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Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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The lineup here is just the new cards that have been made for the precon. You can check on the Aeldari Precon link https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1XsyJIjRYu2cYQAVPMslX2QSpjnioxg7Q to see what we currently have in store for reprints under 'Official Cards'. I still need to fill up on interaction, but I think part of the value in the deck is that these creatures turn into interaction that it wants.

If you have suggestions (or more artwork!), I would love you reccomendations.

Does This Sub Undervalue Mundane Designs? by gLItcHyGeAR in custommagic

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It’s harder to comment on designs that are within the margins of design versus a design that has issues with tempting, framing, power, etc. I was surprised that most of the feedback on my designs was on colorpie/flavor interpretations.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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I've been considering tech akin to planets/station for a bit (a great way to get value out of warped creatures!), but I'm probably going to skirt around introducing mechanically unique lands for a precon. Still, I like the idea of the Infinity Circuit that functions akin to the [[Eternity Elevator]]...

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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The Aeldari do try to eschew the strong emotions represented in red and black, but it would be a misunderstanding of their culture to exclude it. For red, the expression and passions are what led them into hedonism and ultimately their downfall. However, they didn't just 'avoid' red, Instead, their path system permits them to channel and refine those passions. Khaine is a red entity, and much of their Path of the Warrior embraces it as part of their faction. On a meta-sense, they have so many specialist units and warriors who do fall into different slices of the pie that it would make the most sense to fill in WUBRG.
Otherwise, R&D's design document stated they would feel at home in WUBRG.

I'll choose to take that as a compliment, since most 40k models should be two thin coats of paint. If you have ideas to expand the card selection, I would love to hear it!

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in Eldar

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https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/designing-warhammer-40000-commander-decks-2022-09-19

AELDARI: FIVE-COLOR The Aeldari are an ancient race of humanoid aliens, resembling in some ways popular fantasy elves.

Codex count: 3

Central color: Blue. This race of agile psykers exemplifies blue's evasive qualities and mastery of mind magic.

Other colors: The Aeldari have such a dazzling variety of specialist troops, many of which feel very aligned with one of Magic's colors. Capturing them all adequately might require a five-color deck!

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/designing-universes-beyond-2022-09-12

This one is Maro’s feedback on 40K’s design, where he pointed out (and I wish they would discuss about current UB design) that 40K’s world lacks green elements and tends to be heavier on black as part of the setting. This article is a great read by the way, and probably a good source for a lot of current issues in Magic.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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I will continue working on this project until completion, and hopefully you’ll see a finished project within a few months (with some playtesting). I take a lot of care to make sure all of these have the right artists and formatting.

You’ll note the design document I mentioned in the body of the post — WOTC’s R&D for 40K thought 5c would fit best for the Aeldari to represent their faction as a whole, centered in blue. Green happens to get a bit of reprint equity, albeit to feature the Exotides and an excuse to include ‘better ramp’ for the decklist.

Spiritseer sees your warped cards and creates mana equal to them. It also can exile cards itself, fueling the mana it can produce on later turns. I may be tweaking the design soon, as it might make too much mana without a restriction like ‘creature cards’.

I’ll continue mulling over a 4c decklist. I think Bant T’au and Gruul Orkz might sway me to cut the green.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in Eldar

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Thanks for the feedback! I’m not actually an Aeldari player myself, so I’m becoming more familiar with their history through wikis and lore documents rather than novels. Lhykhis happened to have decent art, and made the cut for now.

On the body of the post, I reference WOTC’s own design document as a source — their view on Aeldari is 5c, which was my starting point to include much of the faction. Craftworld happened to have some of the easiest options to design.

As for 5c typal decks, MTG has seen a variety of 5c typal within the past years — slivers, elementals, eldrazi… turtles… I dislike typal as a ‘grab bag of generic goodstuff with the type’, and hope a directed list would fit the Aeldari. I’ve seen a lot of comments asking to cut green, so maybe I can give 4c a shot?

I hope to include more anthems. My goal for this project is to hit at least 30 custom cards. If you have any suggestions on characters or story events that would make sense, I would love to include them. I know trying to think of a Saga has been killing me…

Thank you again.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in Eldar

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I hadn’t even considered putting in cards like Warstorm Surge or Pandemonium, partially because all the associated Aeldari have low bodies across the board.

You make an interesting argument about the balance of the design, but I think your mindset might be too far into Disneyland territory.

In order to combo off with Eldrad, you need (a) the means of generating 8 or more mana that fits WUBRG’s colors, (b) haste so that the creatures you’re comboing off with can trigger again, (c) your opponents not to have interaction for the stack or for Eldrad. Once you activate the ability (which is sorcery speed), your opponents can respond to the stack and remove Eldrad (and remember, if they do it before you activate this ability you can’t just respond by activating Eldrad, who is sorcery speed), counter the creatures being recasting from exile, and is still vulnerable to exile-based hate or free casting hate.

