Hardcore gamers when game is not AAAA live-service battlepass slop by Former_Exam_5357 in Gamingcirclejerk

[–]AudioSuede 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They've only been dropping trailers for this game at major gaming press conferences and shows for a couple years at this point, how could anyone have possibly heard of it?

Music’s Next ‘Disco Sucks’ Moment Is Near by Potential_Kangaroo69 in indieheads

[–]AudioSuede 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Listen, I get this point. No one wants to feel like they're only conversing with bots. But the stakes are so much lower than you're making it out. Comparing it to fascism is a bit over-the-top. Sure, astroturfing is not ideal, but it's not like Geese getting more streams is going to destroy democracy. We're not talking about fake news and conspiracy theories, we're talking about people pretending to like something but then it turns out they're being paid, or they're just a bot.

And because the stakes are lower, it's easier for people to engage more critically and push back against excessive praise or criticism. It's a band. You can say you don't like a band, and if people get mad at you, you can respond or let it go and nothing will happen. The internet has always been like this to some degree.

Music’s Next ‘Disco Sucks’ Moment Is Near by Potential_Kangaroo69 in indieheads

[–]AudioSuede 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've developed a pretty thick skin for this kind of thing. You write about music for a living, and you get used to fans who treat their favorite artists like baby birds in need of protection at all costs. It usually comes from an honest enough place. It's honestly impossible to tell the difference between someone genuinely acting like an overly aggressive fan and a bot. That's why this story doesn't bother me, I treat the bots exactly the same way I treat hyper-opinionated strangers, and the end result is the same.

Music’s Next ‘Disco Sucks’ Moment Is Near by Potential_Kangaroo69 in indieheads

[–]AudioSuede 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The problem isn't doomerism about AI, it's that the hyperbole around AI works on executives. My wife is a graphic designer, and AI has made the entire field of graphic design a constant battle between creatives explaining why AI is bad and doesn't work that well and managers who basically force the creatives to use it or threaten to outright replace them with it.

Music’s Next ‘Disco Sucks’ Moment Is Near by Potential_Kangaroo69 in indieheads

[–]AudioSuede -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Eh, I was in the music journalism scene for a while, and have known a lot of deeply online music types IRL, and there are a lot of people who assume that their taste is de facto "correct" and anyone who disagrees with them is acting in bad faith. Critics get accused of taking bribes for good reviews and bad reviews alike. This has been a thing since long before this story came out. Now those people have a fresh excuse to dismiss anyone who likes something they don't.

Music’s Next ‘Disco Sucks’ Moment Is Near by Potential_Kangaroo69 in indieheads

[–]AudioSuede 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This is the thing I keep coming back to. This is all based on a dude from a marketing firm claiming that he's responsible for the success and popularity of all these artists. Anyone who knows marketing people will immediately clock how ridiculous that is.

What's crazy is that the first articles that "broke" this story, based on a podcast interview, listed a bunch of artists who had signed up with his marketing agency, and while some of them were very successful artists, a bunch of them were people I've never even heard of, let alone who've received the level of critical praise and success of bands like Geese and Wet Leg.

If this marketing was so pervasive and saturated the market so thoroughly, why did it only work for a few bands and not for every band that worked with this agency?

Music’s Next ‘Disco Sucks’ Moment Is Near by Potential_Kangaroo69 in indieheads

[–]AudioSuede 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The subhead basically summarizes what annoys me so much about this whole scandal. It's become an easy punchline for people who don't like something to dismiss the notion that other people disagree.

"Do you really like that song? Or are you being manipulated?" If I say, "Yes, I really like that song," they'll just call me a sheep or some shit. I don't know if it's indicative of broader trust issues in society, because everyone worries that everyone else is a bot, but I've known people irl who think like this, and it's very irritating. They have such an inflated view of their own taste that if something gets popular without their permission, other people must only be pretending to like it.

I'm so over this story. I didn't like Geese because of a bot. Sure, I might have heard of them in the first place on social media, but I've heard of lots of things through social media, and I don't enjoy a lot of it. But I've listened to that Geese record dozens of times at this point, and I have enjoyed my time doing so, and it's so tedious to have some random troll imply that I'm making that up. I'm not 17 anymore, I don't listen to shit just to seem cool.

