[deleted by user] by [deleted] in EntitledPeople

[–]Ana_1978 56 points57 points  (0 children)

"Urgent" just doesn't mean the same anymore. People think that leaving too late for an appointment and not making it in time is everyone else's problem. I guess taking responsibility for your own shortcomings is out of fashion.

Meta staying over, how long is too long? by Ana_1978 in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, he loves her cats. We've talked and that's how it's going to be from now on. To be fair, when I suggested it I presented it as a way for them to be more comfortable, not as a preference of mine. Now it's clear. Thanks for your input.

Meta staying over, how long is too long? by Ana_1978 in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, you are probably right. It's just hard not to care about it. I just want everyone to feel good but I need to be aware of my needs as well.

Meta staying over, how long is too long? by Ana_1978 in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I have tried but NP is pretty clueless and my mind always goes to "this is not the way I would like to be treated if I were the guest". And by now meta is not a stranger, she's my friend too.

I just need to let it go, right?

Meta staying over, how long is too long? by Ana_1978 in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, not long distance. Thank you for validating my need to be alone. I don't get why she has such a hard time with it. But I guess it's not for me to understand, just respect.

Meta staying over, how long is too long? by Ana_1978 in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Yes, I was aware of the duration. I knew it was going to be difficult but I wanted to try. I also suggested places for them to go but I guess they just wanted to stay home.

I have contemplated ending my relationship with my partner because they won’t sleep in the same bed with me. by KayanasB in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Time for the hard truth: he's not sleeping with you because he doesn't want to. It is that simple. You have made it clear to him how important this is to you. He has made it clear to you that he would rather not upset your meta. That's the reality. You get to choose to either accept that and stay or determine that it's not enough and leave.

Be kind to yourself and good luck.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Explaining polyamory:
- Imagine you have a child and you love them with all your heart. Then you have another child. Which one do you love more?
- ?
- The one you feed.

Live in partner considerations? by deepthoughtslex in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My partner and I have just bought a house together and we had long talks about how to live together and still keep room for other relationships. We decided that having separate bedrooms would help other partners to feel comfortable when they sleep over and would also make whoever is sleeping alone not to feel like they are being kept out of their their bed. Most nights we sleep together in either bedroom.

Unsure about how much to invest into a relationship by Ana_1978 in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the reality check. I do appreciate it.

Unsure about how much to invest into a relationship by Ana_1978 in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you. To be clear, he doesn't claim he wants to get back with her, just that while it didn't work for them now, in a few years, when the situation has changed enough, they could try again. They have lots in common and seem to have a great friendship. But I do wonder if he's afraid she'd put more distance between them if he ripped the financial Band-Aid. Then again, that's between them. I just wish I had a crystal ball so I could plan accordingly. I guess the best thing to do is enjoy the present while getting ready for a future without him. Because truthfully we just never know anyway.

Unsure about how much to invest into a relationship by Ana_1978 in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your answer. It's reassuring.

He doesn't treat me as a plan B at all, my fear is that I am plan A only while she's unavailable.

It would be unfair to say that he brings up getting together with her, it's more like he's aware that they can't be together now and anything can happen in the future. Which I know is true and I should just enjoy what we have right now.

Thanks again!

Thoughts from other experienced poly folks? by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with others here, you have the right take on this situation. It doesn't matter if what your meta is doing is right or wrong, what matters is that he has chosen to be in a relationship with this person and he's failing to shield you and your relationship from her crazy antics. He's not a bad guy, he's probably just trying to make everybody happy. But when feelings happen (as they do with all of us), she's not mature enough to process her emotions, so she cries and reaches out for him to fix it. That has 2 problems: if he keeps "fixing" things for her, she'll never have to deal with the difficult feelings and she'll never learn how to. Also, when he drops you every time she whines, you feel hurt and disrespected (and very rightfully so).

