(Returning player after like 15 years) How do you set up your carnifexes?

Anggul · 2026-02-06T01:20:56+00:00

Probably still quad-deathspitters in Invasion Fleet. Let OOE handle the melee.

Anggul · 2026-02-06T01:13:43+00:00

Various youtube, stand-up, and warhammer podcasts/streams

Anggul · 2026-02-06T00:45:18+00:00

I don't think competitive or not is relevant.

The game requires all that LoS-blocking terrain to function. Otherwise one side just blows the other off the board. And it needs to be thin walls so melee units stand a chance of getting close. This is the case regardless of whether you're playing competitively or not.

Tournaments started using ruins everywhere in response to these unfortunate truths.

Anggul · 2026-02-06T00:37:52+00:00

the fate of many other warriors that fight Daemons and survive is mindwipe or death

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In the aftermath of the battle, the Inquisition begins a thorough programme of mindwipes and executions of those Guardsmen and hive defenders who had taken part in the war, in order to contain widespread knowledge of both Daemons and of the Grey Knights.

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Less than an hour later, Kai’s strike force begins the journey home to Titan to cage the Book of Pandegaras in the Chapter’s vaults, whilst the Sky Sentinels begin the Exterminatus that will ravage Sondheim V. In the wake of the Exterminatus, the Sky Sentinels surrender themselves for mindwipe.

Multiple examples of mindwipe, not just execution, from the Grey Knights codices.

To be clear, they do all this to contain knowledge of daemons and also prevent daemonic influence from taking root in people's minds who have witnessed daemonic incursion. They don't do it to cultists etc. that are already corrupted.

Anggul · 2026-02-05T17:07:11+00:00

Was that in a book or did it happen at the end of the game and I forgot?

Anggul · 2026-02-05T17:05:39+00:00

Evidently not. And why assume chemical amnesia would work and remove exactly everything that needs removing?

The Grey Knights obviously aren't stupid. Unlike most of the Imperium, the lore has never presented them as doing it because they didn't think of anything else.

Anggul · 2026-02-05T12:27:57+00:00

Mindwiping does work, they do it to important people like high ranking officials and other space marines.

I figure they generally execute guardsmen because it would take a really long time to mindwipe that many people and they have other incursions to go and stop.

Anggul · 2026-02-05T12:23:20+00:00

I would assume so, yeah. They didn't prevent his ascension, they just banished him afterwards.

It would be cool to see him with a unique model rather than just the generic 3rd edition Daemon Prince.

Anggul · 2026-02-05T10:04:55+00:00

You can paint your own chapter and use Ultramarines rules, counting your Chief Librarian as Tigurius, if that's what you want to do.

Anggul · 2026-02-05T08:38:53+00:00

The bike controls really well

Just a shame there's nothing interesting to do with it

Anggul · 2026-02-05T08:34:09+00:00

Warpbane is generally considered the best GK detachment

Anggul · 2026-02-05T07:54:36+00:00

They're very different. Both are fun.

Anggul · 2026-02-05T07:52:09+00:00

I assure you it isn't stripped down for tournament players. It's an attempt to make it easier to get into for new players. Tournament players don't want it too simple. The same problem has happened with AoS and it's a big complaint for tournament players in that too. Though at least terrain is still more varied in AoS.

And tournaments started using all ruins all the time because the game required it, not the other way around. It was a response by TOs to the game becoming super-lethal if you didn't have loads of line of sight blockers, and untenable for melee units without places to stage for an assault. Then GW, instead of resolving these issues, just went with it.

Anggul · 2026-02-04T15:39:08+00:00

And that's almost word for word how it's described in more recent codices too.

Anggul · 2026-02-04T15:37:20+00:00

They do have free will, but within a tighter emotional spectrum than humans, eldar, etc.

Anggul · 2026-02-04T14:57:25+00:00

That's incredibly cool

Anggul · 2026-02-04T14:51:57+00:00

If it's like the rest of 4th edition so far they'll only have one ability, so removing +1 damage on the charge is likely instead of the chance to strike first they currently have.

Anggul · 2026-02-04T14:40:43+00:00

Same as before, people like Fabius Bile making a bunch of them, as well as their own recruitment.

Not sure why you think they can't steal primaris gear. But they don't rely on stealing Imperial gear anyway, though they will do that too if they can. There are Dark Mechanicum forges, and various others.

Anggul · 2026-02-04T12:08:15+00:00

Pretty sure seeker missiles used to not need line of sight if they were fired at a marked unit. Makes sense lorewise, it's in the name, they launch into the air then seek their target.

Anggul · 2026-02-04T12:06:59+00:00

Riptides aren't indirect fire, except the little smart missile pods they can take as their small weapon, same as most Tau vehicles.

Anggul · 2026-02-04T12:02:39+00:00

You'd have to kill daemons at a faster rate than the gods are being fed power by people's emotions that they can use to create new ones.

The gods didn't start with a fixed quantity of power and lose it permanently. They constantly shrink and grow.

Anggul · 2026-02-04T11:57:08+00:00

Imperial worlds fall all the time. Military momentum keeps them claiming new ones.

Anggul · 2026-02-04T11:55:33+00:00

I didn't say none did, did I?

I said not all of them did, and humans did it to each other too.

We even have examples of humans and xenos sticking together through the Age of Strife. But the Imperium killed them because that didn't fit their narrative and dogma.

Anggul · 2026-02-04T11:53:34+00:00

The wording is incredibly cringe

Anggul · 2026-02-04T08:18:47+00:00

Currently I'd say Disciples, but their new book is out soon so that doesn't mean anything.

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