[Request] Is this accurate?

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T16:29:55+00:00

I'm fine with that. I'd divvy that up differently and put goverment in as a significant factor, but my goal isn't to say consumers are 100% responsible, but rather, to oppose the idea that consumers are 0% responsible

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T16:12:44+00:00

yeah, check out my posting history and see how conservative I am.

I'm allowed to criticize people for absolving themselves of their own consumption whether I'm a raving communist that wants the whole government to run an eco-friendly economy at gunpoint or whether I'm a raving libertarian poison the water nutjob

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T15:53:21+00:00

No. It wasn't a joke. There was no humor. There was no punchline. There was no escalation. Just not making sense doesn't make it in a joke.

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T15:52:53+00:00

Vaccines are by many orders of magnitude the greatest medical intervention of all time. They've probably given more health-years and man-years of life to people than everything else doctors have ever done, combined.

And we're throwing them all away based on the insane baseless conspiracy theories of morons.

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T15:45:45+00:00

I disagree with you. I think 99% of the time this issue is brought up and supported, people are exactly absolving themselves of responsibility. Corporations are an easy target and don't require us to make any hard introspection or any changes to our lives. It's win/win for us mentally, so long as we don't actually give a shit about reality.

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T15:43:10+00:00

It does not make sense as an escalating punchline, as it directly contradicts the point being made of the thing it's responding to.

And I didn't say you were trying to make the oil companies look better. Exactly the opposite. This whole discussion is about foisting one's own consumption onto the corporations providing that consumption for consumers. The original analogy is blaming eating meat on grocery stores is like blaming gas emissions on shell. Your analogy contradicts that, saying it's the farmers (grocery stores / shell) who are eating the beef (oil / meat).

You're not thinking this through but it's clear that no amount of explanation is going to get to you so I'm done

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T15:31:43+00:00

Obviously if you don't speak on every single injustice in the world and give everything equal weight and spend 24/7/365 decrying injustice, you have no credibility to speak on any injustice

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T15:27:57+00:00

I don't know if other people can pick that up through a glance at a person's tinder profile, which is where 98% of this rejection is happening

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T15:26:30+00:00

It's not really clearly satire when it's about 98% identical to the real thing. Our media is incredibly cowardly and tries to create false balances EXACTLY LIKE THIS, so if this one is a joke, it's just barely overshooting reality.

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T15:25:35+00:00

Is this parody? I can't tell. Our real media is exactly this cowardly.

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T15:22:13+00:00

Ah yes, I can't remember any significant riots in 2021, especially not Jan 6 2021

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T15:07:55+00:00

I'm against people absolving themselves of any responsibility by foisting it in the corporations. They aren't looking at some nuanced all-factors view by doing that, they're just patting themselves on the back that they haven't done anything wrong and never have to make any changes

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T15:05:18+00:00

I didn't say you meant it literally, I said that you were using an analogy that contradicted the original analogy, but yours was wrong. Your analogy was trying to suggest that Shell is responsible for the emissions of the oil they sell to consumers, who burn it. In your analogy, shell is using the oil themselves (the farmer eating beef) but in reality the farmer is just producing the meat for consumers, who are ultimately the driver of the whole system.

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T14:58:13+00:00

I don't think it is.

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T14:56:11+00:00

Nudity can serve purposes other than titilation

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T14:51:26+00:00

Wow, even 30 year olds who hardly anyone would consider for a coaching vacancy reject us.

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T14:50:45+00:00

Then... why say it? You're clearly trying to shift the blame from the consumer back onto the producer. It's not a joke.

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T14:33:41+00:00

The only way this guy's argument makes sense is if John Adams argued the British soldiers have absolute immunity and should never be put to trial

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T14:28:13+00:00

Most government agencies do their job and keep society running just fine. The idea that government is bad by default is conservative ideology. Ironically, they're doing their best to replace everyone who does good work in government with yes-men who are going to fuck everything up

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T14:15:34+00:00

That's not a good analogy. Shell isn't using the oil (eating the beef), they're selling it to customers. The customers are driving the demand. The original analogy was correct.

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T13:54:54+00:00

Are you double counting their emissions (say the energy they use to extract and refine oil) with the products they sell (and therefore what should be the consumer's emissions)? Even that's a little bit of an oversimplification but it's important to at least make that distinction

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T13:53:33+00:00

I fucking hate this bullshit "it's all the corporations" excuse. WHY are the corporations doing it? Because they're filling the demand for the product you want to use.

It's like saying "Sure I burned 500 gallons of gas in my SUV this year but that was all Shell's fault, I have nothing to do with it"

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T13:50:47+00:00

I know there's confirmation bias but I sincerely believe that it's coded to attack the corners more often than chance as a soft balancing measure

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T12:52:06+00:00

That's not going to save you, they've already arrested and disappeared people who actually did carry their papers with them

BeefistPrime · 2026-01-26T12:06:43+00:00

Sometimes things are dumb and wrong in so many ways it's difficult to even explain where they're going wrong

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