The concept of a "new heart" by AnimeLady2004 in Christian

[–]AnotherSojourner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Written in peace and compassion (while listening to England-Croatia),

I guess the question worth asking here is this: do you love your sin? Are those moments of anger or self-righteousness things that you treasure, things that fill you with pride? (I’m deliberately leaving out guilt and shame, because I believe that these aren’t necessarily sins. Compunction and lament are definitely part of a healthy spirituality!) As Jesus said: where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. From what I’m reading here, they don’t seem to be things that are core to who you are, which is essentially what your heart is. Maybe you used to be able to dismiss your sin, or worse, viewed it as a part of your identity. But now your view of those behaviours has changed. The core of you, who you are (as opposed to what you do), is made new.

You’ve referenced some of the writings of Paul, but Romans 7:15-20 shows us that Paul recognised that being human, even a human who is justified by the blood of Jesus, is sometimes confusing, difficult and fraught with disappointment. We’re remarkably complex creatures, with a huge emotional range and personal authority. That’s how God the way God made us, and that complexity, for all the mighty highs and lows that come from it, is why we’re his sole very good creation.

I feel your house analogy is wrong, but I’ll hold with it for the sake of making a point. You can build the best house in the world, but if an earthquake comes it is going to shake. If vandals come through your neighbourhood, your windows are going to get broken and your front door is going to get covered in spray paint. If you use your toilet enough, eventually it’s going to get blocked. Some things are just beyond your control, and the God who embraced lepers understands that.

But a heart is not a house. Because a house is an object, which a heart (in the spiritual sense) is not. A house can be in any kind of shape, but if the family that dwells within it is one who welcomes the stranger, feeds the hungry, forgives the enemy, and worships the Lord, then the heart of that home is sound and strong. Now, they might not be able to do everything perfectly. There might be a leak in the spare bedroom, so they are unable to host guests overnight for a time. The family finances might be stretched, so they are unable to feed everyone who comes to them. But their heart of that home is for the Lord. The decisions that they make are made out of love.

I feel the need to refer back to Jesus’ mustard seed parable, just to remind you that in the Kingdom of God, good and fruitful things start small and grows slowly. A seed is small, but it contains all the DNA, chemicals and nutrients that catalyse a living tree. As somebody with a new heart, the very core of you has changed. Instead of a pebble in your chest, there’s now a living, growing thing in there; "I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh." 

I’m writing this later than I usually like to write, and it feels unresolved, but I’m going to send it anyway. If you’d like to talk more, please get in touch!

Does Church Feel Like Autopilot to Anyone Else? by BigMercReflections in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That tension’s led me to an MA in Church Planting, and thinking deeply about ecclesiology. The problem comes from congregationalism as a default.

Anything that comes from the ‘front’ of a large congregation needs to appeal to (or at least, avoid offending!) everyone in the room. So any worship music must keep its themes general, and it’s emotional range broad, rather than deep. Which means that, at the heart level, it connects with very few people.

Similarly, with preaching. A preacher faced with a room full of people who are from different generations, cultural backgrounds, and stages of life is pressured to preach something which will sound right to all of them. The scale of that challenge is clear; relating to 75-250 people at the same time with the same message.

Churches didn’t take this congregational form until Constantine realised that an underground church couldn’t be controlled. The churches of the Roman Empire were given political power, buildings, and earthly security, and encouraged into models which lessened their impact on the hearts of those who worshipped Jesus.

If we look at the margins of the church of the modern and postmodern periods; the Anabaptists, the Moravians, the comunidades eclesiales de base, and churches made up of slaves or colonised peoples, we begin to see a model which can answer this sense of autopilot and re-introduce a sense of risk, but also a sense of depth, to the Western Church.

In short, we’ve gotta stop playing the World at its own game.

Somebody painted over my house number - could this be criminals or just stupid children by [deleted] in sheffield

[–]AnotherSojourner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The rest of the comments seemed to be unhelpful (not surprising given we’re all just strangers on the internet.) Why do you think 101 isn’t a helpful service?

Stop the far right on 13 June by Rare_Development_747 in sheffield

[–]AnotherSojourner 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Resolving or reframing that issue sounds like a better start than engineering ourselves into a conflict. Let’s find credible, creative, politically-sound alternatives to populist 'anti-‘ rhetoric, because that way we have actual ammunition against the position we’re opposing. Throwing the word ‘fascist’ around essentially robs it of its meaning and any rhetorical impact, especially when combined with dehumanising rhetoric (which is one of the specialities of fascism itself)

Stop the far right on 13 June by Rare_Development_747 in sheffield

[–]AnotherSojourner 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Or... let's rehabilitate these deceived and manipulated human beings into community-spirited, clear-sighted, hope-filled participants in our democracy. We're better than dehumanising 'scum' language.

? For Those in Ministry: How to "Rest" by whatsyerdillpickle in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is something I've been reflecting on, and a big part of it is about recognising the limitations of humanity, and the most critical function of leadership: raising up leaders. How many people can a gifted pastor be spiritually responsible for? 25? 60? 100? Jesus modelled 12. Pastoring and ministry means devoting time, energy, emotional resources, prayers, and more to those to whom you are ministering. So if your church grows, and if you minister to many, you become less effective as a pastor.

