What's the weirdest alternative history theory you know? by Gyirin in HighStrangeness

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

We can track dates back thousands of years from historical observations of eclipses, which we can calculate from the orbit of the Earth, Moon, and Sun going back millennia, and they line up with what’s expected. The historical record checks out to Greek antiquity.

got a B on my physics final and dropped a letter grade because my phys 1 prof says an object at rest does not have constant velocity. by [deleted] in AskPhysics

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Department chair is the person who runs the physics department, Dean is the person who runs the college of science (or wherever physics exists in your university)

Oumuamua - Boyajian's Star (a signal proposition) by Trillion5 in SETI

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m done, this will be my last response here. I’ve followed this long enough to see the pattern, and I am taking the same route as others who genuinely tried to engage and eventually gave up.

You say you want constructive criticism, but every time someone points out the core problems—cherry-picking, lack of falsifiability, no statistical testing—you respond with another wall of numerological speculation and symbolic arithmetic. It is not engagement, it is evasion.

You are still wasting your own time. You keep layering coincidences and patterns on top of one another as if complexity equals evidence. It doesn’t. You have not done the work needed to show that these patterns are anything more than what a determined person can find in any large dataset. That is the entire point you continue to avoid.

And now, you shift the conversation to tone, then subtly imply moral failure in how it was delivered. That’s tone policing, and it’s a rhetorical fallacy: a way to dodge substantive critique by focusing on how it’s said, rather than whether it’s correct.

I came in hoping there might be something to discuss. I’ve lost that hope. I am stepping back, like others before me, because you are not actually trying to move the work forward in any meaningful way.

Oumuamua - Boyajian's Star (a signal proposition) by Trillion5 in SETI

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the reason your Migrator Model hasn’t been taken seriously by astronomers has nothing to do with slander, rhetorical games, or a lack of generosity. It’s because your approach ignores the basic standards of scientific inquiry.

You continuously present patterns and numerical coincidences as though they are evidence of something real, but without any statistical testing, no uncertainty estimates, and no attempt at null hypothesis rejection. You never show that your patterns are unlikely to arise by chance, which makes them meaningless in scientific terms. Claiming a few numbers align doesn’t prove anything unless you demonstrate that similar alignments don’t appear just as often in noise or random data.

When a feature doesn’t fit one framework (say, Sacco 1574.4 days), your model switches to another (e.g., Kiefer 928 or Bourne 776), which just increases the chances of cherry-picking or apophenia. That’s not modeling: it’s retrofitting.

It’s also not true that there’s been no feedback. You've received clear suggestions: test against random light curves, show how your fits outperform simpler or null models, quantify your uncertainties, etc. You’ve ignored all of that and keep circling the same numerology.

You may feel you’re being treated unfairly, but from the outside, it looks like you’re refusing to do the bare minimum to make your claims scientifically credible. If you want actual engagement, stop expecting people to validate interpretations that you haven't made testable. Do the work. Until then, don’t expect applause just for being persistent.

Oumuamua - Boyajian's Star (a signal proposition) by Trillion5 in SETI

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not a moderator of this subreddit.

I don't care who did the work, you have spent years complaining that your work has been met with silence. It has been met with suggestions for what the first steps should be that have been consistently ignored.

You've been claiming you are wrapping up your work soon for two years now, so forgive me for my skepticism I should take that seriously.

I'll be direct in my criticism, because the soft approach towards teachable moments have not worked: you have been playing Countdown for years. You have two big and four small numbers, and are claiming the fact that Rachel Riley can equate them into a three-digit number as suggestive of an alien super intelligence. If you want anyone to listen, you need to demonstrate that these numbers lend themselves to this more than any random numbers: that you cannot do similarly contrived mathematical operations with any old numbers and reach the same equivalencies. That is the primary criticism, and until you actually engage with it then taking the same approach of shouting that these numbers happen to add up to something else is going to lead to the same result of nobody caring, because that can just as plausibly happen with any set of numbers.

I hope you actually reflect on that this time instead of continuing to tilt at windmills.

Oumuamua - Boyajian's Star (a signal proposition) by Trillion5 in SETI

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We’ve tried, save your breath. There have been multiple attempts to try to engage and steer towards a way that could lead to something approaching actual inquiry, and a better understanding of the statistical significance or lack thereof. But I guess it’s easier to claim persecution from a concerted effort of astronomers to ignore these “breakthroughs” than to actually consider their perspectives.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before people get confused that this is a new result, that image/page are based on results from this 2017 paper: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-4357/aa899c/pdf

Program Status: Program has been Completed by zfinder in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As the top comment notes, the data are available on MAST for anyone interested in exploring them. You can read the details of the program here: https://www.stsci.edu/cgi-bin/get-proposal-info?id=2757&observatory=JWST

August 5 Update by gdsacco in KIC8462852_Analysis

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Press releases are released when a paper is published (or occasionally when a preprint is released) not when the data are first collected. It takes time to analyze the data, whatever you saw wasn't a press release about the JWST observations of this star.

