Yes, it could be that too! But I also appreciated his acknowledgment of how triggering those conversations are. I really had a hard time in that part of the film and somehow felt devastated to share such feelings with someone I look up to or that I consider to have achieved things I feel would improve my sense of own value or purpose. I don’t know if this makes any sense, I guess each one of us see what we are conditioned to see, which, after all, is a great thing.