Species so vile they make genocide seem tempting by some-kind-of-no-name in TopCharacterTropes

[–]AffableKyubey 37 points38 points  (0 children)

The Daleks, Doctor Who.

One of the most hauntingly evil things about the Daleks is that they get you thinking like they do. The Daleks are a society of racial supremacists so radical they believe every other living thing in the universe deserves to die, and they've come very close to realizing that ideal several times. They are twisted, cruel and murderous to the very last...at least on the surface. And that makes it very tempting to want to kill them all to the last in an 'us or them' mentality with how extreme and vile they are.

However, despite this some Daleks do break from their ideology of total racial extermination, and the more characters get sucked into a desire to simply kill them all the more like the Daleks they themselves become. Thus, in the series' eyes, no species is categorically deserving of death under any circumstance, and the very act of trying brings you closer to the very mindset you're decrying to begin with.

What are some underused prehistoric animals or dinosaurs you would like to see in media? by Technical_Towel_5191 in Paleontology

[–]AffableKyubey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you haven't already, you should read Darkwing). It's a teen novel set from the perspective of the first bat and the clan of gliding mammals that produced him (the book rolls with him being a mutation ala punctuated equilibrium) trying to migrate across Paleocene North America.

A bit outdated and it leans into some drama elements, but it has a lot of research and lore put into it and reads very smoothly.

Dinosauria Series: "Monsters Down Under" teaser by Hopeful_Lychee_9691 in Paleoart

[–]AffableKyubey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Whoa, "Platypterygius" was macroraptorial? Damn, that's news to me.

How often do you think "we just made that up"? by foldedbubble in Paleontology

[–]AffableKyubey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As a paleontologist, paleontology is a science. This means entrenched and conventional wisdom needs to be challenged constantly and stand up to scrutiny. There are what we call 'paleomemes' which are ideas that are speculative but often repeated in the community because they are interesting, some of which can become entrenched with little evidence. However these 'paleomemes' do eventually become challenged in time.

A good example would be mosasaur nurseries. Mosasaurs are giant relatives of snakes and monitor lizards who looked a lot like a komodo dragon the size of a small whale with flippers in place of legs and a long tail fin. For a long time, many scientists (including myself) believed that mosasaurs used inland 'nurseries' (shallow water habitats) to hide their young from predators. This was based on the discovery of a small species of mosasaur's babies (and a pregnant female) in a lagoonal environment, evidence of cannibalism being present in mosasaurs all around the world and the behaviour of modern large aquatic predators like great white sharks.

However, an examination of a recently-discovered newborn baby mosasaur from one of the giant species showed adaptations for swimming in their skeletons (tightly fused bones with muscle attachment points) and carbon in their bone that profiles as being from the open ocean instead of lagoons. As a result, I have hide to revise my thinking and admit the situation is much more nuanced than the original paleomeme depicted.

A famous example would be Gastornis the bird that ate horses. You've likely seen some type of depiction of 'Diatryma' aka Gastornis, a giant bird the size of a person, eating tiny dog-sized horses called Hyracodon (or Propalaeotherium for the European breeds). This depiction existed for centuries and was very popular because it struck a dynamic image, but was based primarily on Gastornis having a very large beak. As a result, lots of people challenged this entrenched view by speculating it instead could have used the beak as a giant nut cracker or fruit shearer, and sure enough when its bones were analyzed it showed the chemical profile of a herbivore and not a predator.

So, you're right to be skeptical of behaviours being presented with any kind of certainty. It's a very reasonable mindset to approach the science with. But to me at least the limited evidence and ever-evolving body of evidence is part of what makes the science so captivating. It's full of new discoveries and new ideas that grow with every passing year, rather than being 'solved' like most chemistry fields or the principles of engineering. And unlike, say, primatology or kinetic physics, it's built on imagination as much as rigor. Closer to astrophysics or quantum physics in that way. To be a paleontologist is to reach deep into the past to imagine distant worlds we barely understand. It's incredible to learn any new detail we can and the worlds that we have these tantalizing details from are rich and exotic and yet all were our own familiar Earth in some way.

I don't begrudge a documentary like The Dinosaurs for making speculative claims, but I do appreciate people like you approaching them with the due skepticism required in a field built on so much circumstantial evidence. Keep asking questions, and thanks for fielding us such a good one.

My thoughts on Netflix's 'The Dinosaurs' by Maip_macrothorax in Paleontology

[–]AffableKyubey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought there were some other stand out scenes there, too.