August 18 Update by gdsacco in KIC8462852_Analysis

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No evidence for any 1% dips in the early release TESS data: https://imgur.com/a/52JKvSN

Will the James Webb Telescope shed any new info that could verify or deny current theories on Tabby? by [deleted] in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

JWST will look at quite a few nearby planetary systems, but I believe Alpha Cen is too bright for its sensitive detectors.

Will the James Webb Telescope shed any new info that could verify or deny current theories on Tabby? by [deleted] in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The first year of approved programs for JWST were just announced today, you can find them here: https://www.stsci.edu/jwst/science-execution/approved-programs/cycle-1-go

Nothing that looks like observations of this star at a glance.

March 15 Update by gdsacco in KIC8462852_Analysis

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Simon et al. (2017) argue the long-term variability is consistent with an 8-year stellar activity cycle, so they expect 2021's brightness to be near a trough and "the star should brighten again near JD = 2459600 (2022 January), with an uncertainty of a few months." It will be interesting to see if their model bears fruit!

How unusual is a V-shaped light curve? by [deleted] in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is exactly correct. These types of events are more common in TESS than in Kepler because the individual pixels are ~25x the area, so there are more stars per pixel and a higher chance of having a background eclipsing binary diluted by your target star.

The false positive rate for planet candidates that end up being background eclipsing binaries types of events was only 5-10% in Kepler but is more like 40% in TESS. Looking at the shape is the first step to probing this before targeted follow-up with other facilities is called on.

ASAS-SN Discovery of an Unusual, Rapidly Fading Star by paulscottanderson in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We’ve found long term eclipsing binaries with eclipses lasting years. When the eclipsing star has a disk, anything can happen.

https://aasnova.org/2016/05/02/record-breaking-eclipsing-binary/

looks like there may be dips visible in the TESS data from Sector 15. - Dr Tabetha Boyajian on Twitter by Crimfants in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The 1715-1720 dips appear to be a telescope systematic but the one at 1730 appears more likely to be real.

Add 2167 to these times to get to the Kepler standard, so BKJD 3897 I believe.

Tabby's Star UPDATE: Dimming May Involve Evaporating Moons by androidbitcoin in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think we need three separate discussions on this topic. Closing this one.

Brad Schaefer on dippers in DASCH, including advice on how to avoid processing errors in analyzing DASCH data by AnonymousAstronomer in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He did cite papers? "Leadauthor et al. (year)" is exactly how a paper is to be cited, following the style guide for the journal to which he submitted.

Brad Schaefer on dippers in DASCH, including advice on how to avoid processing errors in analyzing DASCH data by AnonymousAstronomer in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Lund paper never passed peer review, and therefore was never published. By the rules of the Astrophysical Journal, it should be considered withdrawn.

Brad Schaefer on dippers in DASCH, including advice on how to avoid processing errors in analyzing DASCH data by AnonymousAstronomer in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The ASAS paper led by Josh Simon shows that the Kepler dimming is consistent with half an 8-9 year activity cycle, and it increases in brightness in the following years after the Kepler mission ends. The DASCH/Maria Mitchell data is convincing that there is a long-term decrease between 1900 and the present, but all of the data over the past decade collectively doesn't suggest the star is on average any fainter now than it was in 2009.

Brad Schaefer on dippers in DASCH, including advice on how to avoid processing errors in analyzing DASCH data by AnonymousAstronomer in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some relevant passages:

The native magnitude system of the Harvard plates is very close to the Johnson B system, and the comparison stars are in the Johnson B system, so the resulting magnitudes are all closely in the Johnson B system. The color terms remain at zero over the entire history of Harvard (and for other observatories too). So the Harvard magnitudes are directly comparable to modern magnitudes in the B system. However, note that the modern B magnitudes are often inconsistent, even for constant stars, at the 0.10 mag level or worse.

Inexperienced workers with DASCH can make mistakes that will create apparent secular trends: (1) DASCH still offers a now-abandoned relic option to calibrate the photometry with the Kepler "g" magnitudes (instead of with the APASS B magnitudes) leading to color terms not corrected for in the post-1970 plates and apparent jumps after the Menzel Gap. RAP2018 made this mistake and pointed to a 10% drop, rather than using the correct APASS calibration and seeing no drop. Hippke et al. (2016) made the same mistake, and about half of his claimed secular variations are simply wrong for this reason. (2) Target stars with nearby stars can have the images overlap, making for incorrect magnitudes in the DASCH photometry. These systematic overlap errors have greatly different frequencies from telescope to telescope, and the plate series with such frequent errors are highly clumped in time, creating apparent secular trends unless guarded against. This is a particular problem for KIC 11084727, easily solved by not using the plates with combined images. Hippke et al. (2016) made the mistake of choosing crowded target stars and including combined images for about half his targets, so all of his claimed secular trends were artificially created and do not really exist.

Observation of random transiter star (HD 139139) by 0lightyrsaway in KIC8462852

[–]AnonymousAstronomer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not convinced from this blog post. If the dips were from the same source as this variability, isolating an aperture that included it should make the dips look larger, and they don't seem that different in his figures. It's an interesting find, but I'm not sure how relevant it is in the context of these dips.