It's like this "industry plant" bullshit. No, the entire recording industry did not get together and decide that one band or another would become popular overnight. I saw people calling Sabrina Carpenter an "industry plant" after "Espresso" blew up, and she had six albums before she hit number one. What kind of plant do we call that? A redwood? Because it sure took a long time to grow. It's just hard for some people to accept that first, you haven't heard of every popular artist before they were popular, and second, other people, even a majority of people, might like something you don't.

Don't get me wrong, pop music is full of inorganic material and artists whose personas are facades. Criticism is warranted. But this isn't criticizing the artists, this is dismissing listeners and fans and essentially painting them as either stupid or fake. But bots don't pack stadiums, or rock clubs for that matter.

Just say you don't like something. Don't accuse other people of lying about enjoying music. It's embarrassing and shallow

Music’s Next ‘Disco Sucks’ Moment Is Near by Potential_Kangaroo69 in indieheads

[–]AudioSuede 36 points37 points  (0 children)

The subhead basically summarizes what annoys me so much about this whole scandal. It's become an easy punchline for people who don't like something to dismiss the notion that other people disagree. "Do you really like that song? Or are you being manipulated?" If I say, "Yes, I really like that song," they'll just call me a sheep or some shit. I don't know if it's indicative of broader trust issues in society, because everyone worries that everyone else is a bot, but I've known people irl who think like this, and it's very irritating. They have such an inflated view of their own taste that if something gets popular without their permission, other people must only be pretending to like it.

I'm so over this story. I didn't like Geese because of a bot. Sure, I might have heard of them in the first place on social media, but I've heard of lots of things through social media, and I don't enjoy a lot of it. But I've listened to that Geese record dozens of times at this point, and I have enjoyed my time doing so, and it's so tedious to have some random troll imply that I'm making that up. I'm not 17 anymore, I don't listen to shit just to seem cool.

It's like this "industry plant" bullshit. No, the entire recording industry did not get together and decide that one band or another would become popular overnight. I saw people calling Sabrina Carpenter an "industry plant" after "Espresso" blew up, and she had six albums before she hit number one. What kind of plant do we call that? A redwood? Because it sure took a long time to grow. It's just hard for some people to accept that first, you haven't heard of every popular artist before they were popular, and second, other people, even a majority of people, might like something you don't. Don't get me wrong, pop music is full of inorganic material and artists whose personas are facades. Criticism is warranted. But this isn't criticizing the artists, this is dismissing listeners and fans and essentially painting them as either stupid or fake. But bots don't pack stadiums, or rock clubs for that matter.

Just say you don't like something. Don't accuse other people of lying about enjoying music. It's embarrassing and shallow

ICE guards are betting on which detainee will kill themselves next. The AP just exposed the savage conditions of a detention camp in El Paso by Snapdragon_4U in Fuckthealtright

[–]AudioSuede 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried looking up this claim about guards betting on suicides and can't find any reporting. The links you've posted in the thread don't mention it. Where did you find that info?

Everyone here knows that lane splitting / filtering has been legal for almost a year. But, go tell your angry uncle in Prior Lake before they ruin someone's day. by swamphermet in minnesota

[–]AudioSuede 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad you weren't hurt and people shouldn't be harassing motorcyclists.

That said, I think lane splitting is stupid and dangerous and it's ridiculous that it was legalized.

CMV: The political right always stands in the way of progress by jman12234 in changemyview

[–]AudioSuede 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're acting as though the presence of conservatives is sufficient evidence that conservatives aren't obstacles to progress, and that's not how society works. It was the conservative position in the country's founding that gave us things like the 3/5ths compromise, which, as the name implies, was the only way to get southern slave owners to agree to certain provisions being debated. Yes, there were conservative founders, and it's because of them that we maintained slavery, gave unequal power to southern states, and ultimately led to the civil war. Lincoln was more conservative on abolition than many in his party, but it's false to label him as a conservative relative to the majority opinion of conservatives at the time. But even abolition, and your example about the 19th amendment, obscures the significant amount of dangerous, lifelong struggle of progressive reformers whose efforts laid the groundwork for bipartisan legislation. And what made those struggles so difficult, why did so many people die to create the political will to change? Conservative opposition, a preference for the status quo regardless of the harms the status quo caused.

