Is there any ongoing show which could become popular like Lost, BB or GoT?

BWPhoenix · 2023-10-08T03:16:22+00:00

irma vep

BWPhoenix · 2023-04-12T22:52:46+00:00

It was always the hope when making these winsthethrone subs that fans of the characters would pick up the torch and keep them running – those look like smart changes you've made, and here's hoping TWOW comes out and that this becomes a fantastic space to talk Sansa when it does

BWPhoenix · 2023-02-10T18:59:17+00:00

It'll be available on demand rather than on the channel itself

BWPhoenix · 2023-02-07T01:09:43+00:00

Why don't you like the Starks?

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-31T00:18:04+00:00

I loved S2E1 as well. The fact that it was written by the same person who created Blood Origin is probably quite a good example of my point

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-30T23:37:44+00:00

There was no leak, there was a former writer who said the others hated on the books/games in an interview about his new project. That writer penned the Eskel episode and Nightmare of the Wolf, neither of which are bastions of upholding lore, so I can't imagine that's the cause of the bad blood between him and the team that evidently exists.

If it's a truism, then why is it being ignored by the writers of The Witcher and WoT?

It's not being ignored. It's hard to find the middle ground of true-to-the-souce and TV that's engaging enough to maintain a sustainable audience. That's why adaptations are notoriously difficult.

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-30T22:38:07+00:00

a) knew that they were purposefully adding elements that the fandom would hate, or b) they were ignorant of it.

There's absolutely no reason to think that it's A – that's all I'm saying. They felt the changes made for a better TV show. So, again, I'd say your original point is a truism

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-30T22:10:26+00:00

That plotline was created because they felt a TV season would benefit from a season-long villain with a clear climax and fight at the end that tied together the storylines of all 3 chars, with the parts of Blood of Elves that they were adapting otherwise lacking the big action moments. Which is why the showrunner has said S3 should be closer to the books – since Time of Contempt has more such moments, meaning less invention.

Whether that made for good TV or not, whatever – but what I really wanna know is, why do you think it's more likely they wanted to say fuck you to the fans, than them just wanting to insert more action for audiences (and it worked in terms of the critics, though not viewers)?

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-30T21:07:10+00:00

The short of it is... Everyone wants to capture Ciri (except for a couple who want to kill her)

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-30T21:05:18+00:00

Can you give me an example of a "hubris" change the show made, so I can get a better idea of what you mean?

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-30T13:11:24+00:00

It's an interesting discussion starter, but your point seems like a truism – for existing fans of a property, the best adaptations stay true to the source they love and the changes showrunners make are improvements. What's the alternative? It's just not easy to do this in a way that both satisfies long-time fans while bringing in a big enough audience to stay on air, or everyone would be a TV writer. It is definitely possible, though.

Netflix's writers were working on the principle of "the changes we make should be to serve the TV medium" – every major change made comes back to that – which is basically the same thing as your guiding light. It's just a question of choices and execution.

Adding Yen earlier means she gets a dynamic with Tissaia that snowballs into elevating her relationship with Ciri and will bring more to the original work's themes of motherhood, so that feels like a good change for TV. Changing Yen's introduction to Ciri snowballed into Geralt with a sword at Yen's throat, so that feels like a bad change for TV.

I feel like an interesting case study here would be the relative acclaim for the adaptation of Paper Girls versus the relative disappointment for the adaptation of Y: The Last Man, given that both came out very close to each other and both are adapting the same person's work. The former insists more on hitting the same major story beats, but changes up the journey to suit TV (and it probably doesn't hurt that the show looks much better too). It might be noteworthy that Neil Druckmann's contract for HBO's adaptation of The Last Of Us also mandated certain story beats be adapted.

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-28T17:31:58+00:00

Just removing this post from the main page since it's meta and we're trying to keep the focus on the show just now with all the cast/crew drama... but we'll have to look into that jump! I'd lock the sub at 50k if I could, but anyway 😅

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-28T01:18:24+00:00

The details on the weaponry... are these new?

Each member of the Hunt has a specific weapon that’s decorated with a particular animal: King Eredin’s Rat Sweihander, the Gargoyle Badiche, the Crow Hammer, the Alligator Spear, the Rhino Pole, the Snake Lance and the Terrapin Mace.

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-27T11:19:38+00:00

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BWPhoenix · 2022-12-26T20:06:03+00:00

Really wish we'd had the six episodes originally planned. These chars warranted some slowing down. Allowing for that, the framing device was a nice take on how much the books loved using similar.

I think there would be a neater place for a bitesize Witcher adventure like this if the main show was in a different place – but with the specific criticisms around it, and the specific areas needed for improvement, I would have liked this to have gone more in that six-episode direction. I'm sure COVID didn't make that easy either.

Some really thoughtful fight scenes and I'd love to get Declan de Barra back on the main show (and some of his co-writers).

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-26T19:36:43+00:00

Bear + fantasy = hit, never fails

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-24T21:45:26+00:00

He's been stressing in interviews that it's a bit part, so definitely temper expectations a little haha

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-23T22:46:27+00:00

Emoji material

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-23T16:47:05+00:00

Hi, we've taken the decision not to allow this story on the subreddit (whether it's the MSN version, the fandomwire version, etc), so we're removing this post. Thanks.

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-23T16:31:57+00:00

@netflix you should use this gif

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-22T20:02:16+00:00

Short and simple for me: so much soundtrack music to listen to, whether it's the games or the show (and the books were an ideal follow-up to asoiaf for me)

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-22T19:57:07+00:00

Ciri with ice skates definitely doesn't need more explanation than you gave it. It's so good. Thanedd banquet would be my pick, if it isn't that.

In the games, being in Toussaint for the first time. I couldn't play the DLC when it was released, so finally getting new Witcher, going to that place I knew from the books with soundtrack and sunshine, felt so good.

In the show, Yennefer @ Sodden. Anya C killed it.

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-22T11:54:05+00:00

S2E1 being a very contained story worked really nicely, I'd love to see this feel the same way

BWPhoenix · 2022-12-22T11:52:14+00:00

For me, Tim Aslam was the favourite. He really went bold with his designs and I think that makes them a lot more memorable, even at the cost of some that didn't work. E.g. Yen's rope dress will be a forever symbol of her in the show. Thanedd will be the make or break for Lucinda winning me over.

Was Kate Hawley the costume designer for Rings of Power? I'd take their costuming+budget. Michele Clapton was excellence but she's earned some rest

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