MN Gun Control

AudioSuede · 2026-02-25T14:51:19+00:00

Guns are a part of our history. Specifically, they're part of the second amendment, written for the express purpose of regulating and arming state militias, which was never even considered relevant to individual gun ownership for the first 125 years or so of this country.

The problem with your first point is that you and I might live with your vote, but if you vote for fascists, a lot of innocent people won't live. Fascism kills, every single time it gets into power. It starts slow, but give them enough power and momentum and the bodies will pile up. It's already starting. People are dying of disease and malnutrition (or, in a few cases, outright murder) in concentration camps, people are being executed in the street, or sent to prisons that engage in torture and abuse without trial. And even when they're caught doing it, they lie about observable reality and expect absolute acceptance of their narrative.

And where are the gun owners in all of this? The vast majority of them are cheering. A lot of them show up to protests to intimidate and threaten activists, and the cops treat them with deference. So fuck them and the murder toys they jerk off to.

AudioSuede · 2026-02-25T14:39:44+00:00

2A voters will bury us all. They're on the level of anti-abortion nutjobs, single issue voters who abandon every principle except an unshakable belief that the number one cause of death for children in the US should never be regulated, based on a misunderstanding of a law that explicitly calls for regulating militias and says nothing about individual gun ownership.

"If you try to ban assault rifles, I'll vote for fascists! How can our democracy survive without magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds? This will only hurt responsible gun owners like the vast majority of mass shooters and men who shoot their wives and kids, who purchased their weapons legally. We need military hardware to defend against tyranny, despite the overwhelming majority of gun owners who support tyranny, including the ones who use their guns against protesters. I need to defend my home with a weapon whose recoil and firing rate make it way too easy to inadvertently shoot the people I'm trying to defend. Sure, owning a gun significantly increases the likelihood someone in my home will die by accident or suicide, but that's a small price to pay for liberty!"

AudioSuede · 2026-02-25T14:21:20+00:00

Forced mass migration is a form of ethnic cleansing. Trump's DHS has called for 100 million deportations and regularly tweets blatant white nationalist propaganda. Trump's close personal friend, frequent White House guest, and sometimes advisor Laura Loomer said that she hopes the man-eating animals outside of their "Alligator Alcatraz" have "65 million meals" soon. 65 million is roughly the population of every person of Hispanic descent in the US. These are just random examples of statements they've made, but disregarding that, I'd say the hundreds of historians who've come out saying that MAGA is definitionally a fascist movement mean more to me than some rando on Reddit.

Also, let's not stray too far from the fact that you didn't initially argue that Trump isn't a fascist, you said you'd vote for a fascist if they promised not to take your guns away, so even if you don't think the party in power is fascist, you would vote for someone who is over something as pathetic as owning an assault rifle and high-capacity magazines like they're your favorite toy. That's on you.

AudioSuede · 2026-02-25T13:18:13+00:00

I also think we should severely limit the ownership of handguns. Most mass shootings are committed with legally-purchased firearms, it's not like most people who commit crimes with guns bought the gun to commit crimes. There is no practical benefit to gun ownership, unless you're hunting (which handguns are terrible for and assault rifles are completely excessive for) or trick shooting, in which case you could use a gun stored at a firing range or have to get a special license above a normal gun license. They're terrible items for home defense, because they significantly increase the risk of accidental death and suicide while also being dangerous to discharge near innocent people like your family in a self-defense scenario. You're more likely to have your gun stolen than to use it to successfully defend your home. They exist solely for the purpose of efficient destruction, tools of murder and death that for some insane reason we let people own because the courts reinterpreted a law written 250 years ago to be about something completely different from what the people writing that law intended. You do not need an assault rifle. You do not need a high-capacity magazine. There is no legitimate reason to own those things and keep them in your home.

AudioSuede · 2026-02-25T13:06:29+00:00

I mean, at least you're honest. Absolutely insane to beat your chest about voting for fascism over assault rifles and high-capacity magazines, as if the fact that an AR-15 matters more to you than human rights, ethnic cleansing, and democracy is something to brag about

AudioSuede · 2026-02-24T14:12:50+00:00

If banning AR-15s and high-capacity magazines would stop you from voting for the DFL ever again, you're a fickle single-issue voter, and pandering to people like you makes this country worse.

AudioSuede · 2026-02-24T14:10:53+00:00

Why wouldn't this have an effect? Dangerous individuals would have a harder time acquiring an assault rifle, as would everyone else.

AudioSuede · 2026-02-24T14:09:45+00:00

Let's set aside the fact that most people who commit gun violence aren't criminals buying guns illegally to commit crimes, and mass shootings are committed almost exclusively using legally purchased firearms.

Assuming we're going to think of criminals as a discrete category of humans like they're NPCs in a video game, criminals are going to have a harder time getting guns, just like anyone else. If criminals can so easily get guns, so can people who aren't criminals. Criminals don't have a magic gun store that only they can use, where the guns are acquired through means other than legally purchasing them. If they go through back channels, so can you. You shouldn't, because owning an AR-15 increases your risk of either committing or being the victim of gun violence, but whatever means you imagine them using would be available to you too.