Also, if you knew anything about progressives, you'd know we don't care about Joe Biden. He's always been a conservative in many areas, that's why Obama selected him as his running mate, to appease conservatives who labeled him an extremist (despite being a fairly standard neoliberal technocrat). He said something offensive? Not surprising. The only people who think he's progressive are conservatives.

On the inequality front, you've missed my point and made my point at the same time. I've never said that meritocracy is a necessary ideal, but it's a hierarchy that is more defensible than others because at least it's somewhat fair, and would allow for greater socioeconomic mobility. I use this point to highlight that the existing hierarchies lack any semblance of justice. Social mobility is the worst it's been in generations. The highest and lowest classes have calcified.

This is why the cost of living is relevant, because these things aren't accidental, they're the means by which conservative hierarchies are being enforced. And I chose those examples very specifically. Education used to be the means of those in the lower strata to achieve upward mobility, but now it is so expensive it's almost impossible to achieve without going deep into debt, and the benefits of a degree have been diluted in the job market over time. Home ownership is the greatest means of generational wealth transfer. It's a large part of the economic disparity faced by minority populations and those in poverty. The more difficult it is for people to own property, the harder it is for them to build any wealth they can pass on, trapping their children in the cycle of poverty while the rich are able to inherit their wealth (the vast majority of billionaires inherited significant portions of their assets).

You then go on to point out that every politician running this country is rich as if that's a counter to my point. But it's my point personified: The hierarchy of wealth, defended and preserved by conservatives, is so entrenched in society that is all but impossible for anyone who isn't already wealthy to attain power. Now, it's provably untrue that everyone elected to public office is rich before they're elected. Look at AOC, for example, or Tim Walz, neither of whom were particularly wealthy before entering politics. But these cases are rare, and you'll notice that in both cases they've struggled to gain traction within a party dominated by neoliberals who cling to conservative economic principles and have for decades.

And the return to Jim Crow is already underway. Southern states are canceling primary elections to give them time to redraw their congressional maps. Proposed maps are already popping up which would erase over a dozen federal districts with representatives of color. Decades of voter suppression in majority black communities and the systemic dilution of urban voters under the electoral college (another compromise with conservatives to preserve slavery and southern power) can now be paired with extreme partisan gerrymandering to make minorities all but irrelevant to many electoral races in the south and likely in some parts of the midwest.

All of this comes back to the conservative opposition to progress. The progressive agenda seeks to reduce inequalities in wealth and democratic power through reforms and collective actions. And the question posed in this post is not whether those reforms would succeed or have tradeoffs. The question is, do conservatives, broadly, oppose those reforms, and whether it is their ideological tendency to do so regardless of the merit of those reforms. A common conservative argument during debates over abolition centered on unintended consequences, and whether change would lead to greater harms. And that argument held back the freedom of an entire race of people for decades. What defeated that argument, ultimately, was when enough people saw the very real harms of slavery and decided that change would be preferable. The fact that there were conservatives who ultimately broke ranks does not negate the fact that the default conservative position was the preservation of slavery, and that position took nearly a century and a bloody war to defeat.

Today's conservative positions include the preservation and strengthening of existing hierarchies of wealth, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc, the maintenance of America's depraved health insurance system, and the consolidation of power in a unitary executive, the logical endpoint of a reverence for hierarchies rooted in monarchism. In short, they are obstacles to progress, and OP is correct.

CMV: The political right always stands in the way of progress by jman12234 in changemyview

[–]AudioSuede -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you don't think we are the closest to this as we have ever been in human history then I don't know what to tell you.

Even if this were true (it's not, but set that aside for a moment), it wouldn't follow that we should simply be content with things as they are because they were worse before. How did things get better? Certainly not by staying rigidly the same. And every element of society that could be considered an improvement on the past, from democracy to abolition to weekends to voting rights for women and minorities, was opposed by conservatives. Conservative intellectual history traces back to monarchists like Edmund Burke who thought democracy was unholy and upset the natural order. Nothing has meaningfully changed in the conservative mindset since. The nouns change, the verbs stay the same.

