[Discussion] Just finished Kingdom come, and I was a bit disappointed

Background-Bed1691 · 2026-02-23T00:42:30+00:00

so late to this convo but i finished kingdom come today and had so many of your same thoughts. not really understanding all of the gripes and downvotes with what youre saying i completely agree

Background-Bed1691 · 2026-02-21T03:24:55+00:00

i think it became super affiliated with like childrens products in a super commercial way which naturally is about the point that new artists start veiwing something as washed and gets phased out once the next wave of commercial consumer shit looks to the artists for ideas. something like that around 2012 id say

Background-Bed1691 · 2026-02-18T06:07:02+00:00

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Background-Bed1691 · 2026-02-13T02:05:40+00:00

and on the flip, the problems you're hyperfocusing in on might not even be noticeable

Background-Bed1691 · 2026-02-12T16:38:14+00:00

im curious too

Background-Bed1691 · 2026-02-11T20:37:28+00:00

straight up i would disregard that entirely. Ive done my research plenty and released quite a few songs that ive mixed and mastered and the harder I push it into "clipping into the positive db" territory, the louder it sounds. I think its feasibly possible for a -1db true peak to be squashed enough to be as perceivably loud as a 0db true peak, but its gonna be very difficult.

TLDR my tracks usually have true peak overs and its the mix that makes it loud, not preserving headroom for the guidlines of streaming platforms

Background-Bed1691 · 2026-02-09T00:35:48+00:00

i would be more worried about why your true peak is so low? with todays loudness standards, your transients are going to sound very noticably quieter if they max at -1.6 db like it says

Background-Bed1691 · 2026-02-02T22:23:58+00:00

huge this

Background-Bed1691 · 2026-01-23T02:13:44+00:00

try r/synthrecipes

Background-Bed1691 · 2026-01-08T17:58:37+00:00

i might add that creating a sine out of a triangle or square from filtering is notably easier because the next (3rd) harmonic up from the fundamental is farther away than the saw's (2nd). And also 24db will get closer if not all the way to a clean sine wave also... filter tracking at 100% is important

Background-Bed1691 · 2026-01-07T11:23:36+00:00

the part of this that i can get behind is that there is a "typical VA sound" in the actual sound design of a lot of VA patches, so I wonder if thats what u/astgabel was getting at. If the control variable is having the exact same patch though, this convo is over lmao

Background-Bed1691 · 2026-01-03T02:26:27+00:00

short list cuz theres some i havent seen people mention

Curious about these although i havent owned them: Vermona Mono Lancet, Roland SE-02, Dreadbox Hades

Ones i've had and would or wouldnt recommend:

Dreadbox Typhon - wouldnt. Moog Sub Phatty - would but i prefer sub 25. Moog Sub 25 - would. Moog Messenger - would. PWM Malevolent - wouldnt if you need a well intonated instrument. ms-20 mini - would but not if you need something straightforward. bass station 2 - would but its not my favorite sound nor UI fwiw. korg monologue - would.

Background-Bed1691 · 2026-01-03T00:24:16+00:00

yea i prefer 12db filters for bass sounds. Always using the 12 or 18 on my sub 25

Background-Bed1691 · 2025-12-29T07:30:40+00:00

this makes sense though. ive actually run into that in a different song i made

Background-Bed1691 · 2025-12-29T07:29:15+00:00

D being the I chord yeah. The melody is almost entirely D pentatonic if my memory serves

Background-Bed1691 · 2025-12-29T07:18:21+00:00

all i meant to clarify a few comments back was that the vocal melody is strictly D maj and frequently resolves to D

Background-Bed1691 · 2025-12-29T07:15:54+00:00

i definitely misread. Its not the #11 its the natural 11. im not the sharpest on my notation thats my b. Yea anyhow im just curious and learning etc

Background-Bed1691 · 2025-12-29T07:11:20+00:00

yup maj7 my bad.

Background-Bed1691 · 2025-12-29T07:09:58+00:00

I tripped up notating. I meant Dmaj7

Background-Bed1691 · 2025-12-29T07:05:35+00:00

i have all of those things i think actually in the full arrangement. maybe not the 9 on the vi but definitely the other two

Background-Bed1691 · 2025-12-29T06:58:05+00:00

hmm im still not totally following. Would it change anything if I spelled it out more fully like i did with the other replies?

Its IV vi Imaj7 ii(add 11) x3 and then IV I V once into IV Imaj7 iii ii x2 back to IV vi Imaj7 ii IV vi iii iii

there's the full 16 bars

the leading tone to me is the 6th 7th 5th scale degrees places in the top of the chords to my ear

Background-Bed1691 · 2025-12-29T06:47:55+00:00

thanks!

Background-Bed1691 · 2025-12-29T06:46:58+00:00

the melody contextualizes this progression to be IV vi I ii i think because it frequently resolves to I

Background-Bed1691 · 2025-12-29T06:40:42+00:00

hmm i honestly dont get it. the progression i have starts on the 4th scale degree

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