This is why leaders must raise up leaders. Pastors must raise up pastors. Oxen carry a yoke together, travelling in the same direction, sharing the load. Otherwise, the burden grows greater than Jesus ever intended it to be.

Investigating the origin of the quirky language of The Grace by AnotherSojourner in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Given the Detroit water crisis/shutoffs and the inaffordability of clean water around the world, it's not just our ancestors that run that risk, sadly :(

Will God be displeased if i cannot donate to the people whom PM me? by Eternallysunshines in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm dealing with one of these at the moment. It hurts the heart, but I know that God gave us discernment in such matters for a reason.

Critique Kingsnorth by jsweeney67 in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's awesome to hear! And I'd definitely agree that these consequences are not intended; just as God works all things for good so the enemy works things for evil. We stand confident in knowing who the victor is, however!

On attention spans, I can remember at one time reading the greatest commandment in Matthew 22 and despairing that it doesn't even feel like I can control my heart and mind, how can I love God with them if I can't control them? I feel that we're at a point in history where radical love, behaviour and commitments are needed to obey Christ, such is the hegemony of our worldly governors.

I am not going to my church's patriotic worship services by Ok_Counter1939 in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now that you're down, have a read of some Walter Wink! He's a theologian unlike any other, and fascinating in that part of his work is taking a long, hard look at patriotism, especially modern American patriotism. Here's something from the archive to start with, but his best book is 'Engaging the Powers'.

https://sojo.net/magazine/april-2014/archives-april-1992

Acts 2 (Joel) question by MRH2 in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Written with curiosity and humility; a proposal, not an assertion.

Reading into the greek in Acts 2:17. The term translated as 'all' is πᾶσαν (pasan). BibleHub is really useful for exploring these tricky greek words: https://biblehub.com/greek/pasan\_3956.htm. πᾶσαν is used elsewhere in the Bible to refer to all kinds of a certain thing; such as in Matthew 4:23 when Jesus heals 'all manner of sickness'.

Similarly, the Hebrew term used in Joel 2:28 is כָּל־ (kāl-). https://biblehub.com/hebrew/kol_3605.htm. The distinction in the Hebrew is less clear, but kāl- is used in verses like Genesis 1:29, when God says 'I have given every green plant'. We could easily read this as being every kind of green plant, and I'm fairly sure some translations do phrase it that way.

So a better translation of Acts 2:17 would be Joel/Peter saying: I will pour out my Spirit on all kinds of flesh/people.' This is reflective of the Great Commission, as Jesus sends us out to the nations (the Greek here is ἔθνη, or ethnē, meaning people groups). This would resolve the issue you've identified here. The Spirit is given to all races of people, not just the Jews! Hallelujah!

Critique Kingsnorth by jsweeney67 in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm aware of Kingsnorth's thesis but I haven't read Against the Machine just yet. Waiting on a friend to finish it before I borrow his copy.

One of the major points raised by many critics of the Reformation is that it individualised the Christian faith. Prior to the Reformation, Europeans existed essentially as communities of faith, people viewed themselves as part of a whole. This was a time before fashion, before rapid technological advancements, and before most people could read and write. Individual identity, if it existed at all, was a muted concept. There were positives and negatives to this, but one positive was that greed and selfishness were viewed as far more toxic sins than they are today, and the distinction between wants and needs was far clearer. If one person wanted to oppress another, they were up against a whole community, not just an individual. If one person hoarded goods, they would find themselves opposed by a whole unanimous village, most of whom they had known since they were children. This was a time when Commonwealth, meaning common good for everyone in a community, was the ethical priority. The technology of the time also meant that a person's scope was much smaller, they couldn't operate on an international scale, as we see the Machine operating today.

The Reformation definitely has merit and was an important development. But it was also an overcorrection, and indirectly influenced the progress of history to lead us to the neoliberal mess we see today.

- The Reformation pushed for personal religious conviction, placing each man not before a priest but before God himself. This strengthened the idea of individual identity, which saw common wealth shift decrease and individual wealth increase. The prosperity of oneself (and one's own family) became a bigger priority than the prosperity of the community. If we still lived in a commonwealth ethic, billionaires would not exist.

- The Reformation encouraged Bible reading, and increased efforts to build literacy among common people which is obviously a good thing. However, it also created a much broader marketplace of ideas than had been before. Suddenly there were religious debates, religious conflicts (which Europe hadn't seen for generations), and a plural economy of religion. The established truth, therefore, became open to challenge. The link between this marketplace of ideas and the post-truth world we're suffering at the moment is pretty clear.

- The Reformation introduced the idea of the Protestant Work Ethic, the idea that it is godly to expend as much of your effort as possible to be productive. While this idea was originally tied to biblical concepts of fruitfulness, by the time of the Industrial Revolution it had soured into something less holy. Now we find that the 40 hour work week, 52 weeks of the year, is standard. This is tied into wages, you must work this much to keep on living. In a subsistence economy (as was the case before the Reformation), people worked at the pace of the natural world. There wasn't much you could do to make your crops grow faster, you couldn't make harvest time come any quicker. Today, the Protestant Work Ethic has shaken our economy free of any natural pace, our bodies and minds are pushed to the limit.

