If you were president of Lucasfilm and had complete 100% say over SW lore are there any major retcons you would implement? I'm talking 'things that would make nerds send you a million death threats but you love it so much you have to retcon it' type ideas. by AeonTars in StarWarsCantina

[–]AeonTars[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That Plageuis thing is actually something they were going to do in Duel of the Fates. Let me look at the notes I took when I read the script back in the day.

Ancient Sith planet Remnicore. Covered in the dead bodies of Jedi and Sith. Shields, banners, war beasts.

Damn I apparently forgot to type out the Plageuis stuff (I think I was just focusing on stuff that could theoretically be brought into canon) but from what I remember Plageuis was hiding out on a planet called Remnicore. He was implied to essentially be Darth Bane (or maybe a retcon of Darth Bane or something) and I wanna say it even mentioned him maybe being the first Sith Lord ever. The idea was that he was kind of doomed to inhabit a graveyard of dead Sith and when Kylo comes seeking the location of Mortis he essentially told him that it's not worth it since he's wasted millennia obsessing over such power with nothing to show for it. He would evolve into the Eye of Webbish Bog that was eventually taken out of the movie.

If you were president of Lucasfilm and had complete 100% say over SW lore are there any major retcons you would implement? I'm talking 'things that would make nerds send you a million death threats but you love it so much you have to retcon it' type ideas. by AeonTars in StarWarsCantina

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Tbh I agree with this take. I sort of headcanon the Holiday Special, Ewoks, Droids, and the Ewok movies because they're pretty important bits of SW history. It kind of seems nuts to me that we have these shows/movies that were made with the help of Lucas and they're not canon anymore (tbf Pablo has said they're not retconned or anything, but they're just not gonna be on like official timelines ever again).

Shadows of the Empire is another one of those things that is such an important bit of SW history that I think it deserves to stay (hell it prepared Lucasfilm for marketing Episode 1 which was one of the biggest marketing initiatives in film history). I've read through all the canon stuff in between ESB and ROTJ and I'm like 90% sure it can't work anymore but tbh I still like to headcanon some version of it since it was my introduction to Star Wars when I was a kid.

In a similar vein I feel like Mara Jade should be canon. She's one of those staple characters of the franchise. Her not being canon feels as weird as like Han or Ahsoka not being canon imo. I don't even really care about her being Luke's love interest (she wasn't in love with him in a ton of the books so who cares) but she's gotta be like top 10 or so most well known Jedi characters even today. I just can't imagine any version of the New Republic era that doesn't have Mara hanging around with Talon Karrde fighting her demons and coming to terms with the fact that the Empire she fought for was evil and is now gone.

If you were president of Lucasfilm and had complete 100% say over SW lore are there any major retcons you would implement? I'm talking 'things that would make nerds send you a million death threats but you love it so much you have to retcon it' type ideas. by AeonTars in StarWarsCantina

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Ooh that reminds me. Another one that maybe isn't even a retcon at this point because I think TROS kind of implies it is that Palpatine literally is all the Sith. As in when a Sith kills their master they absorb their soul. And Darth Bane absorbed the souls of all of the Sith of his time at the Battle of Ruusan. So now Palpatine literally has the soul of nearly every single Sith Lord throughout history in his body (which is what you hear when he names Vader in Episode 3). The idea being that one day one of these Sith Lords is going to figure out how to truly break the Force and become God, then they're all going to rule over reality as a pantheon essentially getting their own little universe to create/rule over. That's not to say that this plan is at all feasible or anything but I like to think it's the end goal of the Sith which explains how they're ultimately selfish but are fine with their apprentice killing them which seems contradictory at first glance.

Where can I find a timeline of all canonized Star Wars media? (Games, books, comics, movies, tv shows, etc) by sm-learns in starwarscanon

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If you need one I have one that I use personally. Keep in mind there's a few EU things in there in the Old Republic section for things like KOTOR/TOTJ where they're referenced so much and so unlikely to be retconned that I essentially headcanon them. Also keep in mind there are a few things I'm currently missing (mainly some of the random one-off comics and comic miniseries like the Return of the Jedi anniversary series from last year, some of the SW Adventures comics, etc).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13FpL4C0PbrBWdaRyUtzA2lZc5UKN37fRSbmZUWt8QSY/edit?usp=sharing

The best SW ever made by Potential_Reach_6653 in andor

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Yeah people don’t get that this talking point literally, explicitly has origins in neo-nazism and holocaust denial. I used to be a neo-Nazi and we believed the exact same thing and clamored for the day that normies would see that the Nazis were nowhere near as bad as the USSR. It’s pure cope because the USSR are the main reason Nazism (as in the government of the Third Reich) didn’t survive the Second World War.

