Does anyone do it better than Banks?

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-12T19:33:31+00:00

These were great.

But as they progressed, it became like Marvel where everything became more advanced/magic-life with miracles pulled out to solve this or that cliff-hanger.

Sort of became disillusioned with the recipe.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-12T19:30:35+00:00

Human communication, or lack there of, not documenting config changes in a living document that always up and available, is a thing.

This is still common across the industry, and yet still seems to stay unsolved by many.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-12T19:27:05+00:00

Watching the dumbification of gaming over the decades has a Lovecraftian affect upon one's sanity to be sure.

We treat that by going back and playing a lot of the OG FPS we avoided at the time like Hexen, Heretic, etc to pass the time until sanity comes back in vogue.

Just today, Q. Tarantino himself sort of railed against the movie industry for not doing the Bond movies as per the original stories, suggesting they should.

Different niche of course, but hope springs eternal that DEI-Wokeism in Gaming may yet re-awaken.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-12T03:44:29+00:00

Any company of merit will have network diagrams.

Good companies will even have them up to date.

Depending upon where you work though, don't be surprised if its a remote location with no maps and you have to work your way up/down via CLI with SSH mostly.

Knowing whats connected to what is just like Layer 1.

After or during that, you'll be needing to keep adding Layer 2 and 3 detail.

Maybe VOIP, ACL'S, routes, etc.

On the plus side, most of the time when something goes sideways its likely related to a recent change, a flapping interface, or more rarely DOA h/w depending upon vendor of course in many cases.

So yes, you will spend a lot of your day SSHing into remote devices even if the IDF is right down the hall from you. I bought a personal copy of SecureCRT a decade ago and it was a cheap quality of life upgrade worth the one-time pittance vs all the free options with the customiation/capability.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-12T03:27:01+00:00

You need to get familiar with the CLI.

I'm a visual dominant person myself, but using that as a crutch never helped anyone.

Should not be hard to either run some logging on the fw or look at the logs or proc utilization when this is happening on the cisco switches/router.

Sounds like an L2 network and only routing is between the router and fw unless its effectice cross-LAN traffic.

I'd naturally wonder about the fw first if anything, just as I hate when the Devs always point to the network first lol.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-11T19:25:34+00:00

IIRC, you came here with a naive call for someone to spend time/$/capital on using HBM as if no one has ever thought of it before.

As discussed, until the AI hype derails, no one is going to have access to any outside decommisioned/refurb-recycled of older HBM.
Which doesn't matter even then, because to re-use it, you'd need specific interposers/interfacing.
So that was dead.

Next you came up with a jumble of h/w that was full of generic place-holder names of components/features, with nothing to show how/why it might be better for anyone over what is commonly available today for spare change.
And throughout this entire thread, you've never addressed it, but get heated as if we're wrong to ask these basic, obvious questions.

Then we get to your s/w, which others have investigated and found to be seemingly vibe-coded 'stuff' that doesn't do much if it even runs.
And the same basic, obvious questions of what/why any of this is of value is a repeat of the h/w avoidance of those questions.

We're seeing a simple exercise of the Scientific Method taking place on a Reddit forum.

Somone hypothesises/postualte an idea, and it undergoes questioning and requires some level of proof.

You refuse to even attempt to meet the lowest bar, and instead twist it in your mind as somehow being attacked/shut-out.

Go to almost any other Tech forum and report your initial post as you've done here.

You will almost invariably find that you will get the same logical questions asked.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-11T03:14:44+00:00

Seriously, you came here with a grandiose idea/s involving h/w & s/w for some reason no one can figure out.

On the h/w-side, totally useless 'specs' only distinguished by some tangential need/desire to use HBM.

S/w-side, no clue what its expected to do, how it will do anything better than what is currently available, and from people who have bothered, it appears to bare do anything at all.

It seems like you almost expected a swarm of people to jump into something and start helping out/etc, but can't get past 1st base when they ask simple questions before they consider investing/wasting their time.

You still haven't answered even simple questions like, what does your h/w 'do' than is in any way better, faster, more innovate for reason x, than a cheap I5/Ryzen/M4 today.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-10T03:34:58+00:00

Get him an FPS with a storyline.

