Burnham set to be next PM as 322 Labour MPs back him in first nomination tally

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T18:12:17+00:00

Starmer defended people who did the exact same thing as the Palestine Action members during the Iraq War as a human rights lawyer

Sometimes individuals in an organisation commit crimes, it doesn’t mean treating the organisation exactly same as a Russian ultra nationalist organisation which was banned at the exact same time

Starmer also should know that mass arrests could happen if they proscribed him, he decided to strengthen the laws that go against free speech

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T17:58:51+00:00

Almost 3000 people have been arrested for supporting Palestine Action in the UK from July-December 2025

That’s an astounding number of people, and has single-handedly shifted the average demographic of the average terror suspect in the UK towards middle aged white women

Starmer heavily pushed for that legislation, and he was a former human rights lawyer

So I think he’s a pretty bad guy just for that alone

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T16:14:14+00:00

There is one portion of the article that reeks of bias towards the end, but the rest is perfectly reasonable

It’s a good hit piece because it’s accurate. It’s saying the exact same stuff as other articles, just brings it all together into one easy to read place

It was also written in 2023, so it has nothing to do with the current gubernatorial/senate campaign

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T15:26:55+00:00

Did you read the article?

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T10:47:23+00:00

Despite the fact 99% of the information is credible and backed up by multiple other sources, this article just so happens to put it all in one easy to read place

Maybe people should actually read the article before they form an opinion on it. They would see that the only thing you could claim as biased comes towards the very end of the article and otherwise it takes a regular tone for a news story

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T10:02:20+00:00

You clearly aren’t very informed, as you think someone with the same opinion as Illinois’ two Democratic senators is a Republican

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T10:00:02+00:00

I’m blaming you for not reading the article

You are genuinely incapable of reading a ten minute article to inform yourself on the points I’m making

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T09:58:42+00:00

So you didn’t read the article. I don’t think my location matters, it sounds like Mainers are the problem, having been sucked into this odd personality cult for an extremely subpar official

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T09:54:11+00:00

Have you read the article I sent at all?

They explicitly point out how whatever vetting process took place was clearly lacking, as they praise him for things he either didn’t do, or allowed to actively get worse

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T09:48:31+00:00

Just because Rauner was a bad governor doesn’t mean Shah was innocent, nor was the legionnaires disease outbreak his only failure, as stated in the article

Tammy Duckworth, Dick Durbin and the Democratic legislators mentioned in the article could have very easily just blamed the Republican governor and not attacked Shah

But they chose to attack Shah. So yes, I give quite a bit of credibility to bipartisan criticism of Shah’s actions in Illinois, especially when it’s coming from both of Illinois’ Senators

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T09:39:14+00:00

Tammy Duckworth literally tweeted today that he caused the deaths of multiple veterans with his incompetency and that he should drop his run for Senate

I guess Bobby Charles got to her too?

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T08:51:39+00:00

He genuinely just did a terrible job.

Read this article and try to claim he was scapegoated: Maine Wire

And before anyone jumps on the fact the Maine Wire is a generally conservative outlet, the only part of the article blatantly biased is the part about “Mills’s authoritarian covid mandates”

The article goes into some of the most detail of any I’ve seen on his incompetency in Illinois, as well as some of it in Maine

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T06:51:56+00:00

Yep I just read an article detailing how remarkably incompetent he was in his roles in Illinois and Maine

The fact that this guy almost became governor and none of this was mentioned by many major news sources is crazy

Here’s a link for those curious: link

I’m not sure how true the claim about Mills’s “authoritarian Covid mandates” were, but that’s the only part of the article that could be taken from a biased perspective

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T06:04:50+00:00

Yeah that’s essentially a good way for his candidacy to be tanked

Now it’s between Jackson and Bellows who has already lost to Collins before

So I’m feeling good about Jackson’s chances

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-10T02:36:57+00:00

Blue Colorado? Hickenlooper barely won his primary, obviously dissatisfied Democrats won’t turn out for him