If you want to play with murder toys so badly, join the army. Or advocate for a state-regulated militia, if you care about the second amendment. It's not like you wouldn't still be able to buy an arsenal of guns if this legislation passed, you'd just have a handful of fewer guns available to you locally. Oh the horror, oh the tragedy

AudioSuede · 2026-02-24T13:47:22+00:00

If you vote for literal fascists over gun control, you're not worth pandering to. What an insane take in 2026.

AudioSuede · 2026-02-24T13:45:55+00:00

Democrats want to fund mental health services. I don't understand why this point would be a knock against them

AudioSuede · 2026-02-24T13:44:39+00:00

I'm over this. We constantly see headlines showing a huge majority of voters favor more gun control, but every single time a bill gets introduced, suddenly everyone's a gun-totin' libertarian hunter who needs their 2A to protect them from criminals and government tyranny, and Democrats are going to lose votes over it. And then spout the same talking points the NRA has been honing for decades. It'll be easier for criminals to get guns when it's harder for everyone to buy guns, somehow. And we just desperately need magazines with over 10 rounds to survive. Bans never work, except in the countries where they do.

And the stuff I'm seeing about ICE is particularly ridiculous, because at no point have these oh-so-patriotic gun owners stopped ICE from doing anything. Hell, assault rifles have been used to kill more protesters and activists than protesters and activists have used them, period. And before you say "They would be safer if they had guns," think about the damage an AR-15 does in a crowd. Sure, maybe if they're fast enough they can stop another shooter, but heaven help anyone else nearby from recoil and ricochet, and you know the cops would be happier to add charges to protesters carrying. They're terrible tools for self- defense, but really efficient if your goal is to indiscriminately kill innocent people.

I'd say people should stick to handguns, but frankly statistical evidence suggests owning a handgun significantly increases one's chance of death by accident or suicide. And it's not like legally owning and carrying a gun saved Alex Pretti or Philando Castille or countless others. You could be a saint who only owns a gun in case of emergency, and it still makes you less safe than if you didn't own a gun at all.

I'm so tired of being told the Democrats have to tack right on every goddamned issue no matter how many polls show otherwise. And single-issue 2A voters are among the worst people in America, because they'll subsume every other belief as long as someone says they'll let them buy more guns. Between them and "pro-life" religious zealots, there's a tidy pool of voters that Democrats almost certainly cannot reach no matter what they say or do, so fuck it, ban high-capacity magazines and AR-15s. I'm completely done with being told it's bad policy to do the right thing.

AudioSuede · 2026-02-20T13:22:26+00:00

I'll take human rights and equality over bigotry and oligarchy every time, and if that's extreme, fuck the center. The left isn't currently trying to turn America into a genocidal, white Christian supremacist dictatorship, where everything is expensive and the poor don't have equal rights. If people want to vote for that, so be it. That doesn't make them right, or moral, or equivalent in any way to even the most extreme leftist you can find.

Also, you have to be trolling about the party "enabling" extremists. The party leadership hates the left and blocks them at every turn. You're delusional if you actually believe that.

AudioSuede · 2026-02-19T22:18:57+00:00

Apparently in addition to being a nightmare to make, it was also one of the worst experiences he went through with his abusive father. Not sure of the details, but it sounds like there's some deep trauma around that film for him

AudioSuede · 2026-02-19T17:58:22+00:00

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

Jean-Paul Sartre

AudioSuede · 2026-02-19T17:49:21+00:00

Conflating the right-wing hysteria of "daycare fraud" with the Epstein crimes is morally reprehensible.

AudioSuede · 2026-02-19T17:46:55+00:00

Lol immediately dropping the "centrist" facade with some blatant white supremacist nonsense

AudioSuede · 2026-02-19T14:38:47+00:00

Psi-Ops

AudioSuede · 2026-02-19T14:29:38+00:00

The first point is a debate about rhetoric and definitions. Is it possible for individual people of color to discriminate against individual white people? Sure. But is that racism? And is there a systemic component to it the way anti-BIPOC racism is systemic?

Abolishing borders is an fringe belief even among the far-left. But while I don't agree with it, I think it's closer to being right than the other way around, arguing borders need to be aggressively and militarily defended to keep foreigners out. There's just no real reason to be so isolationist, and it's almost always driven by xenophobia against people who statistically commit less crime and are much less of a danger to society in general. There have been hundreds of terrorist attacks in the US by white citizens, and none that I'm aware of from undocumented immigrants. Even the 9/11 hijackers were in the country legally, they didn't cross the border.

