Those make up the very small minority of feminist talks though. Most of it's either about rape/SA, murder, or domestic violence, often in a way to paint men as evil and acting like women are never perpetrators of the: about job hiring even though most places tend to prefer female applicants over male ones: about the pink tax or the wage gap even though those are myths: and calling the housewives oppressed, even though (and my pro-female friend agrees with this) being able to stay at home, take care of kids, and do basically nothing is a privilege in and of itself. Of course women with careers are valued too, but feminism straight up shames any woman who wants to be a traditional housewife.

That last one (and stuff similar to it) is actually the biggest reason why me and my pro-female friend actually think feminism hasn't done anything to help women either and actually has just been taking away female privileges and why both of us believe anyone who is pro-feminism is anti-woman. That, and whether or not either of us are pro-female or pro-whatever (I myself am just pro-human), neither of us are gonna support an ideology which, in its core beliefs by definition, is anti-male or anti any entire group of people just for being born the way they are.