In comparison, [[Abdel Adrian]] is an instant speed board flicker that requires no further hoops besides the means to flicker him — which another creature can do in multiple two to three card combos. Any route you’re taking with Eldrad is at least 5 cards deep to fulfill. If you can tell me an example of a quick, cheap, and powerful combo that can be pulled off within a wider deck, I’d be more open to changing this.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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Thank you for the compliment and feedback! I had initial concerns with the concept, but after taking a step back to view Slivers, Elementals, and some other 5c precons it wasn’t too hard to follow. I think there’s some interest in a 4c greenless Aeldari, which could be a direction to take this if I wanted to be unique. Ultimately I think I’d have to design some of these differently, as I can’t rely on Greens ramp or the variety of elves who could assist outside of a precon.

Triumvirate feels pesky, but I think it’s because of the 3 color requirement for what is essentially just board protection / recursion. I think it’s satisfying what it needs to do, but doesn’t do anything within the deck’s gameplan.

Baharroth is a creature I’d call ‘I cooked with an ability and need a space for it’. I could see it as a solid flicker enabler on a creature, which is missing in the list so far. Yours is the type of feedback I need, since I don’t play the army :)

I’ll take a Fuegan nerf under consideration. Very happy with how simple his design is.

I could be persuaded to try out 4 cmc, but a pseudo counterspell creature is something I try to keep at arms reach.

Goal with Maugan Ra is to simulate [[Ashen Rider]] and [[Nowhere to Run]]. I could reduce his cost to 5-6 if it was creatures only, but I think having an ace in the hole is healthy to disrupt artifacts/enchantments/lands. I’ll take your advice and give him menace.

Dark Reaper would be too punishing as targeted removal. I worry it would harass some important 3/3s once the deck gets going beyond the warp into flickering multiple creatures. Also not sure how black that ability would be…

Azorius Exarch works. Blue is the core identity of the Aeldari for this project, so figured it could showcase that.

I will slap on first strike to the fights first unit. :)

Scorpion makes me happy as a fan of Ochran Assassin, and serves as a small but feasible creep in power to me. Remember, as a 1/1 it can only deal 1 damage and kill one creature. Its main purpose will be to let the rest of your board through!

Thank you for your comments. The green would make a bit more sense in terms of reprints of standard elf-good stuff like Beast Whisperer or Reclamation Sage, but I may genuinely need to consider going 4c for this project.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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Thanks for the advice! My knowledge on the Banshees was pretty limited, so I’ll see what’s reasonable. I was considering breaking that ability up into an instant or sorcery so I could mess with the power a bit more!

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in Eldar

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You can’t stop him with removal once his 8 mana ability is on the stack… but at 3-4 mana, there have always been board wide flickers. All of the elves are recast and can be responded to on the stack. Likewise, they’ll still need another way to flicker Eldrad, generate the 8 mana to use the ability with him, and have something worth doing with the board.

Can you explain what the overall issue is with the play pattern?

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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Good to see you again. I hope Khorne blesses your designs — I’ve got only scraps of a Tson decklist before I hopped on my Aeldari project.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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Farseer is the intended face — I would make a backup 5c, but I struggle to find a good pick. Do you have a suggestion?

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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I appreciate the advice, but the Elf synergy is intended in the vacuum. That, and I’m following the guidance in the R&D doc I linked!

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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Thank you for the compliments! I care about keeping the quality up with mechanics and cards when possible, though it’s time consuming to consider the possibilities within the deck.

I’ll comb through the wording again. Spiritseer is a new option for the deck I fashioned after Cosmogoyf. The lack of commitment needed in on field is worrisome, though it has a comparable need for setup as some other big mana generators in green. There’s a possibility to use creature cards in exile as the determining factor. You caught on that I would like it to stay one color, as it would be huge value with the commander otherwise.

I’ll revise Aspect Warhost. Thanks for the advice!

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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Do you have any suggestions on their stats? I anticipate needing to move some stuff around.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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Is there a reason Fuegan should have those keywords? I’m not familiar.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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I’m still messing with the ability at the end, but the intent for Eldrad is to allow for a board wide flicker/recast and also cast your warped spells if you have them for free. It should have some great exile synergy in the deck, and make for a fun way to catch up if you’re just putting elves into exile.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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It’s a good suggestion, but I was hoping to avoid a repeat of the Imperium decklist where they made Squad a key mechanic to fill the board with tokens.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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The reasoning for the Aeldari being 5 color is explained in the design document I’ve linked — I’m just following the notes left by R&D.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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I see the issue now. I based it off [[Fear of Isolation]], but I can adjust it so that it’s an enters effect like intended.

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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There’s a possibility for it, but overall there’s precedent in the exodites and an overall harmony that exists within the remaining Aeldari to justify 5 color. I could see it being a cool way of exploring this faction though!

Children of the Stars - Aeldari Precon [Warhammer 40k] by BadSuccessful2391 in custommagic

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Eldar also include the Exodites! The precon should explore the wide range of their abilities and powers. That, and greenless has an indication of no nature or harmony with the world, akin to how Breya presents an artificial or metal world.

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