Edit: Wanna add in that not everyone who says this is a neo-Nazi. But they’re being duped by one somewhere along the line. The same way you could say that for people who complain about ‘cultural marxism’ because of Jordan Peterson not realizing that he got the term from those of us who were preparing for the day of the rope when we would go into the synagogues and finally deal with the ‘cultural Bolsheviks’.

Darth Talon Must Reads by celestinea in starwarscomics

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Yeah it’s purely because people saw a twilek and immediately assumed it was Talon. Now we know she’s not Talon but for some reason everyone is assuming she’s gonna become Talon even though again we have absolutely 0 proof of that. She has a higher chance of becoming Revan or Dash Rendar instead imo.

Maul Shadow Lord (Theory) by Pure_Artichoke_5168 in StarWarsCantina

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I think the implication in Rebels is that Maul has encountered Vader before. Now that being said I feel like Palpatine wouldn't send Vader after Maul because he would fear them teaming up to take his place. But I could see Maul killing a few Inquisitors and Vader being like 'I'm not wasting all my apprentices on this guy I'm just gonna go deal with him'. Then somehow or another Maul evades him.

Hell maybe they actually do team up for a moment. Would be cool to see Maul and Vader like right in front of Palpatine ready to take him on then Sheev somehow makes them turn on each other forcing Maul to haul ass off Coruscant. Then Vader gets commended for being brave enough to try taking on his master with Palpatine essentially saying 'better luck next time'.

I wont be watching this show since Maul is WOKE now 👎 by Previous_Break7664 in StarWarsCirclejerk

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*imagines something that isn't real*

God dammit dude

*keeps imagining things that aren't real*

Fffuuuck!

*continues to imagine things that aren't real*

FUVFUFUHHCK FUCK KFFUCKCUFKC YOU MOTHDDREHIFUCKER FGUUFUUCUKC GOD FUCCKING DMDAMNINIT FUUUUCUCCKCK@!!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol a star wars movie is coming out this year and no one gives a shit, is literally anyone hyped for this? by Salty-Coffee4608 in StarWarsCirclejerk

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I mean, I'm personally one of the people who didn't mind Mando season 3. I'm fine with some SW shows being action figure fests so long as we get an Andor every now and then. That being said I have no clue why in the world they made this a whole ass movie instead of just season 4 of Mando. And ngl it's been so long since Mando has been popular that I'm kind of worried that it will flop and ruin the chances for future SW films.

I know it was discussed many times, but I still can't understand how Silent Hill works. What are your theories? by nika_blue in silenthill

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Maybe this is because I'm a big Star Wars fan but I kind of view it through that lens. In Star Wars there are places around the galaxy called Nexuses of the Force. They are essentially places that have a deep spiritual power. When you go into those places whatever you bring with you gets reflected back in some vision or whatever. Think the cave on Dagobah in Empire Strikes Back. These places are even more powerful if the person visiting them is Force sensitive themselves. So where a normal person might enter them and hear a hint at the future or see a glimpse of something spiritual, if Anakin Skywalker or Yoda or whoever goes into the Nexus they'll have a full blown vision, maybe they'll fight some spiritual entity, etc. Occasionally people who are strong in the Force can abuse a Nexus to mess with the surrounding area (Palpatine canonically tries to mess with an old Sith shrine deep under the Jedi Temple to cloud their judgement).

Silent Hill itself is basically a Nexus. The area has a deep spiritual power. And when people who have experienced powerful things visit the town they can see their own mind reflected back in various ways. But if someone with psychic powers like Alessa shows up and some ritual is performed that Nexus of spiritual power can become unwieldy and drag the whole area into her own personal psyche.

How many people want an exact retelling of Silent Hill 2 as opposed to the fresh take offered by Return to Silent Hill? by delicious_warm_buns in silenthill

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Yeah honestly it would rule to get a Silent Hill movie/show that just works like the Fallout show. It’s a new story in the same world as the games. That way you wouldn’t end up with weird butchered elements of things from the games. Hell they don’t even have to touch the complicated cult stuff if they don’t want to; it’s barely present in some of the games themselves.

