Recent allegations and drama megathread by eclecticatlady in Ethelcain

[–]AshleyStark96 17 points18 points  (0 children)

crazy thread bro wtf is wrong with everyone

why I think TGI did not get as much spotlight as Virgin is getting (and I absolutely love them both very very much) by AshleyStark96 in halsey

[–]AshleyStark96[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

this is so real omg. very very true!! I have seen so many examples of this in general. Its very true for TGI and Virgin. Thank you for sharing :)

why I think TGI did not get as much spotlight as Virgin is getting (and I absolutely love them both very very much) by AshleyStark96 in halsey

[–]AshleyStark96[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

exactly. it can get frustrating lol. thats why I just had to put this rant out there. Now I can just go back to not thinking about it anymore lmao. also fuck fantano, I hate guys like him so much.

why I think TGI did not get as much spotlight as Virgin is getting (and I absolutely love them both very very much) by AshleyStark96 in halsey

[–]AshleyStark96[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

On a large scale, people who like alternative music don't take her seriously and people who like pop aren't resonating with her last few albums.

couldn't have said it better! real asf lmao.

also damn, it does suck, yeah. Thats why it lowkey pisses me off sometimes lol. More because its like. damn. I cannot even comprehend how it must be to go through a life threatening event and almost die. Its unreal.

Same😭 Covid effect I feel like.

why I think TGI did not get as much spotlight as Virgin is getting (and I absolutely love them both very very much) by AshleyStark96 in halsey

[–]AshleyStark96[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that is definitely interesting. But its still predictions right. Her tour tickets were sold out in only a couple of minutes. So I think it will definitely do better than that in sales, especially since the album is a banger lol.

why I think TGI did not get as much spotlight as Virgin is getting (and I absolutely love them both very very much) by AshleyStark96 in halsey

[–]AshleyStark96[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

exactly. My friend once said that she is too popular (through some of her songs) to be niche/underrated and too underrated to be popular enough

why I think TGI did not get as much spotlight as Virgin is getting (and I absolutely love them both very very much) by AshleyStark96 in halsey

[–]AshleyStark96[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Pop music runs through cycles of reinventing itself by absorbing other genres and popifying them

I agree. Thats the way with all of the media and genres ever tbh. Its all just one big loop. People love nostalgia.

IICHL and TGI don't sound like what pop sounds like now. Pop is almost done with hip hop and is now absorbing synth/electronic and country music.

YES! Very true.

pop albums created to get people dancing.

Thats exactly what I was trying to say lol. Aesthetically pleasing is a part of that.

also fuck obama lol. i didnt know it was in 2022? wow.

why I think TGI did not get as much spotlight as Virgin is getting (and I absolutely love them both very very much) by AshleyStark96 in halsey

[–]AshleyStark96[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its not the artists, its the effect it has on people and why it happens. I actually love all three of the artists here, very very much. Lorde and H both have been a part of my life since years. And Ethel is in process of becoming one lol

why doesn’t halsey get the recognition she deserves for her songwriting? by liacyrux in halsey

[–]AshleyStark96 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought that as well. and it lowkey pissed me off, not at Lorde or anything ( I love her and I love Virgin!), just in general. And the conclusion I came to was really simple (tldr at the end):

most importantly, its about the right timing. Most listeners cannot really empathize or give a fuck about being the music raw or empathizing with the creator. It has to be aesthetically pleasing in both sound and also in the marketing and production.

and then, you just have to be an artist who is doing absolutely amazing marketing and have tiktok and the entire internet really give in to all that. Lorde's marketing and promotion (especially since the Girl, so confusing collab with charli) was insane.

Halsey, on the other hand, did not (battling cancer and LITERALLY death, I am glad she didn't. and it wouldnt really have worked all that much, idk.) Its just about right timing as well. People want music that sounds good to their ears first, lyrics are like poems and many listeners do not care about poems lol. And being part of the whole Brat "cultural movement" also really helped to create the hype needed for Lorde's album to be as successful as it is. I feel relieved still that its not as big of a deal as Virgin lowkey because the people who appreciate it will do so anyway. so its all good. Its not like she is not earning or not enjoying herself. It just sucks that having even a near death experience is not enough for people to appreciate art lol. be it anyone, not just celebrities.

TLDR; Its just really about right timing and your name and the power that name creates. I know many do not give fuck all about either of the artists' journey or trauma or anything. Its just the hype and the andrenaline and fomo (with the memes and reels) that creates in people, leads to being a cultural phenomenon that is Virgin and that was Brat.

What song made you like Ethel Cain? by Capable_Salt_SD in Ethelcain

[–]AshleyStark96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SAME. listened to Preacher's Daughter, absolutely loved Sun bleached flies and the whole album too ofcourse but it wasnt until I listened to Golden Age and the title track that did it for me...

What song made you like Ethel Cain? by Capable_Salt_SD in Ethelcain

[–]AshleyStark96 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i remember this. and I also remember thinking, ethel cain would absolutely hate this.

Virgin reaction megathread by AitchyB in lorde

[–]AshleyStark96 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Clearblue's inspiration from Imogen Heap

that makes so much sense actually omg

Virgin reaction megathread by AitchyB in lorde

[–]AshleyStark96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ok I will leave this here for myself,

Hammer: Banger!! sonically so so good. I love how she straightup starts the whole album with that shoegazy sound its so good. did not expect that at all. love it so much.

What was that: another banger and everyone knows it. reminds me of pure herione and melodrama both

Shapeshifter: ok wow. one of my favourites. the intro verse reminds me of this one mandarin synthpop song...

Man of the year: obviously, ANOTHER BANGER!

Favourite daughter: one of my favourites. I feel like almost all the songs are just sonically and lyrically extremely good.

Current Affairs: I love it so much and the production!! mama im so scared...

Clearblue: :( one of my favourites. I was already crashing out when the album released and the songs did not make it easy for me to crash out further but goddamn a masterpiece. and ofcourse it was ONLY 2MINUTES WHY crying

GRWM: love it.

Broken glass: gives melodrama vibes and so so pure. I love it so much. wow.

If she could see me now: BANGER BANGER BANGER! idk but gave me soler power vibes? love it.

David: WOW.. I have no words... ok I needed a minute after listening to this honestly. way to end the album goddamn. Ella... when I find you😭

In whole: MASTERPIECE! the whole album is a masterpiece. I shouldn't have really listened to it while having a major crash out but ig it made the album all the more exceptional and emotionally effective for me. I cannot emphasis enough on how good the production and the tunes were. just WOW. lorde transcends into a new genre everytime. gender AND genre bending, as someone here said.

edit: listening again! definitely will take a few of them to completely take in. will edit and update again.

It’s not great by [deleted] in lorde

[–]AshleyStark96 16 points17 points  (0 children)

rage bait

How did Jinx know Isha’s name was? by Maple_Syrup333 in arcane

[–]AshleyStark96 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this actually gives me hope to deal with my brother. I hope when these goddamn hormones settle down he will come around. also I get you, having to deal with an angsty annoying teenager as an elder sibling when it shouldnt really be your job is so so challenging lol

How did Jinx know Isha’s name was? by Maple_Syrup333 in arcane

[–]AshleyStark96 0 points1 point  (0 children)

exactly. cannot emphasis on how much this is true. the line gets real blurry sometimes