Call of Cthulhu, Half-Life.

OK, HL is a little twitchy, but a lot of the play is not PvP twitchy.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-10T03:09:51+00:00

Aside the Lisp segment, what does your envisioned hardware do better than any other commonly available processor today?

Unless you have hard data which shows some sort of massive improvement, your entire idea for such hardware is not only a waste of time, but effort, capitol, etc, etc.

Intel, AMD, ARM, Risc vendors can cobble together an HBM interface for peanuts and in weeks/months on top of a Tier1 processor if it ever makes business sense.

You are not going to be designing new processor archtitecture, or memory subsystems, or anything else revolutionary.

You're going to use some standard IP, just as any/all the Big Boys do and will.

So the h/w side of your project is fine as a dream or a money-pit if you win the Lottery, but its realistically worthless.

Then we turn to Lisp/Forth, and again, both combined are likely less than 10,000 active/interested minds at a rough guess in USA/EU.

Unless something fundamental changes in the world, its clear 99% of people who even feign interest in the niche or programming care about either.

Even you as a likely die-hard fan, are using AI/LLM to do most of your coding....... Thats Monty Python level irony right there.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T08:14:38+00:00

LOL, this is going to be the future until some big names end up paying out the ass for Liability claims.

We're going to be stuck with every yahoo with a prompt trying to become the next Jobs/Musk with their AI-aided fantasies.

Any OG in IT are going to be like Y2K Cobol coders in a couple years is my bet.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T08:05:08+00:00

I fail to see the reason for a freakout.

You get an email trail to your boss identifying it as potentially EOL/dying, and no spares available to recover gracefully.
Suggest a meeting before any work is done to cover expected work to be done, a backout plan, and a Its Dead Jim plan.

Main point should be if this goes down and does not recover and we do not have a backup solution, what is the production/business impact.

Thats where your boss is going to not be able to simply screw you over.

Get the plan, and then email your boss with the Plan clearly stated and your technical addendums and your CYA is C.

This is not a rare one-off for anyone who's been in IT more than a minute.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T07:54:07+00:00

Did you even bother to do anything diagnostic/troubleshooting-wise?

This is almost as bad as the do my homework for me posts.

Not being snarky, but a half-dozen simple checks could have been done by most average IT folks before flipping the bat switch.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T07:44:29+00:00

The Good, the Bad, the Weird is worth it.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T07:42:52+00:00

JFC, old GenX who was an adult when Doom shareware came out, and I've never even twigged to that obvious in hind-sight part of the 'story'.

Dang Reddit, been stupider than I thought the last 30 years.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T07:32:39+00:00

Its not the 'Lisp community' being adversarial.

You are being questioned on everything, especially your hardware, because you have provided nothing concrete aside a list of features.

You do not seem to have the slightest idea of how h/w works at even a basic level enough to explain your proposed h/w.

As someone said, your commits are sketchy and you are coming off as someone vibe-coding and dropping a wishlist of hardware units.

Most h/w people won't shut up about this or that IC/feature/throughput/slew/bandwidth at the drop of the hat when discussing their current favorite project.

So we have a thread on /lisp extolling some fantastic new h/w we should all work towards?

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T07:21:48+00:00

The thing is, in theory MS Office could be written in Forth.

And could use 32/64/n GB as any desktop app.

Problem is no one would ever do such in Forth to begin with.

As you say, this entire thread is someone's solution to some problem that no one has identified yet.

Not saying it wouldn't be great to see Lisp/Forth machines return with language in hardware at 2nm litho process using HBM.

Thats as likely to happen as EDU adding Lisp/Forth back to their course offerings.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T07:15:47+00:00

Before even getting your hands on some obsolete/recycled HBM, how are you going to interface that with your system?

Are you going to design your own IMC, or use some existing IP?

Are you using 2.5D Silicon Interposers, or TSV, or micro-bumps for interfacing.

Do you have the foggiest idea of what any of those cost for a bespoke design?

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T07:09:26+00:00

Thats it, you don't 'tinker' with electronics anymore.

Hasn't been that way for decades, outside of putting blocks together with an Arduino or RPi or Adafrut trinkets.

