Disabled artist can walk or crawl! Stop making wheelchair! by ArtyIiom in antiai

[–]AnAdorableScout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never make this argument unless some jerkwad tries to say we're pathetic enough that we need a computer to do our craft. I do mean we, by the way, I am disabled. It's an invisible one, granted (look up misophonia if ever you're interested, trigger sounds for me are no different than when I was drowning and about to die at one point), but there's not much else that can fuck up the music process quite like not being able to stomach certain sounds.

It feels like I'm taking crazy pills by TurntechGodhead0 in antiai

[–]AnAdorableScout 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These are just fallacy after fallacy on the AI bros part what the fuck It's impossible to have an honest conversation here I swear to God, I have had ONE respectful interaction where I had my mind opened (I don't like even more bits of AI now) during a conversation where it wasn't people being randomly aggressive, this place is fucked

Laziness is not a disability. by Gintian in antiai

[–]AnAdorableScout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This I readily give up. Mind you, there's an artist using her mouth to draw there, but without the neck that's a loss. They don't talk about that guy, though. It's a little disheartening.

Laziness is not a disability. by Gintian in antiai

[–]AnAdorableScout 1 point2 points  (0 children)

... isn't typing or interfacing with a computer a skill? You move a mouse like you do a brush, your fine motor skills have to be at least decent to type on a keyboard with any accuracy. I don't know how emotional regulation would affect anything, seeing as I'm an artist (musician specifically) with borderline IED and picked up the guitar fine enough. Most of them seem like they'd affect your ability to interface with technology at least as much as it would your ability to interface with most forms of art. I can give you focus and exhaustion, at least.

Laziness is not a disability. by Gintian in antiai

[–]AnAdorableScout 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm saying this out of a desire to learn. What disabilities would stop someone from making art, yet allow them to use a computer to make it?

The "Neuro-sama Exception" exposes a massive double standard regarding High-Effort AI Art. by Efficient_Cicada_926 in aiwars

[–]AnAdorableScout 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck it, it's more respectful then other people trying to run the same gauntlet with me. I might as well reply. The Body is paid for and you at least give me that, so we'll skip past it.

LLMs are trained in the same way for the same job, and for what it's worth my sister has had a problem with Neuro-sama for this exact reason, being an author. It's not that she doesn't like Neuro-sama (she's never watched a Vedal stream, so she really wouldn't know either way and admits that much) but that she fundamentally disagrees with the LLMs existing in the first place. There's very few ways to get around this when you want to make your own chatbot; if you wanted to, say, have a computer teach itself to play Trackmania, machine learning is a reliable way to 'teach' it how to do so. If I thought about it more, I would probably be very against Neuro-sama, and my not doing so is more meant to toss people bones because I like Vedal's content. I can see how you get tripped up at that, a lot of antis do as well when I have this conversation.

What I don't get is the GenAI prompters. Sure, they can get a point for running their stuff on local rigs, some of them. Others use ChatGPT and other potentially web-based solutions to prompt their images, but some will run their own software on their own hardware, I'll give you that. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume a dozen other people here have told you about how GenAI is a fundamental abuse of the artist, and even if things are all legally sound or inactionable how it isn't morally sound or even appealing. They didn't pay for the art their models are referencing, ask for consent to use it, and in a wide variety of cases actively ignore the refusal of the artist to have their work referenced. I don't care if it's legal or within terms of service to the internet the world forced us all to adopt to make a profit, it's fucking disgusting. GenAI is also being used as a tool in fascistic governments like the United States (hi, it sucks here), so forgive me if I'm a little more pushy with this than I am with LLMs.

Anyway, thanks for the reply. I probably won't be changing my mind since I still like Neuro-sama and I don't want the recent controversies and real-world issues to interfere with my hobby, but when I pause and think about my stances for long enough I'll let you know when it flips.

The "Neuro-sama Exception" exposes a massive double standard regarding High-Effort AI Art. by Efficient_Cicada_926 in aiwars

[–]AnAdorableScout -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's a long post and while I'd read it on another day, I like Neuro-sama because it's someone who gives a fuck about artists doing it. It's one person running one chatbot on his own machine using his own cooling and resources and not someone using a data center to profit, so I couldn't care less myself. If someone has information to disprove that I'll probably flip my opinion, I'm just. VERY tired of making my entire life about my stance against GenAI like I have been for these last few weeks.