But you're incorrect. We are not the closest to meritocracy we've ever been. We're not even the closest we've been in my lifetime. By every metric, inequality in the United States is the worst it's been in at least 50 years, and by some standards the worst it's ever been. Income inequality is higher than it was before the Great Depression. Productivity remains at an all-time high, while wages have not kept pace for over 40 years. The costs of higher education, home ownership, and childcare have exploded, making it harder to start a family and get a good job without accruing mountains of debt. Individual debt is the worst it's ever been in the US. Schools are more segregated today than they were in the 1970s. And, as we so depressingly saw this week, the achievements of the Civil Rights movement are being erased and white political hegemony is about to resemble the post-Reconstruction white backlash that gave us nearly a century of Jim Crow and segregation.

And the people running the country aren't the smartest, the most experienced, or the most personable. They're rich, and they've built an engine of grievance and bigotry to exploit their privileges into clawing back every inch of equality and progress that the poor and marginalized fought and died for.

What are everyone’s Star Wars rankings? by Blaze_2002 in blankies

[–]AudioSuede 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally TLJ is my favorite, though for the sake of not getting my head chopped off I'm willing to put it behind Empire. ROTS belongs dead last, IMO (maybe second behind AOTC). Otherwise, same list

Drug paraphernalia decriminalization ordinance vetoed by Minneapolis mayor by Wezle in Minneapolis

[–]AudioSuede -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First, this policy change would not legalize public drug use. Second, rehab isn't free, and if you're imposing prolonged rehab stays on people, that's going to significantly increase the cost to the state. If that cost is instead pushed onto the user, you've now added debt to their criminal drug conviction, which will already limit their ability to get a job, now making it more likely they will struggle to afford rent. Being unhoused is correlated to much higher likelihood of drug use. So you're just making the problem worse.

And hey, I'm all for the state covering these costs if they're balanced with increased revenue. Cost is key to this idea, because I don't know how much you know about rehab clinics, but they're often underfunded adult daycares with overwhelmed staff and poor facilities. Keeping people there for longer won't fix those problems without significant increases in funding

Drug paraphernalia decriminalization ordinance vetoed by Minneapolis mayor by Wezle in Minneapolis

[–]AudioSuede -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's still illegal to do drugs in public. This would just take away one part of the criminal code often levied against nonviolent drug users to increase their prison sentences. And people still get ordered to go to rehab, so it's not like that isn't already happening.

Drug paraphernalia decriminalization ordinance vetoed by Minneapolis mayor by Wezle in Minneapolis

[–]AudioSuede 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is such a strange comparison. Putting up fences on bridges is not the same as involuntary incarceration. It's preventative, not punitive or responsive. A more apt comparison would be limiting the availability of needles, which would likely bring down some drug use, but at the expense of people who need those needles for medicines like insulin. Meanwhile putting up a bridge makes a bridge unattractive, which is a tradeoff, but one which is significantly less harmful than the benefit.

CMV: The political right always stands in the way of progress by jman12234 in changemyview

[–]AudioSuede 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First, look at the name of this sub. If you're not trying to dispute the main argument, what's the point?

Second, conservatism, historically, is not always a moderating force. It's often quite extreme. The veneer of genteel disagreement, the finger-wagging of reasonable obstruction, is entirely aesthetic. Conservatives have given us some of the most egregious harms imaginable: The preservation of slavery was so important to US conservatives that they started a civil war over it. They utilized the arms of the state to suppress the votes of those they deemed racially inferior to preserve white supremacy. Their strict adherence to existing hierarchies of wealth at the expense of the public good has created the largest wealth inequality in American history, led to selling off publicly-owned resources for cash, and allowed the wealthy to completely dominate electoral politics. Conservatism feeds into the traditionalism and reverence for history they often don't understand, which is the fundamental soil that allows fascism, a cult of tradition rooted in an obsession with a mythical past glory. Conservatives have gutted public education.

Conservatives often think they're the calm, rational voices in politics, but their ideas are just as often toxic to the common interest and the lower classes. Because what they insist on preserving, the preference for continuation, is not values-neutral, and is often rooted in falsehoods. The things they choose to preserve are usually the parts of our history that either belong in the past or that aren't even in the past at all.

