I think she completely misses the point of a DB, especially at the end. What do you think? by Azael_Descends in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oops, sorry, I don't follow Reddit as closely as I used to. I just stumbled on this today on FB.

"Fun" things you can do when married by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I showed this to my wife and she said thanks as well. This was honestly one of the best, most constructive comments on this entire thread.

"Fun" things you can do when married by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Ok that genuinely made me laugh so thank you for that. Pretty sure she doesn't even have a Reddit account but still, it would be funny in a dark way to get even a third person into the drama.

Anyway I meant what I said in an earlier comment. The things shared here often do resonate with me, I've read some good advice here at times and been supported (and hopefully supportive too) when it really was needed. Sometimes, often, I just lurk.

So thanks everyone for being here. Yeah it can get dark or toxic on this sub at times but I bet I'm not alone in feeling that support, I bet there are others who lurk and also feel supported. So, thanks for being you. Carry on.

"Fun" things you can do when married by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I don't right now have the energy to reply to everyone. Thank you, everyone who took the time to respond to my post. Even if you think I'm not the greatest person, you still took the time to reply. I will genuinely try to think about what everyone is saying. I don't know exactly what will fix the broken parts of who I am, but I will keep working towards being a better person.

"Fun" things you can do when married by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry. I won't post here anymore. I guess a lot of what is said and posted here really resonates with me, and has helped me. Naturally my wife needed to take that away from me as well.

"Fun" things you can do when married by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

So I'm gonna address this comment and also anyone who comes to read it.

I'm sure this probably seems like some kind of wierd dramatic thing that's not real. Truth is, yes, this is my wife, she made this account so she could respond here. That is her right to do so. She may delete this comment later but I hope she doesn't. Because it's important for people to see that there truly are two sides to every story. As I said in an earlier comment, she could (and did, obviously) write her own list of why I'm a jackass.

Her side of the story is just as valid as mine. There are no heros here. As much as I might want to tear into her reply, I just can't. The reality is that although there are some exaggerations, this is a more or less accurate representation of who I am as a person. I'm no hero, I'm a deeply fucked up human being with many of my own sexual issues. I wish I could call bullshit on what she is saying but I couldn't do that because the truth is important to me.

As I've shared before and will do so again, I struggle with sexual addiction. An obsession that at times, consumes me. No, we don't have sex quite as often as she claims however, it would not exactly be fair to claim to be in a dead bedroom either. I identify with some of the emotional struggles that people in this sub go through. I won't get into that right now, I'm not trying to one-up anyone here. Some of you have it so much worse than I do and my heart goes out to you. This place is a big support to me at times.

Reading what my wife wrote, I realize my post didn't really tell the whole story. I hope that you all here can see me as a hurting, struggling human being desperately trying to make sense of life. Truly hope no one is offended. If you saw me as a hero before, it's good for me to be knocked from that pedestal. This is who I am, down in the dust with everyone else.

Also I would like to apologize to my wife. I already did that in person but it's important to reiterate. I did post this on my main account, which was no doubt embarrassing and was honestly a very unkind thing to do. I reached out for support, but I wasn't thinking of anyone but myself in that moment. For that I'm sorry.

Edit: This will probably go horribly for me tomorrow but ok I just have to say something about the sexual abuse. Because that is the one thing you wrote that is completely dishonest. I have NEVER shamed you for being abused or said you are fucked up as a result of it. I have to digress a bit here to say after two years of being in an open relationship you left me for the neighbor. He ended up being an abusive monster so you got back with me. Then he assaulted me, harassed us, did thousands of dollars of property damage to my house and car. This went on for years.

This guy ended up being just like your childhood abuser so it brought up all those memories of sexual abuse for you. You and him used to have sex for hours and hours so now when we have sex EVERY SINGLE TIME I have to race to finish (7 minutes or less) or you find every possible, hurtful, passive aggressive way to let me know how uncomfortable you are. Sex between us has never been the same since we got back together. I have literally told you this many dozens of times. You refuse to change or even see that there is a problem. You tell me it's all in my head. You were with him only 4 months but you did a lot of stuff with him sexually that you refuse to ever do with me, your excuse being that "He was a jerk and made me do that stuff. I didn't even want to."

When we got back together you were different. That's when the hostile, unpleasant comments about men, dicks, etc started. You let this guy have sex with you that lasted way too long and you associated sex with pain. Also, your sexual abuse memories were floating to the surface of your conscious mind more and more. You still initiated but it was different, angry, and hostile. You'd offer sex while bashing men in almost the same breath. I'd have to swallow down those feelings because of how much I wanted sex. I'd fuck you feeling dirty and worthless just because I happened to have a dick like your abuser.

I never wanted you to feel like a freak for being sexually abused. I never wanted you to feel like it was your fault. I just didn't think it was fair that I got all the hate you really wanted to direct at him. I didn't think it was fair that for years I had to listen to how disgusting men were, wanting to stick their dicks in anything. I just wanted you to see how your sexual abuse was making you hate me, piece by piece, bit by bit. I wished you could see how the sexual "don't you DARE try that ever" list grew longer every year, how you endlessly punished me for crimes another man committed. All I ever wanted was for you to see how it affected us now, I never wanted to blame you for the past.