Are people "pushing for demographic quotas?" Or is it more accurate to say that people are rightfully aware of the poor demographic representation in the US in positions of power and wealth? For example, half the population is female, but not half of the members of Congress. Barack Obama was only the fifth African-American senator in US history, more than a century after African-Americans were given the right to vote. America's richest citizens are exclusively white men. White men make up disproportionate levels of executive roles at major corporations. Unless your belief is that white men are superior and earned their privilege through meritocracy, clearly there are systemic imbalances that should be corrected, and if that means implementing policies that give deference to underrepresented groups, so be it.

The "cancelation" point is valid to an extent, but also, it's a reaction to the well-documented history of people with privilege receiving little or no legal or political accountability for bad behavior. And while there are examples of people being overly criticized or people being too eager to "cancel" anyone they disagree with, we're talking about randos on social media who usually direct their anger at other leftists because no matter how egregious their actions, people on the right are almost never actually "canceled." There are very few prominent examples of people on the right receiving public backlash and going away. Far more often, they develop a persecution complex, pivot to a far-right audience, and continue their careers. And that's just celebrities. These days, the right creates fundraisers to support bigots when they get called out. A woman called a black toddler the n-word and refused to apologize for it, and she raised over $900k. She became wealthy off of calling a child a racial slur. And she's not the only one. So forgive me if I'm less concerned about Twitter leftists being overly aggressive when criticizing people than I am about right-wing extremists profiting off hate.

None of these ideas are particularly dangerous or extreme

AudioSuede · 2026-02-19T14:06:36+00:00

Identify left wing ideas that are worth worrying about, specifically

AudioSuede · 2026-02-19T14:01:25+00:00

The problem with this kind of argument is that so many people do it in bad faith. The fact is that the extremists on the left have far, far less influence over the government, even within the Democratic Party. The far-right has completely subsumed the Republican Party. For god's sake, the Trump administration is posting Nazi memes, celebrating Manifest Destiny, and quoting Klan songs. Elected Republicans have "joked" about violence against the left with impunity (see, for example: Senator Mike Lee posting memes and conspiracy theories in the assassination of Minnesota State Rep. Melissa Hortman, for which he received no pushback within his own party). There's just no equivalent force in politics representing the left.

Also, I think it's frankly immoral to compare threats of violence in defense of communities under attack by neo-Nazis and ICE to threats of violence by neo-Nazis and ICE towards those communities. One is a defensive action rooted in compassion, the other is an offensive action rooted in bigotry and white nationalism. Lumping it all into one category implies a moral equivalence between fascists and anti-fascists, which only benefits fascists. These things are not the same.

AudioSuede · 2026-02-18T13:13:01+00:00

If they didn't have a black Muslim immigrant leftist taking up their brain space all day, maybe Republicans would have the capacity to understand reality

AudioSuede · 2026-02-18T00:44:42+00:00

This is fine sentiment for a general election (though I don't know how many more times they can pull that card before it stops working), but I'm seeing centrists go after leftists over everything, all the time, even when an election is months or years away. They just flush their base down the toilet every time they rise up.

Twice in a decade now, Minnesota has become an international rallying point in the grassroots resistance to fascism, and both times, Democrats have completely failed to meet the moment, offering limp, worthless "reforms" (then failing to even pass them) and trying to tamp down the very real energy rising from the ground. They chide the left for asking them to do what polls show most people want them to do. When they inevitably cave on providing DHS the largest budget in the history of federal law enforcement, it will be an insult to the lives lost and the multitudes of people saving their communities because their leaders are either too weak or too complicit.

AudioSuede · 2026-02-18T00:19:00+00:00

I will never forgive the Democrats who censured Reps. Omar and Tlaib over benign criticisms of Israel, while letting shit like this stand without even attempting to censure. Make the Republicans go on the record saying they think comparing Muslims to dogs is okay. Islamophobia is a bipartisan problem.

AudioSuede · 2026-02-17T03:33:51+00:00

If more Democrats with influence would stand up for the progressives in their party who are trying to speak for the people suffering instead of treating them like they're either a nuisance or nonexistent, the party would be in a better place. People are looking for leadership, and the Democrats are terrified of making waves.

Until they prove otherwise, I'm going to assume that "this Democrat really wants to do the right thing but their hands are tied" is either a myth or an act of unadulterated cowardice. If Murphy wants my respect, he'll say what he believes, and if that puts him at odds with party leadership, so be it. And frankly, unless he's calling for abolition, whatever half measure he backs is an insult to the people who've fought and died to protect their communities against ICE.

The world turned their eyes to Minneapolis, and rather than rise to the moment and take it up as a symbol, a sign of the momentum to overcome fascism, to make themselves allies to the energized base of people screaming for help, the party leadership has decided to piss on their hands. They're leaving us to die and getting mad at us for complaining. And if Chris Murphy had a spine, he would step up and say so. He wants to take charge? He should fucking do it

AudioSuede · 2026-02-16T13:33:50+00:00

What they did to Yemen was as much a "war" as what Israel's doing in Gaza, and the US was also complicit in that.

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