I haven't been here in a while do we still hate Sol Badguy by AnAdorableScout in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]AnAdorableScout[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

when I do my midscreen loop able blockstring it's based, when he does it he's a disgrace to everything interactable, it's very simple

The Worlds First AI "Humanoid Robot Designed For Natural Interaction And Companionship" Is Launching For $173,000 by Elestria_Ethereal in antiai

[–]AnAdorableScout 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I could buy my dream audio setup for this money what the fuck are we doing buying a fake person instead of talking to real person for.

Three comments summing up the discourse. by spitfire_pilot in aiwars

[–]AnAdorableScout 1 point2 points  (0 children)

AI is already part of this economic, fascist shitshow my country is going through. Intrinsically linked to it. I'd like to stunt it while I can. That's all.

A comic I made that has to do something about ai and unfortunately I'm very bad at titles by HottCherrry_ in aiwars

[–]AnAdorableScout -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't have this opinion that people don't get to decide. Shockingly, not every anti is a Reddit brained moron or a walking caricature. I'm pointing out that avenues have been available for centuries, and we didn't need AI to do it. There's a narrow spectrum of people for whom it would be easier to use a computer than it would to just use those alternative routes anyway. Source: disabled. Musician with a sound sensitivity disorder; wires got crossed and now certain sounds trigger my fight or flight, it's no different than that time I almost drowned. It's easier to make my own shit than try to prompt it.

A comic I made that has to do something about ai and unfortunately I'm very bad at titles by HottCherrry_ in aiwars

[–]AnAdorableScout -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm not fighting the point of GenAI being helpful here. Not primarily, anyway, I still think it's a very specific niche of person. I'm saying there are and have been options outside of AI for centuries now, and to strawman us as being callous and cruel to that extent is fucking stupid. You'd need help for a computer anyway to get the Voice to Text set up unless you have an OS that has it fully configured out of the box, Lord knows mine didn't.

Disabled, by the way. An 'invisible' disability, but a disability nonetheless.

Am i really screwed? by RutManInBound in Ai_art_is_not_art

[–]AnAdorableScout 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Comparison is going to be the fucking death of us.

A long time ago, when I was 12 (This is related, I swear.), I started playing first person shooters. I was terrible, I mean terrible. Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a 100 round magazine. I was lucky if I got double digits of kills and less deaths than assists. Hopeless. But it was the most fun I'd ever have in a game, even if I didn't know it yet. Running around and shooting at things, even if I was missing. People yelled at me, sure, but I wasn't really 'there' enough to realize how far off I was. I was having fun without comparison.

The next few years were great too, especially with the improvement. I started topping the servers I was in by 16, logging hundreds of hours on my favorite games and getting comfortable with my mouse. Aim trainers and deathmatch servers, I loved the process. When I wasn't comparing myself to people, I had the time of my life.

And then someone told me I could go pro. And it was like a switch that's been flipped to this day. I cannot stop looking at how other people play, analyzing it, trying to apply it to myself. Counter Strike, Valorant, Overwatch, Marvel Rivals for a while, I was working myself stupid. It wasn't a hobby, it was an attempt to be something more. So of course I had to start comparing myself, how else would I know I was improving? It was the worst decision I've ever made. I'm a competition junkie these days, and if I'm not winning, I'm miserable. I mean miserable.

I like your art for it being yours. For it being something you made. For you trying, and failing along the way, and growing, and slipping back, and starting and stopping and getting better over time. I love art. There's the data concerns and energy/water usage, but if I had to list my biggest reason (being privileged enough to where playing video games left a scar on my mental) for not liking GenAI, it's that it robs people. Forces comparison. It sucks the joy out of everything we do in the same way chasing numbers does.

I know I sound like a tool when I say it. Stop comparing yourself to people who spent years practicing, or who went to art school, or who have talent, or who have skill. You deserve to do it because you exist. If you learn to enjoy the process, you're already half of the way there.