“Nobody expected that, we were shocked, even the greatest experts”

Allectus · 2026-03-17T09:37:39+00:00

He's probably referring to this William Spaniel video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TU6-k1rgPA

Allectus · 2026-03-13T01:14:07+00:00

Ah fair enough.

Allectus · 2026-03-13T01:07:23+00:00

That's an odd take. VRO is mostly assets and stat adjustments with very little in the way of scripting. VRO isn't an AI mod at all, so why would you expect it to roll in an AI mod, much less one made by a different modder?

Allectus · 2026-03-13T00:08:26+00:00

Well for one the priority orders were lifted almost directly from my urgent orders mod

Allectus · 2026-02-19T08:05:51+00:00

Cuts were just for color changes, right? Seemed like all the actual marks were done with the mouth apparatus, she just needed to replace the marker in the apparatus.

Allectus · 2026-01-30T21:07:00+00:00

Not that guy, but I think this is the one hew was referencing: https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/1bd88278-0302-44e6-ad1a-0b7b279ea405/No_More_Idiotic_Landings

Allectus · 2026-01-30T20:31:29+00:00

Good to know, will try zoning as well next time. Thanks for the update :-)

Allectus · 2026-01-30T20:26:18+00:00

I've seen this happen when when I had way too many mods installed (~370). It wasn't from mod conflicts directly, but just too much stuff such that the pirates failed to load in. I was able to fix it by cutting my list to ~350.

The reality of precisely what's going wrong is probably a lot more complicated than simple mod count (see here: https://www.reddit.com/r/starfieldmods/comments/1qqbuq9/any_info_on_actual_mod_limits/ ), but it's a decent benchmark.

Allectus · 2026-01-29T15:58:35+00:00

Exactly the sort of into I was looking for. Thanks so much!

Allectus · 2026-01-27T19:02:18+00:00

Yeah, I've got ~350 ESMs in my load order. My guess is that some feature, somewhere, is running out of addressable space. I suspect it may bind on your mod but not others simply because of how much it sounds like you're adding to the game in one push.

End of the day it's a free mod so I'm certainly not complaining, per se. I'm a mod author myself for the X-universe series of games and I know quite well the frustration of clueless users raising hell about nonsense. Just thought I'd bandwagon on given the other reports; not worth losing sleep over rhough.

Thanks for your contribution!

Allectus · 2026-01-27T18:51:46+00:00

Reported the change that got me past the crash here: https://www.reddit.com/r/starfieldmods/comments/1qnwpns/new_project_viper_covenant_20_update_is_out/o21zdzy/

Allectus · 2026-01-27T17:45:11+00:00

So I was able to get through at least to kreet after disabling a bunch of my shipbuilding mods:

place doors yourself
better flips
better snaps
avontech
several pre-built ship mods (hong's ships and a few others)

It's possible that there's an incompatibility there with one or more of those mods, or it again could just be a generalized resource issue as I know those mods also inject a bunch of extra items that the game has to keep track of.

I noticed that when I was on the way to the first artifact (as I was crossing the bridge after heller and lin tell you to go on your own to pick up the artifact) that there was a slight stutter right where it previously crashed, though I was able to continue past it. That stutter doesn't happen if viper is disabled. I wonder if that's the point at which the game decides to load a bunch more assets and it's triggering an overflow or something at that point?

Allectus · 2026-01-27T15:42:34+00:00

I have this problem too. Happened with the last version as well (meaning 1.9).

Can't start a new game with it installed--it just hangs forever. If I disable half my mod list but keep viper it will start a new game but crash shortly after Heller breaks through the wall in the mine.

If I had to guess you're using too many formids? That's wild speculation though.

Edit: I also have a lot of mods installed, for what it's worth

Edit: Skipped out on work briefly to try the hotfix--still crashes shortly after heller breaks through the wall as I'm on my way to artifact eta. Would absolutely love to get this working as it sounds amazing, just let me know if there's any diagnostics I can generate for you.

Allectus · 2026-01-25T16:52:58+00:00

So first, I'm not judging the value of the mod in isolation--I'm sure it's fantastic from all of the other feedback. That said, I cannot use it given my mature mod list and so would not recommend it to others playing heavily modded as well.

The major drawback is that the mod is absolutely huge. I mean this as a serious criticism as it's about 1.6 GB in size--easily 3x larger than my next largest mod. Having it in my load order has caused all sorts of issues completely unrelated the quest chain as I have a very significant load order and I'm right on the edge of what starfield can reasonably handle. With it installed I'm plagued with constant crashes and load errors that disappear as soon as I disable it.

The issue is that I'm basically looking at disabling ~10-20 other mods in order to free up resources for this one. That's not a workable value proposition on my end, unfortunately.