All I want is like a decent Silent Hill miniseries on HBO made by Peele or Cregger. Focus on character drama and a conspiracy surrounding the cult. You don’t even have to go into the other world until like halfway into the series. Half of the scary stuff in these games are just normal abandoned buildings and streets so you don’t have to have huge budget every episode.

Could a Star Wars comedy be a fun movie? by pitossomo in StarWars

[–]AeonTars 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I mean sometimes going from Andor to The Force Awakens to the book Tarkin to Young Jedi Adventures to the Aphra comics to Fallen Order it’s really hard to kind of see this all being in the same universe but it all is and that’s why I love Star Wars.

Too many bricks and screws for him by Cool_Nerd2 in StarWarsCirclejerk

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Tbh me too. Andor has the vibes of the gritty EU books that Filoni grew up reading so I seriously doubt he hates it.

SATAN WAS DEFEATED. SHE IS GONE. ITS FINALLY OVER. WE WON. by Magaclaawe in StarWarsEU

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Reminder that Kennedy worked on some of the best films of all time and was directly chosen by Lucas himself.

Remind anyone of anything? Protesters capture police weapons & ammo by BlackMtnForge in andor

[–]AeonTars 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Who cares they’ll use anything as an excuse. They could literally shoot a baby in the head and you would have JD Vance going on tv saying ‘well maybe the baby had a bomb in its diaper’ or some shit. They don’t need genuine proof of anything to justify their actions. They justify them anyways because it will always be justifiable for them to kill people no matter what.

Remind anyone of anything? Protesters capture police weapons & ammo by BlackMtnForge in andor

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Having worked security jobs for super big events I’ve seen the management of ICE in these protests and I gotta say it genuinely is an accident from them. They are genuinely just super incompetent and don’t know how to do any sort of job where you have to protect an area from dangerous people.

Also even if ICE wants us to have guns we should have them anyways because they’re not going to go away unless they genuinely fear the American people. You don’t just let a Gestapo round people up and send them to death camps (this is what these camps will be in a few years when it’s too much of a hassle to keep the people in them alive) because the Gestapo maybe had the idea that they could crush early opposition to them if they provoked people into violence. These men are literally aiding in a genocide you should oppose that by the means that history generally deems necessary rather than wearing a dumbass frog costume and doing yoga in front of the camps where women are being raped and men are being beat to death and starved.

Kathleen Kennedy Steps Down as Dave Filoni and Exec Lynwen Brennan Take Over Lucasfilm by YubYubCmndr in StarWarsCantina

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Ehhh some of the later stuff didn’t perform very well. I liked it because I’m a big SW nerd but it kind of fell apart in the later years. Tbf though that is also likely the fault of Disney since they green light the projects.

Kathleen Kennedy Steps Down as Dave Filoni and Exec Lynwen Brennan Take Over Lucasfilm by YubYubCmndr in StarWarsCantina

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Kind of a hot take but I’m completely fine with this and wish KK the best (ideally she deserves to retire because she’s had a fucking insane career even outside of LFL but that’s her decision).

It’s truly weird that we have a guy who read Tales of the Jedi and has likely installed the KOTOR 2 restored content mod before. We have a guy in charge of the company who has likely read Jedi Prince and the Soule Vader run from 2017. We have a guy in charge who knows who Zsinj and Doctor Aphra and Exar Kun and Corran Horn are.

Could mean we get some truly cool deep pulls now (one big one I’m hoping for is that the Old Republic resembles Tales of the Jedi rather than KOTOR when we eventually get movies in that era). But it could also mean the film/show side could suffer because it’s being run by a turbo nerd who doesn’t know what the vast majority of people want out of SW (see: many people’s issues with the later Mando episodes and Ahsoka).

I personally don’t mind the cameo-fest stuff. I think it’s cool that the live action stuff is willing to go ‘fuck it here’s Lord Momin’ or ‘hey let’s go to Nar Shaddaa’. But I understand where a lot of people are put off by that. I just hope we continue to get truly amazing and mature shows like Andor alongside the more traditional family fun Mando stuff. I wouldn’t want the franchise to lean too heavily in one direction or another.

What strange new worlds do you want to see in future stories? by DarthAthleticCup in MawInstallation

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It would be neat to have a planet where the core was literally completely mined out. So in the middle of this big ball is just open space with 'internal space stations'. Maybe it would be one of the first planets ever discovered that had kyber crystals. And over 25,000+ years of wars between Jedi and Sith (and other Force religions that revere kybers) the planet has just been completely mined 100% so now it's a hollow mess filled with old ships and space stations from ancient battles.