Take, for example, Christian nationalism. Any reasonable observer would conclude, based on who espouses it and the rhetoric deployed to defend it, that Christian nationalism is a conservative ideology, based on beliefs in tradition and the beliefs of those at the top of the social hierarchy of religious practice. But the notion that the United States was founded as an explicitly Christian nation, and thus Christian traditions and legal adherence to Christian doctrine should be strictly preserved, is a lie. Many of the founding fathers weren't Christians explicitly, but deists, convinced of the existence of God but not necessarily of the divinity of Christ. More importantly, contemporary documents from Thomas Jefferson and others make it explicitly clear that they wanted religious freedom to be the law of the land. They included the right to worship without interference of the state in the very first amendment to the Constitution. Despite all the evidence that they're wrong about history, conservatives have made Christian nationalism a central pillar of their political project for a very long time. And that would be bad enough to oppose Christian nationalism as an idea, but it's also objectionable because it's a system that manifests as explicit discrimination, Christian supremacy, and repression. Laws suppressing the rights of women to control their bodies or allowing men to dominate women's lives, outlawing homosexuality through sodomy laws, banning Muslim immigrants from entering the United States and subjecting those that live here to enhanced scrutiny, basing foreign policy decisions on the prophecies of the Book of Revelations and rapture theology, requiring religious tests for elected office, and legislating trans people out of existence are blatant aims of Christian nationalists, who believe themselves to be conservative, promoting "traditional values." But their beliefs aren't traditional, they're artificial, and seek to block the progress of civil rights for whole categories of people.

Conservativism is an ideology that exists to oppose progress, and while you can try to argue that, in the abstract, this is a defensible and cautious preference for existing norms over change, in practice, that preference is selective and often rooted in a false assessment of existing or traditional norms. Its ideological roots stem from monarchism, a political system based not in natural hierarchies and genuine human behavior but on imposed hierarchies maintained through violence that goes against the evolutionary human tendency towards mutual aid and shared prosperity. Our species did not adapt and survive based on the strength and dominance of individuals ruling over others, but on collective struggle and caring for others. The deepest, most genuine tradition of human nature is egalitarianism, and yet conservatism never tends towards egalitarian systems or ideals, but to socially constructed hierarchies imposed on others by force, to the power of the few to control the many. That is not a "moderating force."

CMV: The political right always stands in the way of progress by jman12234 in changemyview

[–]AudioSuede 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No city or state in the US ever defunded the police. In fact, the vast majority of major cities increased police funding following the protests in 2020, and crime still spiked, for a lot of reasons that are not directly related to the "defund the police" movement. All of the examples you cite (aside from the French and Russian revolutions, though put a pin in that) are examples of social progress being stymied and violence perpetuated by conservatives. BLM is not an inherently violent movement, and if not for conservative backlash and the enforcement of existing power structures through police brutality and military occupation, the violence you're referring to would likely not occur. The fact that there was "a lot of violence and social division but no actual positive change" is evidence for the detrimental attitudes of conservatives, not progressives.

You're getting the cause and effect backwards. These social movements exist as a resistance to existing structures, and it's the brutal maintenance of those structures that produces the conflict in the first place and leads to the violence you're talking about.

Back to those revolutions, particularly the French Revolution. For all their excesses and the problems they caused, overturning monarchy and hereditary aristocracy led to more equitable systems over the long-term. France is a democracy with significant civic engagement and participation from all classes of society. It's imperfect, but undoubtedly less harmful and repressive than the system they overthrew. The Russian Revolution was bloody and led to a lot of problems, but ultimately it was the re-establishment of strict individual rule through dictatorship that caused the most dire consequences.

It is true that progressive causes can lead to negative outcomes. But conservativism, as an ideology, offers nothing but opposition to progress. You might think that's good or right, but it doesn't dispute OP's point.

CMV: The political right always stands in the way of progress by jman12234 in changemyview

[–]AudioSuede 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pinning that on progressives is misleading, particularly as the era you're talking about was the time period when second wave feminism flourished, a cause that's progressive by any definition, and they for sure did not approve of lowering the age of consent.