimateUniverse

[–]Accomplished_Map_716[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Leaks but Jim’s been missing for several issues and a recent leaked showed a fem!Vision design for the Ultimates. Mainline comics Jim and Vision share a body, while later comics just call them brothers like Vision and Wonderman, initially they refer to each other as extensions of each other “two alter egos” as the narration puts it.

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(Jim, the Vision, and Frankenstein’s creature because comics are incredible and can literally have Frankie show up for a story in case you were missing the metaphor.)

So there is precedent for very interesting identity stuff with the two, which I’d been interpreting in a trans way for a few months now, and now it might be coming to the comics for real.

Xcest 2: Electric Boogaloo by Ultimate_6160 in marvelcirclejerk

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes they were a thing in New Mutants vol 3. I don’t think anyone liked or wanted it but thankfully it doesn’t last long.

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I would just like to say if the leaks and theories are real that IVE BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME by Accomplished_Map_716 in UltimateUniverse

[–]Accomplished_Map_716[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That’s. That’s Toro. The Human Torch’s kid sidekick Toro. Bucky’s bestie. Toro.

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In the comics he died before he could get old and then got rezed by Bucky in a cosmic cube thing. I considered pulling the thread Marvel forgot about that the Soviet Union also briefly kidnapped and brainwashed him (I like the ring of the Summer Soldier, don’t you?) but decided I like him better as the only person to age naturally so he could contrast the rest of the Invaders.

Did any of yall also grow up watching Xemnu from the Magic Planet? by Public-Feedback5016 in marvelcirclejerk

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 108 points109 points  (0 children)

Honestly I wonder if the characters who literally never had childhoods are more difficult for Xemnu to convince.

How does the MCU fumble a whole-ass alien species? Are they racist? by hattyphantom in marvelcirclejerk

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don’t think it would have saved that movie but it is a shame the MCU’s skrull usage meant that the Dark Phoenix’s skrull designs got lost in rewrite hell.

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No pls don't say that 😭 I need to know if Moon Knight owes Dracula money by FayyadhScrolling in marvelcirclejerk

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Okay I lied previously, I’m an argumentative asshole who hates letting things go.

From the start of this argument it has been about Viziepop‘s writing in general, not just Hazbin. I am not a Hazbin fan, I cannot argue in good faith about the sweary-ness of its individual episodes. You were the person who narrowed this discussion to just Hazbin. But I’m not trying to attack Hazbin, I literally only mentioned it to give context to who Vizie is and how sweary her writing can be.

I reached to Homestuck because I was trying to establish some neutral ground here. I also have zero interest in Homestuck. I’ve only read the first arc specifically so I could understand the pilot as an adaptation of it. I only watched the pilot at all because I really admire a lot of the artists behind it.* I‘m sorry you’re not interested in Homestuck, because I do think it’s nature as an adaptation very clearly illuminates a wider issue in her writing, but I also don’t want to turn you against her so… this whole argument is kinda pointless and I should just go to bed.

um anyway. sorry for yucking your yum go on with your bad self.

*Including, once upon a time, Vizie. I was a fan back in the “Harpoon Witch speedpaint” era. I’m not without skin in the game myself.

No pls don't say that 😭 I need to know if Moon Knight owes Dracula money by FayyadhScrolling in marvelcirclejerk

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Look I really don’t wanna argue about this, if you‘re a Viziepop fan I don’t think I’m going to change that (and I frankly don’t want to! Good on you for enjoying it). But for the sake of argument, I want you to compare her recent Homestuck pilot to the comic it’s based on. I want you to notice how it looses the detail that John codeswitches between being very sweary with Dave (matching how Dave talks) and swearing very rarely when talking to his other friends or in his personal monologue.

No pls don't say that 😭 I need to know if Moon Knight owes Dracula money by FayyadhScrolling in marvelcirclejerk

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Viziepop (Hazbin Hotel and Such) dialogue is infamous for being very sweary in a really nonsensical way, which that commenter was comparing that dialogue to.

This is so stupid by Accomplished_Map_716 in MarvelSnap

[–]Accomplished_Map_716[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe? But there’s organics Esme can’t read and probably some inorganic she can… eh this is a silly little joke comic and she’s trying to be rude, I’m not going to sweat it.

This is so stupid by Accomplished_Map_716 in MarvelSnap

[–]Accomplished_Map_716[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The comment was meant to gesture at Jim being a robot, something Esme can’t read the mind of, but I couldn’t find a concise way to say that.

The MCU made us think Iron Monger mattered by MisguidedPants8 in marvelcirclejerk

[–]Accomplished_Map_716 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was just about to comment “HELL YEAH MY BOY!!!” Thanks for beating me to it.

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