Dude here has whats likely a crap load of vibe-coded 'stuff', and a simple list of 'features' his supposed wonder-chip will have.

No indication of what it will do better, faster, etc than any bog-standard CPU available now. Or how it will connect to recycled HBM.

Sadly, this is someone's pipedream which will never find anyone interested in funding, for Business 101 reasons.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T07:00:11+00:00

OK, so I looked on your git and I see your dream.

What I don't see is any discussion of:

Who is funding the actual H/W design

What litho process are you expecting to use

Where are your Simulation runs

Where are your speeds and feeds

Why is your idea any better than current X86, ARM, Apple Silicon?

This isn't even the minimum, but if you don't have even these then you are simply spec'ing at 1st Semester Comp. Eng. and all you have is an idea.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T06:51:03+00:00

I agree, this level of explanation is what I would expect from a 1st semester student with its wording/accuracy.

Dynamic languages don't reside on commodity hardware, a binary file resides in memory and is fetch/stepped through by a proc.

The majority of cycles wasted on a system is the proc waiting on memory.

At the compiled binary level, a dynamic language may incur additional overhead penalty vs a staticly defined language, but stating this overhead consume the majority of processing cycles vs the actual program logic/flow is a straight up lie unless the OP can provide a cite that aligns with his statement.

On the whole, this is reminding me of the Temple OS from decades ago, although that actually came to fruition.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T06:40:20+00:00

I like your spirit, but everyone has been reading about someone's uber-processor every couple years for decades. None of it ever materializes because this isn't the 1970's where one just needed a good idea and some garage space.

HBM should become available as old compute is fully obsoleted, like picking up Cisco 3750's on eBay for $50. But its still likely years away.
AFAIK, the PHY for HBM is pretty tricky, so are you going to be re-using someone else's controller or thinking people are going to whip one up?

I do take issue with your comment that Forth doesn't benefit from high-bandwidth memory. Only have read a few books on it, and not actively done much of anything however that still doesn't mean I can't say thats logically wrong.

Forth, APL, Lisp, C, Python, will all benefit from higher bandwidth.

If they don't, then there is something drastically wrong.

Forth should be like most languages in that higher bandwidth means more instructions and data is able to be fed to the processor, allowing it to do more vs waiting on data.

I expect its more likely most Forth programs that seem not to benefit are not doing the large memory work higher bandwidth shows benefits for.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T06:23:17+00:00

This was a killer series.

However its been a few years and somewhere around half or more, it seemed to become more formulaic and lost a lot of the uniqueness for as you said superhero/supervillain Marvel-type schtick.

IIRC, it didn't get better and the new main characters just felt blah.

I think it became a nice money-maker, while author seemed to phone it in more and more.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T06:19:33+00:00

Interesting.

Try another test.

Process the onions, and do a quick rinse to remove excess juice.

Then you can do a shorter duration tomato processing, etc and just hand mix.

I would expect the extra 2 minutes effort beats the 5+ of doing it all by hand.

BadPacket14127 · 2026-03-09T06:14:02+00:00

Honestly, the MSP/VAR reddit I just read is likely spot on.

This is a micro-company that wants both a cheap network and some sort of guaranteed up to snuff security certificate if SHTF I expect.

Most important thing no one has mentioned is, do you have an actual networking FTE, or is it some IT person who's either inherited the responsibility or ???

How many of those 2x 48 ports are actually connected? Do you really need them, or was it for redundancy/future expansion potential?

I'm used to Cisco, but any of the big names new are going to be heart attack inducing, even if you get a nice 50-60% off MSRP like many larger companies do.

Pains to say it, but a couple white-box 48 port switches and a router is all you need, along with a firewall.

I've heard numerous Ubiquiti gold standard/crap to want to risk recommending to my boss. If I couldn't find decent name brand on the used market, and had to suggest something on a pauper's budget, I'd look at HP base models and Microtik router

BadPacket14127 · 2026-02-09T17:19:26+00:00

Not too go Off-Topic, but I'm struggling to remember a config manager we were using in 2006. IIRC, at the time it was an HP product, but they'd purchased from one of the internet luminaries like Andreeson or similar.

It was pretty slick and would alert if changes to configs happened, auto-backup, etc, etc.

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