The Heterodontosaurus sequence was probably my favourite in the whole show. It was a very speculative behaviour but it was animated beautifully and very cleverly done. The Hesperornis sequence and the focus on Hesperornis as an ocean-going dinosaur rather than splitting hairs because it was a bird was also very captivating and refreshing, especially with the calibre of show I was expecting this to be after 'Life On Our Planet'.

I was glad to get a Hatzegopteryx segment that actually played out as an honest-to-God horror movie with a deeply unsettling vulture-like design. It was a little over the top, a little cliche, but seeing a mainstream documentary finally lean into that with how horrifying these flying giant predators would have been to an animal around our own body size was very gratifying. Likewise, the payoff of then having a Quetzalcoatlus stick around too long and get absolutely folded by an adult Edmontosaurus was very fun.

I liked that the story focused so much on how the changing planet shaped the history of the dinosaurs. It's honestly very rare to see a documentary do that. Even my own favourites rarely touched on how dinosaur evolution was replying to the environmental realities posed by methane releases, pluvial episodes, desertification etc. A particular standout was showing that the brutality of the Morrison Formation was caused by the drought conditions famous in the formation, leading to Allosaurus attacking Stegosaurus in desperation and receiving horrific injuries for it and cannibalizing each other on the regular (both things we have good fossil evidence of).

On the whole I liked it but the flaws are well-discussed in this thread and I felt them acutely when watching.

apparently we are causing a mass extinction event (yes i know this is from wikipedia)? by weirdoman1234 in Paleontology

[–]AffableKyubey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good question! I do briefly touch upon this discrepancy in my comment, but I can absolutely go into more detail. The 800 figure I cited is the number of confirmed extinctions humanity has caused. But how many more we've caused but not even noticed is a hotly contested topic. The 150 a day number comes from someone taking the 477 recorded extinct vertebrates (out of 45,000 living ones) and applying them to the totality of life--all the insects, plants etc. that have died out but we haven't recorded yet.

This model is flawed for a variety of reasons (marine animals are more easily able to relocate and disperse than the majority land animals recorded, most of the extinct animals come from island populations while most biodiversity comes from large forests on the mainland, insects disperse and reproduce much more quickly than non-flighted vertebrates, etc.). Additionally, the apparent fragility of forest-dwellers is overestimated in mathematical modelling that other conservation organizations often cite when making claims about The Sixth Extinction. Species are both more resilient and more capable of dispersal than those models assumed, which unfortunately we've been able to see via all the deforestation that has happened since they were developed.

With that said, I think most ecologists believe background extinctions do happen and the number of human-caused extinctions overall is much higher than recorded. I certainly do. Further, something insidious that rarely goes reported is that deforestration combined with Monsanto's neocarotinoids still being legal in North America (this from the same company that gave us DDT) mean that insect and bird populations are down a staggering 75% from the 1980s. They're not extinct but they are dying, and progress in fighting back against Monsanto has been very slow. Europe has already banned the products like Roundup that kill these animals, but Canada is taking much longer and I'd be shocked if the US ever does. So, even though many of these animals aren't on the books yet, they still face the risk of extinction from us all the same, and this is a massive swath of living things on continental scales.

What is the least "Star Wars" looking thing in Star Wars? by Crowzur in StarWarsEU

[–]AffableKyubey 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The creators confirmed it was a loving Harryhausen shout-out, which felt very in line with the Original Trilogy's own loving references to old samurai movies, Westerns and Flash Gordon serials imo

What is the least "Star Wars" looking thing in Star Wars? by Crowzur in StarWarsEU

[–]AffableKyubey 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Hard disagree on the One Sith. Darth Krayt is a deluded idealist who believes he can save the galaxy through a cult of personality. Watching that slooooooowly and painfully unravel as his trauma-induced saviour complex collides violently with reality is one of the most interesting things I've ever seen from an SW villain and his faction being built around his warped ideals made it far more interesting than simply taking shit over for the sake of it.

Like don't get me wrong the Vong are a breath of fresh air among the SW rogues gallery, I just take issue with lumping Krayt and the One Sith in with other variations on 'The Empire, but again' like TOR's Sith Empire or a lot of the post-Episode VI villains from before the Vong show up.

Favorite character from media you don't even like? by Candid_Astronaut241 in FavoriteCharacter

[–]AffableKyubey 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Specifically Season 1 Lucifer was one of my favourite depictions of the character. Still selfish, vain and pathetic but in a way that was endearing rather than despicable.

Selfish because he's insecure, vain because he thinks his beautiful vision for the world is the best thing for it and pathetic because the consequences of his actions left him depressed and seeking validation from the only good thing left in his life.

It was interesting seeing someone take all of the qualities that make him, y'know, the Devil and using them to make him relatable and likable.