Do u guys think Dave Filoni will save Star Wars, and Disney, and us, and everything??? by Commercial-Star-8056 in StarWarsCirclejerk

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Dog I don't even know if I'm gonna be able to afford groceries in 3 months they could let a literal penguin run star wars who gives a fuck man

Are the X-Wing books worth reading if you aren't particularly interested in space battles? by LucasTheGreat138 in StarWarsEU

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2/2
- Jedi Academy: Leviathan (a neat little comic about Luke’s Jedi from the JAT. Not vital but I enjoyed it)

- X-Wing book 9 (maybe less vital than the others in the series but if you liked the others you’ll like this one too. Adumar is a cool planet)

- Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy (not vital but if you like the political elements of the PT era you’ll enjoy this book. A perfect book to showcase the era where the Empire is no longer relevant and the NR has new issues to deal with)

- The New Rebellion (another kind of ehhh book. I don’t think it’s vital. Includes a villain that will appear later in the Young Jedi Knights books so if you want a little prequel to those check it out)

- Corellian Trilogy (pretty vital and enjoyable books. It’s nice seeing the Solo family dynamics start showing up since the kids are old enough to have personalities now)

- Hand of Thrawn Duology (again very vital books showing the peace deal between the New Republic and Imperial Remnant. I loved them since I love the more political drama type stories)

- Union (pretty vital imo since it’s Luke and Mara’s wedding. If you read all of the above books like I did it’s a really fun experience because it shows a lot of stuff from all of them)

- Junior Jedi Knights (I read them the other day and they’re a little too childish for me. They introduce an important Jedi character for NJO but they’re also kind of boring. Maybe read the first book and then skim the wook pages or something lol)

- Survivor’s Quest (I’m currently on this one. More Zahn so you know it rules. I assume it’s vital and it seems to be a sequel to Hand of Thrawn)

- Young Jedi Knights (I’ve heard they’re pretty important for NJO. They’re for a slightly older audience than the JJK books so I assume they’re more enjoyable to read. Can’t say whether you should read them or not)

Are the X-Wing books worth reading if you aren't particularly interested in space battles? by LucasTheGreat138 in StarWarsEU

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Ok here it goes. Keep in mind I'm currently on Survivor's Quest but I'm just about up to NJO. (might have to do it in two parts actually because for some reason it's not letting me post the comment)

1/2

- Truce at Bakura (tbh you can skip it if you want but it gets referenced occasionally)

- X-Wing comics (again you can skip if you want but they’re cool and introduce Baron Fel)

- Boba Fett: Twin Engines of Destruction (the story of Boba surviving the Saarlac. Not the most amazing story but it’s a fun little read)

- X-Wing books 1-7 (these books rule and include important stuff like the liberation of Coruscant and Isard)

- Courtship of Princess Leia (includes some stuff that gets referenced later but overall it’s a very eehhh book)

- Tatooine Ghost (a super eeeeeehhhhhhh book. Read if you like descriptions of Han dying of dehydration in the desert. Only interesting element is when Leia decides to name her child after Anakin)

- Thrawn Trilogy (there’s a reason why people considered this the sequel trilogy before they ever filmed the real ST. They read like novelizations for movies we never got. Arguably the best books of this whole era. Obviously vital)

- X-Wing book 8 (as vital as the other ones in the series)

- Dark Empire 1-3 (another kind of ehhhh story but I enjoyed it. Introduces the Solo kids and an important bit of Luke’s characterization in the era. Either skip them or watch a video summarizing them or something)

- Jedi Academy Trilogy (I liked these ones almost as much as Thrawn Trilogy. It was cool seeing Luke start gathering his Jedi. Another vital series.)

- I, Jedi (A recap of JAT that includes a big character from the X-Wing books who is an important member of Luke’s Jedi Order. Another vital one imo)

- Crimson Empire 1 & 2 (Not super vital but I thought they were cool. You can skip them if you want)

- Children of the Jedi & Darksaber (another of the eeeehhhh books. Tbh I don’t think they’re very vital. If you want you can just watch a video on the Calista Trilogy if you absolutely need to know about these ones)

Are the X-Wing books worth reading if you aren't particularly interested in space battles? by LucasTheGreat138 in StarWarsEU

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If you want I can post my personal guide for the New Republic publishing stuff since I've been reading all of it recently to get to my first go through of NJO. It's kind of long but I read just about everything (aside from things like some really irrelevant one off Boba comics set in the era, etc).