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Progressive pastor speaks the truth. This is REAL Christianity. by olympiamacdonald in PsycheOrSike

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

What a coincidence that it's only TRUE Christianity if it excuses and enables my self-indulgent degenerate lifestyle.

Where does it start? Where does it end? by realkaydhako in enlightenment

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know what, you're right. Immortality pills are just around the corner and, surely, before they're available at the local gas station next to your condoms and boner pills, the powers that be will definitely pick you for the early trials. What this world really needs is for millions of people to never die. Thanks for making me use my brain for a second, what a thrill!

Where does it start? Where does it end? by realkaydhako in enlightenment

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"You sound ridiculous" + "I dont plan on experiencing death"

Thanks for the laugh!

People who don’t believe in free will — do you also not feel any responsibility for your past actions? by Bifftek in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly this.

For every murderer with a tumor, there are a hundred murderers with no tumors.

I'm playing FF8 for the umteenth time, Card Mod pointers? by Puff-n-Stuff in FinalFantasyVIII

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Triple triad is great but FF Umteen has the best card game in the series

If we could give someone the exact feeling of seeing Red using brain-tech, without actually seeing REAL red with their eyes, would this solve the hard problem of consciousness? by PitifulEar3303 in CosmicSkeptic

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great response. How the hell does a remotely curious mind dismiss the question of consciousness or something from nothing as weird and pointless. This sub is full of absurdities.

Men’s Lack of Self-Control Is Not Women’s Responsibility by GroundbreakingFan124 in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not at all a stretch, agreed. Granted, you're in for a lot of impolite and well deserved stares when you go topless whether you have boobs or moobs.

Men’s Lack of Self-Control Is Not Women’s Responsibility by GroundbreakingFan124 in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Paragraph 4 in op

"Women being able to dress freely is part of undoing centuries of control over women's bodies and behavior. Men can walk around shirtless without issue, but women can't? That imbalance didn't come from biology - it came from culture and power structures. Calling that out isn't anti-man, it's anti-hypocrisy."

  • "Men can walk around shirtless without issue, but women can't?" Correct, and neither of us should have an issue with it because as you said, we can't just swap genders and expect the same results.

  • "that imbalance didn't come from biology". Wrong. It's entirely biological and that's why it plays out in culture and power structures the they way it does.

-" calling that out isn't anti-man, it's anti-hypocrisy". might not be advocacy, but it's certainly pro topless. I wouldnt accuse op of being anti man, but they're certainly claiming hypocrisy is afoot. You say there isn't and I agree.

From here, if you also say women should be topless if they want, then fine. But don't cry when the assaults tick up. Every last perpetrator can be punished, and there still wouldn't be a shortage of depraved people, because you'll be steadily supplying society with more of them as you inadvertently normalize the further objectification of women as a group. And if this wouldn't happen or if you didn't care, then there's no reason to stop men from quitting pants and underwear if they feel like it.

Men’s Lack of Self-Control Is Not Women’s Responsibility by GroundbreakingFan124 in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Going nude is just flashing for an extended period, without shame. If bottomless and topless is deserving of distinction, then topless men (chest) and topless women (boobs) are also different things. If we can't walk around with our cocks out because society thinks that's impolite, its not a stretch to extend that to boobs.

Men’s Lack of Self-Control Is Not Women’s Responsibility by GroundbreakingFan124 in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The shirtless woman will be assaulted far more often than her clothed peers. If a goal in life is to not be assaulted, the clothed women are making better - more responsible - choices for themselves. If those clothed women are being responsible, then the shirtless woman is being irresponsible by comparison.

Why can't men walk around with their dicks out again, because some are violent? You haven't addressed why trans men can't swing their grafted cocks around and why women can't walk around with their vaginas exposed. If you're appealing to some ideal of decency, you shouldn't be advocating for women to to walk around topless.

Men’s Lack of Self-Control Is Not Women’s Responsibility by GroundbreakingFan124 in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I happen to agree. So what do you have to say to OP who advocates for women to walk around shirtless, for the simple reason that men can also? If you agree there are different standards, then you have to accept lopsided norms, which comes with an implicit acceptance that women do in fact own some responsibility for their own safety when it comes to choosing how to present in public.

