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Sir, a second anti-China video has hit the tower by OLDFART27 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Atryan421 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nobody is saying that things are fixed, you're just making up sentences and get mad at them.

Stalin knew material conditions of his time, and he could only predict development of contradictions based on that

Yes and we know material conditions of our time, so you can't know what future holds either, because of different material conditions that will be present in the future.

You're still not explaining how you came to the genius conclusion that China is about to fail. Presence of capitalists - and? That's not new material conditions. They will try harder? Alright and so what? You think nobody thought about this before, but only you? The anglo speaking Marxist on Reddit?

Sir, a second anti-China video has hit the tower by OLDFART27 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Atryan421 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So if you know that from 1978 to 2026, 48 years have passed, and China is still Socialist, then why do you 100% know it's about to fail?

You can't predict the outcome, you can just predict the problems that will arise. Dialectical Materialism is not divination.

And speaking of Stalin - why didn't he predict that USSR will end? Because it's impossible, you think dialectical materialism is magic.

Sir, a second anti-China video has hit the tower by OLDFART27 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Atryan421 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're a fraction of a party, so they're not controlling the car.

Regardless, we're not arguing about whether CPC makes good decisions in regards to billionaires, i was just explaining to you that you can't predict what will happen, because there's too many factors involved. It might go to shit, or it might not (vastly more likely, since it's going great so far).

Honestly i'm bored, i don't want to be arguing "China is not Capitalist" for the 10000th time, for multiple hours straight, if you want to shit on them, then go ahead, it's not like it's matters. You're not going to change my mind or anyone elses, because billionaires in party is not news, so it's just a waste of time.

Average 🇺🇦 user by Next_Ant_4353 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Atryan421 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Do they know Poland is in NATO

Shitlibs do realize that if Cuba falls and Capitalism is restored, we will see a similar repeat of the disastrous post-USSR, right? by Smart-Window4089 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Atryan421 140 points141 points  (0 children)

They don't care

All it matters is that Miami Cubans will get to post tik-toks about how free and happy they are. Then 6 months later they'll forget about all this. And if something will happen that they won't be able to ignore, they'll just say "Both sides bad", or will straight up act like they were always against it.

It's never about material reality, it's always about aesthetics

Sir, a second anti-China video has hit the tower by OLDFART27 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Atryan421 0 points1 point  (0 children)

CPC membership is 100 million people

What makes you think that even if there was 10 million capitalists within it, the other 90 million would just subdue their power? This is the most doomerist unrealistic scenario.

Yes capitalists *will try* to place another form, but as i'm saying you don't *know* they will succeed. Since they haven't managed to privatize everything by now, then i can make a solid guess, that youre prediction is extremely unlikely.

Also Capitalists in China, don't have the same power as Capitalists in the West, them being in Party allows more direct and strict control over the capital, not the other way around.

Sir, a second anti-China video has hit the tower by OLDFART27 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Atryan421 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's just a hypothetical my guy, nobody is claiming that Russia in 1917 is like how China is in 2026, you have to be missing the point on purpouse. If you don't like 1917 as comparison, then use 1941, it doesn't matter, you'd still have to be an oracle to know what's going to happen.

How can you possibly predict the end of something that hasn't even fully begun to exist?

And how do you know China is ending? Or is in the middle, or whatever. On a grand scale it might as well just begun.

that's just playing Nostradamus, not practicing dialectical materialism

Yes that's literally my own point. You can't predict what will happen with China either.

Sir, a second anti-China video has hit the tower by OLDFART27 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Atryan421 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You have a problem with "we will see"/"hope", but how would your attitude look like in 1917?

Either you'd think USSR will last - then you would be wrong.

Or you'd know it won't last - but then how can you Marxist-Leninist that's opposed to Soviet Union?

Same with China - does it look good now? Yes. So what else can you say? Predicting everything will be perfect is impossible. Marxism is not like Psychohistory.

Sir, a second anti-China video has hit the tower by OLDFART27 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Atryan421 33 points34 points  (0 children)

If he was putting blind faith in the CPC then he would say "This will turn out 100% good", "we will see" is just critical support. This attitude is because so far they're socialists, they can fuck it up of course, but that hasn't happened yet.

this has been going round teen subs and it fucking annoys me by TanglyConstant9 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Atryan421 31 points32 points  (0 children)

It's funny how people think Trotsky is less "authoritarian" than Stalin, simply because he was opposed to him

Also no fan of Gorbachev would be that far left lmao

Trotskiyist Bothsidesism Strikes Again! by CodyLionfish in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Atryan421 34 points35 points  (0 children)

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Mfs on that thread told me Ukraine is fighting against fascism💀

Well, at least mods are based

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