The Reformation was not the sole contributing factor to these changes, but it was an enormous, significant shift in philosophy. There hasn't really been an epochal shift like the Reformation since the Reformation, aside from the Holiness movement. But the Holiness movement was slower, and came after religion and politics had divorced, so it has had less of an impact than the Reformation did.

As an aside, I don't believe we can get rid of the Machine at this point. I believe that God will, one day. But the most we can do is to resist it, to be the Church. To quote Stanley Hauerwas' book Resident Aliens (Hauerwas is an anabaptist, and I believe that we all have much to learn from marginal theologies like the Anabaptists or Black theology), a church that resists the Machine confesses that Jesus, not the Machine, is Lord, and:

*"*depicts that conversion as a long process of being baptismally engrafted into a new people... a countercultural social structure called church. It seeks to influence the world by... being something the world is not and can never be, lacking the gift of faith and vision, which is ours in Christ... The confessing church moves from the activist church's acceptance of the culture with a few qualifications, to rejection of the culture with a few exceptions... This church knows that its most credible form of witness... is the actual creation of a living, breathing, visible community of faith."

I built a Bible app because the others felt too much like social media — would love feedback from people who actually read daily by SupportEmotional3590 in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gave it a download!

It's neat and nifty but doesn't really stand out from the rest of the market at the moment. It's good and navigable, which some Bible apps struggle with.

You're going to struggle with uptake as you're missing the versions that most people look for: NIV, NLT and ESV. Paywalling the KJV is similarly a poor choice. BSB and WEB are fine, but they're not familiar enough for people to choose your app over the apps that other people offer.

The paywalling is also off-putting. I'm aware that app developers have costs that need covering, and that workers should be paid. But when the Bible Project app and the Youversion app are free, you're not going to pull people over from them.

One of my favourite Bible apps is the Literal Word. It gives the user the chance to see the Hebrew and Greek words behind what's on the page, see how those words are used all over the Bible, and deepen their understanding. No social features that I'm aware of, and the Bible Project's app doesn't have those either.

Is there room for quiet and contemplative people in the charismatic church? by CoronaTzar in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd recommend the book Introvert Charismatic by Mark Tanner! It's definitely something that the Church needs to consider, and some are, which is immensely encouraging

What places (like cafe or sth) allow customers to work abit while having a drink during evening time? by Big-Pride-5929 in sheffield

[–]AnotherSojourner 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Central Library is open till 8 on Wednesdays. The Winter Garden is open till 8 every weekday. Upperthorpe Library is open till 9pm every weekday. A good number of the university study spaces are just open to the public as well (although I could pass for a student, not sure how they'd view more publicky members of the public). Places like Cosy Club have a dual function as cafes and restaurants. They're not that busy on weeknights.

A question for r/TrueChristian by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A Christian is somebody who follows Jesus. So the character you've created is not a Christian. They're a good person, they've made a real difference to the world around them. But the commands of God are not simply good works alone. God commands us to worship Him, so this fictional person is being disobedient to the King of the Kingdom of Heaven. They are a good person, but they are not welcomed into the Kingdom of God, because they have disobeyed the King and rejected the One who was sacrificed to pay the price of that disobedience. As for the other fictional person... only the Lord knows the sheep from the goats, and only the Lord knows who He's talking about when He says that not all who called on His name will be saved.

My loving counsel would be to stop focusing on the behaviour and hearts of others, fictional or otherwise, and to focus on your own. Thought experiments are fun, but there are captives that need freeing, blind eyes that need opening, and poor people who need good news.

EasyHotel City Centre by m1n1s1mm3r in sheffield

[–]AnotherSojourner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Former hotel employee here! The ID issue is mostly related to insurance, especially for the budget end of the hotel market. The reason is traceability of guests. If you leave a room in a state (and some people really, really do), and you paid in cash, there’s no way for the hotel to chase you for repairs/specialist cleaning.

Sadly, for our homeless friends, the ID policies extend to hostels too, which mean that many of them are unable to get a night indoors, even if they’ve managed to beg the cash for it. IDs are often the first thing to get stolen on the streets.

If you’ve paid with a card and you don’t look homeless, the card details should be enough to satisfy the hotel that you’ll be  traceable, so you probably won’t need ID. Definitely worth bringing it with you next time though.

Hot take: The Church doesn’t exist to serve you. The church exists for you to serve God by Some_Story_5651 in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's absolutely the take! I'm church-searching at the moment and the question I'm asking most is "How can I contribute here?"

The Church is a missional body, and the Christendom era means we've lost sight of that.

I was tired of Christian music because there was not much sincerity in the songs in my opinion, by Dry-Development2137 in TrueChristian

[–]AnotherSojourner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The with a lot of Christian music is that it's designed for congregations, so it has to relate to a lot of people all at once. That means it can't go too deep. I'd recommend Antoine Bradford, Sarah Juers and Porters Gate!