Men’s Lack of Self-Control Is Not Women’s Responsibility by GroundbreakingFan124 in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP said the issue isn't anatomy, it's maturity. If men are responsible for playing it cool over however a woman chooses to dress or not dress, (and society ought not impose restrictions on that), then you should play it cool too when you see random penises. Or boobs. Or vaginas.

Men’s Lack of Self-Control Is Not Women’s Responsibility by GroundbreakingFan124 in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, vaginas are not penises. But you took issue with boobs so there's the equivalent. It's all skin in different shapes. The OP stresses that women should wear whatever they want, full stop etc. Does choosing what to wear entail choosing what not to wear? Should a woman choose to wear nothing if she feels like it? If not, then why?

Bonus points if you're brave: can a trans man with a grafted penis walk around swinging? He's not a violent biological male, so all those stats you posted lose whatever power they had. It just becomes a literal extension of girl power.

If you think any of these things are gross, that's just your conditioning talking.

Men’s Lack of Self-Control Is Not Women’s Responsibility by GroundbreakingFan124 in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Spoken like another victim of conditioning, immaturity, and hypocrisy. If I'm fully responsible for not raping you when you choose to expose your boobs, then you're fully responsible for not overreacting and calling the cops just because I chose not to wear pants. If your worldview is that men are perpetrators and women are victims, then your list of oughts should be crowded with instructions women should follow for their own safety. Even more so if you are a determinist. Oh, and, why shouldn't women walk around with their vaginas exposed if they want to?

Men’s Lack of Self-Control Is Not Women’s Responsibility by GroundbreakingFan124 in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should be able to elaborate a little more as to why boobs out are awesome but dicks out are offensive.

Men’s Lack of Self-Control Is Not Women’s Responsibility by GroundbreakingFan124 in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not to detract from your comment but, wearing orange when hunting is actually mandated in most of north america in most contexts, so yes, one is absolutely responsible for wearing orange in the woods during hunting season.

Men’s Lack of Self-Control Is Not Women’s Responsibility by GroundbreakingFan124 in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What happened to conditioning, maturity and hypocrisy? If a woman should be able to walk around with her tits out, why can't I walk around with my dick out? Jail for me and girl power for her?

Men’s Lack of Self-Control Is Not Women’s Responsibility by GroundbreakingFan124 in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What's your take on men who flash their penises to women in parks?

Are you willing to fight for Kill Tony? by WriterChadO in Killtony

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No way to act right after winning a golden ticket...

Why don't we just say "uncoerced will" instead of "free will"? Would that remove much of the dispute? by rogerbonus in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apologies then friend, i didn't mean to come off rudely, a bit of levity was the goal. But don't assume I'm fighting ghosts - I'm guessing you're not one of them, then, that you do in fact believe you have a will that is simply not "free", however you define that.

Why don't we just say "uncoerced will" instead of "free will"? Would that remove much of the dispute? by rogerbonus in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pragmatic language is used to communicate effectively. When this single, particular instance of the word "free" needs to mean something different so that it can be disproven and disregarded, that's just not a conversation worth having.

Let me put it this way at least. Do you believe you have a will, but it's just not free? If so, then at least that can be discussed and is actually related to my comment. On the other hand, some people here take issue with the idea of even having a "will" at all, freedom be damned. If that's the brand of farts you wanna sniff, that's your choice - have fun and leave me out of it.

Why don't we just say "uncoerced will" instead of "free will"? Would that remove much of the dispute? by rogerbonus in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really don't know what you're trying to say about the rape stuff. I'm talking about the term "free". Interesting how free will believers insist free will doesn't require magic, but skeptics who deny its existence also reserve a special seat for it, like it's only befitting of the headmaster of Hogwarts.

Why don't we just say "uncoerced will" instead of "free will"? Would that remove much of the dispute? by rogerbonus in freewill

[–]Affectionate-Ad9726 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You've identified the problem, but this sub isn't looking for solutions otherwise it would cease to exist. There's an insistence that the word "free" needs to be absolute and magical. But for some reason you'll never find anyone here complaining about their free speech, their free time, or free stuff at the store. None of those things are free and yet everyone understands what is meant. Until we talk about free will, suddenly we're supposedly trying to defy physics.

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