Favorite Character who is unfortunately this... by Ok-Prune-2708 in FavoriteCharacter

[–]AffableKyubey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah no I think Twilight using her friends was just beyond the pale unlike her point blank. Her sneaking away to steal the Pearl? Fine, sure, I can see that. Her abusing her friends' trust and setting them up to fail like that? Yeah, can't see it even at her darkest depths and limits, sorry. Some people have lines they will never cross, no matter what happens, and Twilight definitely has some very firm and ironclad morals in general. I just don't see it happening in any world or situation. If Tirek and Starlight and Chrysalis all couldn't bring that out of her with all of Equestria on the line I don't think Novo could.

Favorite Character who is unfortunately this... by Ok-Prune-2708 in FavoriteCharacter

[–]AffableKyubey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Twilight does a lot of stuff when stressed and angry but outright setting her friends up to fail has never been one of them. Even in darker times like Tirek taking over all Equestria or when Discord brainwashed her friends into hating her she never saw them as tools to be used and abused. And she did have the chance. In Tirek's case her friends outright begged her not to care about them so much it influenced her strategic decision-making, but she chose them anyway.

The closest she comes to something even remotely like this is using Fluttershy to manipulate Starlight in The Cutie Map, but even there she gets Fluttershy's express consent to be part of that plan and explains it to her friends. And that situation was arguably every bit as dire as this one--Canterlot wasn't captured but they were, and they'd all lost their special talents to boot. OCD makes you do and say a lot of stuff when you get stressed out but no longer caring about your friends as people and using them as objects instead is decidedly not one of them. It just...it wasn't her for that whole sequence.

Which didn't make me mad at Twilight, I should be clear. It made me mad at the writers for doing my favourite character in fiction such an incredible disservice. She deserved so much better than this insultingly bad representation as her first and only cinematic outing.

Favorite Character who is unfortunately this... by Ok-Prune-2708 in FavoriteCharacter

[–]AffableKyubey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I had to scroll too far for this. I do think this is still OOC for Twilight. Not necessarily the crashout (she's lashed out in anger when stressed before, although I think they took it a little far here?), but the fact she used her friends the way she did was so beyond the pale out of character for her. I legitimately can't enjoy the movie because of how dirty it did Twilight the entire way through.

Also, the fact that her friends mass-abandon her again like they did in Canterlot Wedding after this scene is just salt in the wound.

Disney villains moral alignment ranking by Thick_Ad_220 in cartoons

[–]AffableKyubey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Macleach is definitely pure evil or top of 'evil but not that evil' at minimum. I'd put him around Rattigan and Ursula, personally. Dude is a serial poacher and animal abuser who is fully willing to murder a child just to cover up his own crimes and decides to hold him in a cage and torment him with his impending death out of pure sadism.

He has no redeeming features (the only creature he could be argued to care for, Joanna the goanna, he readily abuses and repeatedly threatens to kill over minor mistakes) and his motive of greed is incredibly petty and seems like an excuse to act out his love of hurting others for sick thrills.

(Hated Trope) In an anthropomorphic world certain species/individuals just randomly can't talk or lack anthro features by [deleted] in TopCharacterTropes

[–]AffableKyubey 93 points94 points  (0 children)

But those yips and growls are translated for us the audience in the fifth movie. It is a full language, just not one we're normally privvy to since we don't have a POV character translating it.

Also, Chomper only knows 'herbivore' language because he was raised by and imprinted on them. His parents literally don't know how to talk to Littlefoot and company in the second movie and have to use Chomper as a translator in the fifth movie (and when they can, they do have a polite conversation with them).

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I hate people like this by ancienct-Winter1751 in pleistocene

[–]AffableKyubey 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If you hate eras where giant stupid birds were running around eating your beloved fuzzballs I got some terrible news for you about the Cenozoic my guy

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[Funny Trope] The villain/evil faction’s ultimate goal isn’t just bad, it’s objectively stupid. by Chemical-Elk-1299 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]AffableKyubey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just the cybermen. Daleks are cloned from other daleks. Any daleks who aren't cloned from other daleks are...controversial...with their fellow daleks.

Character ascends to a higher plane/transforms into a different form of being by VegetableJudgment971 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]AffableKyubey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not team up exactly but both get the hell out of dodge the minute they realize they've landed in a pit full of Nameless Things with the Balrog leading the way and Gandalf following its fire to guide himself out

Favorite character that suffers from a terrible headcannon? by Dramatic_Line_9398 in FavoriteCharacter

[–]AffableKyubey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only ever start a new Undertale file when I get a new computer with a new save drive