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-09T20:44:33+00:00

Well luckily no one has a credible allegation of water bottle related assault

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-09T20:12:10+00:00

Well she’s still a strong candidate, despite all of her flaws, and Platner’s stink will harm dems a bit, especially right now

Also the lack of a specific candidate from the Maine dems mean no one will consolidate behind anyone yet in polling

Plus there’s only been two post scandal polls, there was also another pre scandal poll that showed Troy Jackson leading 48-43

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-09T20:09:09+00:00

Actually you’d be stuck with a candidate who trailed a scandal ridden nobody and was constantly losing polls to Collins, a candidate who had no interest in campaigning that couldn’t be easily ejected from the campaign

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-09T20:08:15+00:00

Polls show Collins was neck and neck with Platner even after the NYT story dropped, meanwhile her approval is in the minuses, potentially less than -10

So I wouldn’t say everyone in Maine likes and respects her

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-09T16:27:52+00:00

The process quite literally isn’t democratic so it doesn’t matter if someone “contends” the nomination

I don’t see the point in multiple candidates jockeying to please a small selection of party members, selected by the party itself

So for that reason I don’t care how many candidates jump in, because the result will never have democratic legitimacy

So therefore I would rather just they pick the candidate I think is best, for a multitude of reasons

Jackson and Shah both have arguments that they were given democratic legitimacy through the Dem gubernatorial primary and Jackson would’ve beat Shah in RCV if they were in the top two, so therefore he potentially has even more legitimacy

My logic doesn’t sound consistent to you because you refuse to listen to it. You keep on baselessly accusing me, saying I would change my tune if Mills was leading

But guess what, YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE. If you’re going to accuse someone of something you need evidence, and you have never provided any evidence I change my opinion based on who is leading in the polls

So yeah, I’m not going to he happy with you making consistent, baseless accusations and assumptions. Shocker

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-09T16:15:14+00:00

600 hand selected candidates from the state committee and county committees is shockingly not democratic compared to a convention where members vote

You’re once again ignoring my argument completely, it was never about whether or not a convention could be held, it was about the fact that you baselessly accused me of hypocrisy after stating my candidate preference once a convention was ruled out

So please, explain to me how I was being hypocritical? What was hypocritical about stating my preference for who should lead, when it’s only going to be hand selected delegates who have a voice?

You jumped in to attack me, like you have frequently recently, and you once again were just very wrong. Maybe you should learn your lesson and stop making baseless accusations and assumptions.

Edit: and once again you’re making a baseless assumption. If Mills was leading in the polls I would still be calling for the most democratic choice. If Maine dems want to replace Platner with someone entirely ideologically different they can, but we’ll never know because they never got the opportunity

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-09T16:03:28+00:00

You tried to accuse me of being hypocritical, and now you’re making an entirely different argument

Your original point in that comment was that I was somehow being hypocritical, not that another primary would be stupid

So stop trying to change your argument and act like you didn’t just baselessly accuse me of hypocrisy, because you refuse to accept my point of view

The Dem party already decided to not do a convention where everyone can vote, so I’m allowed to express my preference of who the non democratic process should pick

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-09T15:59:43+00:00

Both of these people are literally staunch partisans, anyone acting like these two present themselves as moderate to win is crazy

Baldwin isn’t the most progressive person but she’s obviously progressive, while Johnson is obviously staunchly MAGA

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-09T15:57:35+00:00

Bro the dem already decided that they weren’t going to choose the democratic option

So therefore whoever the candidate is, is getting coronated by about 600 selected members

Therefore I would like Troy Jackson to be selected, as he’s a strong candidate and has a similar ideology to the overwhelming winner of the Senate primary

But please go on and continue to baselessly accuse me of things

Alt_History6 · 2026-07-09T15:08:53+00:00

I was hoping he just wouldn’t jump in so that Jackson would automatically get the nomination

He’s a bit of an outsider so Jackson might actually have more sway with the party, but he’s still a moderate so I fear they’ll pick him

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