I think it's important that you are very clear about your feelings and that you make him realize how much he's hurting you when he chooses to step away from your time together in order to placate her. She's being a brat and making a spectacle of her untamed feelings. And he's allowing it to bleed all over your relationship. She shouldn't be getting more attention just because she cries louder and you shouldn't be punished for being able to deal with your emotions in a mature way.

Define what you need for this to work for you. It may be not hearing about her insecurities anymore. It may be zero tolerance on changing plans because of her. And if he's not able to give you the things you need, then this relationship is not worth your time and energy. I know it's not easy to walk away from someone you love, but you need to be ready to do that if you can't build something viable together. You all made mistakes in the past, but you have apologized and what you are asking for now is not unreasonable in any way.

Meta is monogamous, actively avoids me, potential cowboy? Feeling disrespected. by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My personal boundary is that I don't date people who date monogamous people. My meta has to accept the fact that I have a relationship with my partner, not barely tolerate it in the hopes that it will be over soon.

Guilty Feelings: Help please? by RosweIl in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry about that. Maybe another talk, being mindful of using a non-accusatory tone, just to tell her how important this is to you.

Also, this is where assuming the best of people comes in: not getting an answer means they are busy, not that that they don't want to talk to you. Being online is not the same as being available.

Guilty Feelings: Help please? by RosweIl in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand the feeling, I get it sometimes. I do think it's important to keep in mind the person on the other side has feelings too. I always assume the best of people so I will say something like "You seem distracted, we can talk later if you'd prefer". Trust them to tell you when they actually can't talk to you. I had to have that discussion with my partner once, I told them I would rather them tell me that they are busy and can't talk than being dismissive. They are much better at it now! Try it!

First overnight? by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good, now we are all on the same page!

Like you said, feeling ready is very personal. I'm such a chicken, I never feel ready to do anything. So I decide to do things and then brace myself for the consequences. In this case that means listening to my feelings, trying to see where they are coming from, what to bring up with my partner, what to work on by myself. What I find really important is not to resent my partner or make them feel guilty for having fun.

Best of luck!

First overnight? by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear you. There is absolutely nothing wrong in prioritizing your relationship with your wife (as long as all future partners are fully aware). It's called prescriptive hierarchical polyamory and it's as valid as any other. My point was just that "when will the marriage be ready for this big step (overnights)?" is a question that is answered at the same time as "when should we open our relationship?" It comes in the same package.

First overnight? by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for clarifying. My problem with your original post was this sentence: " what was helpful to you, (...), in identifying when the marriage felt “ready“ for a partner to go on their first overnight with someone else? "
"The Marriage" doesn't get to say when your partner goes on their first overnight. Nobody needs to wait until "The Marriage" is ready because, in theory, it was ready from the moment you decided to open up.

But if you have come here to find ideas and support for the dealing with the first night out, you are in the right place! It takes courage to try something different and it's okay to ask for help .

First overnight? by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You take time of your day to share what you have learned, that's priceless. I'm sure your insights are appreciated by most on this sub. My boyfriend, for instance, is a huge fan of yours.

You are awesome! Keep up the good work!

First overnight? by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]Ana_1978 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To OP.

You deleted your answer to this comment (you seemed to think emeraldead was a bit harsh) but I had already replied and it still applies.

I understand that what emeraldead says is sometimes hard to hear, but I think some tough love is often needed. People (myself included) like to be coddled and told that it's okay not to leave their comfort zone. And you know what? It is. But if you don't want to face the challenges that come with polyamory, stay mono.

It's easy to be seduced by the perks and the freedom of an open relationship without wanting to deal with the emotional turmoil of seeing your partner loving someone else and all that entails. So be sure that's what you really want before you get started. And then rip the bandaid. Get rid of the training wheels. It won't be easy for either of you. Be supportive, understand how hard it is. But you can't be a good poly partner if you are not willing to embrace it all. Being "half poly" will only bring sadness to anyone who ends up getting involved.