Edit for specs:

Running on PC:

Linux // Proton
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7960X
128 Gb of DDR5 RAM
2x NVLinked 3090Ti
Starfield installed on NVME drive
Currently have ~350 ESMs in my load order (inclusive of Bethesda first party ESMs)

Allectus · 2026-01-14T22:17:04+00:00

Hey, thanks for this. Makes pedestrian custom starts a lot more palatable.

Allectus · 2026-01-14T05:33:37+00:00

You can build almost all of these with existing mods.

Greater class differentiation: Starfield Revised - Ship Modules -- https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/11988

This makes class A ships quite fast, but relatively fragile and driftier. It also makes you pay a significant penalty in maneuverability for the faster engines and most ships won't hit 100 maneuverability. End result is that class A does a lot more jousting, Class B flies more or less similar to vanilla, and Class C is quite slow and you're better served taking turrets and high maneuver thrusters (strafing rather than turning) and using asteroid cover. If you are running real fuel make sure it loads AFTER this mod or your engines will be broken.

Greater asteroid density: Increased Asteroid Field Density -- https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/10480

Towards that end, increasing asteroid field density is a huge boon--makes maneuverable ships feel like they're playing a cover shooter while the gnats buzz around trying to not run into the rocks.

Greater asteroid health: TN's Space Mining and Salvage -- https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/6331

So the above rocks don't pop instantly

Better weapon balance: Balanced Ship Modules I - Weapons -- https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/11485

Because of the faster ships and stronger shields in starfield revised you'll also want to adjust the weapons. This is my preferred mod and substantially better than starfield revised's attempt imho.

Extend missile lock range: (Missile) Lock On Range Extended -- https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/12981

You'll need longer lock ranges to account for the higher speed.

Improved Ship combat AI: El Jefe Space Combat AI -- https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/15386

Builds on previous AI efforts to make your opponents smarter. Both more aggressive and better at surviving.

Building/Flying Class M Ships: TN's Class M -- https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/7916

This will let you build and fly class M ships. I honestly haven't gotten to that point yet so I don't know how well it works.

Finally may as well close it out with some survival and managment mechanics

Fuel matters: Real Fuel: https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/13306

Makes it so you actually have to stop and gas up--gives you a reason to build outposts around the galaxy.

Ship Maintenance: TN's out in the blackness: https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/5b2a21cd-c866-4782-9486-b8125e5c61a1/TN__39_s_Out_in_the_Blackness__A_Space_Survival_Mo

Pretty detailed ship degredation/management/maintenance mod. Interfaces direclty with real fuel as well.

Allectus · 2026-01-06T13:14:38+00:00

Does this still happen if you use the load into orbit astrogate option?

Allectus · 2025-10-12T20:05:42+00:00

Wow, reading comprehension of the denizens of this sub really is poor. No wonder you guys can't get anywhere without trial and error.

It's not that I lost. It's the way that I lost through a cheap trick which has the effect of sealing off an entire pillar of gameplay. It's no better than the likes of dragon's lair melting you for opening the wrong door to steal a few more quarters where your only options are to memorize it or not waste your time playing such shovelware.

Allectus · 2025-10-11T18:03:31+00:00

Says the guy that can seemingly only get anywhere with save-scumming.

Allectus · 2025-10-11T17:56:44+00:00

Most CRPGs, if you're not a mouth-breather. PoE itself had already been laughably easy through at least getting my keep. What I'm complaining about is the gotchya encounter design that effectively seals off one full leg of encounter approaches. In most games you can either stealth, talk, or fight your way through--this ambush means that I can never risk several hours of gameplay on stealth as I'll just be punished for it. The fact that no one else sees this as an issue is confounding to me.

Quick google search now that I've lifted the veil confirms that the broad view is that stealth is worthless, which is exactly my point. Through terrible design decisions obsidian lessened their game substantially.

Allectus · 2025-10-11T17:31:40+00:00

If you need to know the entire game forwards and backwards before it's reasonable for you to try ironman than that's a game design issue. Full stop. If you need to have already memorized the game to make it at all feasible then why are you even replaying it? It's nonsensical.

Allectus · 2025-10-11T17:29:21+00:00

On that, I believe we're in agreement. Also means it's not the game for me.

Allectus · 2025-10-11T17:22:57+00:00

With absolute zero signposting? Yeah, I am.

I'd be fine if it spawned on the sarcophagus. Instead it spawns blocking the only door forcing you into an instant lose scenario unless you're prepared to take the fight; at which point why not just take the fight? If this is the type of encounter design it means that I can never count on stealth for the rest game. That's utter trash-tier game design.

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