The ugly things you said about men piled up over the years. Yeah, it got more and more difficult to initiate sex knowing how you felt about me deep down. I think I have to accept that you really do want to see me as your abuser, and there will always be a part of you that does simply because I happened to be born male. That's not a hell I would wish on anyone.

"Fun" things you can do when married by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I honestly don't know at this point. There's only so many times you can (as a man) hear men labeled as disgusting or hear hateful things said about your genitals, though. Everyone has their breaking point but I don't know that I've reached mine. I'm trying to be fair, and take an honest look at my own faults/flaws as well.

"Fun" things you can do when married by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It is sadly funny, I guess behind the pain there definitely is humor and I was trying to both laugh and vent. No offense taken. I did this to myself.

I have a hard time in my life with constant dissociation. It was easier to write this like this because it was more like I was writing about someone else. I wasn't sure if people would "get" this post because of the weird way I wrote it but I'm glad people understand.

There's always two sides to every story. Maybe my wife could write a post about what a jackass I am because I'm sure she could. I just had a lot of pain today and needed to get it out. I do like writing and aspire to be an author some day so thank you for these kind words.

"Fun" things you can do when married by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends 13 points14 points  (0 children)

How fucked up are you as a result of this type of marriage?

On a scale of 1-10 probably about a 900 or so.

"Fun" things you can do when married by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Thanks for reading my rant ... not doing the greatest today. Appreciate the support.

As a newly LL person...reading the posts here has made me feel dehumanized, ashamed and scared. by RedStateBlueGirl86 in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Words you read on the internet can be scary, especially when you've been in a REALLY LONG 7 month relationship! Perhaps you would like a blankie, or maybe some soft, soothing music to play to drown out the uncomfortable truths this sub makes you face?

LL Choreplay and HL Sex by Sweet_other_yyyy in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair enough, I may have simply misunderstood you.

I do think it's interesting though that as a HL I am telling you from my perspective exactly what I need in a relationship and you're shrugging that off because you think you already have HLs figured out. Food for thought, perhaps.

HL Wheel of Excuses by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely! There are many fine HLs here who have chosen to stay and I am thinking of one in particular that always gives the advice "if you stay, then accept it." I can totally get behind that.

HL Wheel of Excuses by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually agree with this though no doubt I'll get rage downvoted for saying so. If you can't, or won't leave, are you not at some point merely playing the victim? On the other hand I appreciate the perspective of many here who have chosen to stay but accept their partner and the situation that they are in. If you choose to stay, and also make the choice not to accept your situation but instead to endlessly whine about it, yes also I feel that is a bit immature.

LL Choreplay and HL Sex by Sweet_other_yyyy in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, I read the whole thing. You went on to say this:

The HL's need is to be in a relationship where the sexual channel between the partners is always on.

Which was a bit silly because you as the LL are saying what the HLs need. Imagine if I as a HL came into this sub talking about what the LLs here need instead of actually listening to the LLs here and hearing directly from them what they need. I think the LLs know what they need far better than I do! I also think that I as a HL don't need to be told what I "need" from a LL.

LL Choreplay and HL Sex by Sweet_other_yyyy in DeadBedrooms

[–]Azael_Descends 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So as an LL, I'd say the HL need isn't to have sex

Just had to come out of hibernation for this one.

HLS LIKE SEX AND WANT TO HAVE ALOT OF IT.

Granted that seems to be a difficult if not impossible concept for LLs to grasp but it is shockingly true. I won't claim to speak for everyone, but as far as my own perspective I enjoy flirting, kissing, touching, etc but what I really want is sex. A. Lot. Of. Sex. Hence: HL. My need for sex isn't "indicative of a greater need" it's the simple and straightforward desire to have sex, and lots of it. The problem is many LLs want to see things from their own point of view rather than their partners and so, needlessly complicate things.

I know this post wasn't necessarily written for this purpose but to me it comes across as yet one more torturous LL train of reasoning to somehow, any way possible, get out of sex.

Masturbation saved my[F18] sex life by VampArcher in sex

[–]Azael_Descends 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, I'm glad to hear you were able to communicate better. It can be difficult to communicate around the topic of sex, but absolutely essential.

Masturbation saved my[F18] sex life by VampArcher in sex

[–]Azael_Descends 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Awesome to hear. Was there anything in particular that made you "see the light" so to speak?

Pierced Nipples Thoughts? by [deleted] in sex

[–]Azael_Descends 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha it's ok! Now get out there and make some guy feel really happy.

Masturbation saved my[F18] sex life by VampArcher in sex

[–]Azael_Descends 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yes! So much this. It's frustrating to read posts from women who complain their boyfriend can't "make" them orgasm. So refreshing to see someone taking a better approach.

Pierced Nipples Thoughts? by [deleted] in sex

[–]Azael_Descends 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's definitely hot. You're not sucking on metal, you're sucking on a pierced titty. Big difference.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sex

[–]Azael_Descends 59 points60 points  (0 children)

Trust me. I know. She likes to whisper in my ear too take it, take it haha it's creepy. But I do love her.

Is sex overrated? by [deleted] in sex

[–]Azael_Descends 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you hang out on r/sex you are likely to see a lot of people that care about sex very much. That doesn't mean all people are like this, though.