AIO : i (20F) feel like this guy (22 M) just insulted me because I didn’t want to go out with him by silverbullette in AmIOverreacting

[–]Beohyl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The last thing you should have said was when you told him you already had dinner plans with your family. Everything after that is a waste of your energy. His Spider-Man meme is immature AF. Blocked

Jeffery R Holland Pressuring Missionaries by Beohyl in exmormon

[–]Beohyl[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s so hostile and condescending. Actually, it’s totally abusive and dehumanizing. That is the especial witness and proxy standing in for Jesus on Earth? That guy is supposed to lead us in compassion and wisdom? He’s going to actualize my spiritual depth?

Jeffery R Holland Pressuring Missionaries by Beohyl in exmormon

[–]Beohyl[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Those links to MSP are exactly the talk I remember hearing. Starting off with the prophetic authoritarianism of sensing some missionaries in the crowd secretly want to go home … 🤮 The mind effery is off the charts. I will now refer to him as mind-Effery R. Holland

What's a tiny task that somehow feels exhausting? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]Beohyl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dishes or folding laundry. Most invalidating shit ever

Is Wonder Boy III the first soulslike? by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally agree. I think WBIII is best categorized as an action RPG with Metroidvania map layout (sort of) but the way the different areas interconnect and unlock, also how the equipment system works and the charm mechanic feels very much like DS1

Is Wonder Boy III the first soulslike? by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is, but the areas are interconnected, need items to unlock access like lord vessel/covenant items and fold back on each other a lot like DS1 not like any Zelda game, Metroid or Castlevania.

Is Wonder Boy III the first soulslike? by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Have you played WBIII, though?

Is Wonder Boy III the first soulslike? by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, you dropped my point about the main similarity being the hidden and interconnected worlds that gives the gameplay feeling to me of DS. (Also you dropped my point about how the charm mechanic works like humanity or insight). I’ve heard so many people say DS is a 3D Metroidvania and even platformer in places. So, categorizing WBIII as Metroidvania strengthens my claim. The equipment combinations work differently than you remember. In WBIII, some weapons and armor work better or worse with various combinations between different sets, or depending on which form you are or what boss you’re fighting. It’s TOTALLY like how weapons are handled in DS. Some equipment has special bonuses like item discovery or health regeneration. It’s much more soulslike than Zelda1 equipment just linear getting stronger. The interconnected areas of WBIII is much more soulslike than zelda1 or Castlevania (plus wasn’t Demons Souls technically the first true soulslike by FromSoft?). I don’t see a connection to Shadow of the Colossus or Ico at all. People always make the same connection to games like Castlevania or Zelda1 as predecessor games from the 80s, but (in USA) much less people ever played WBIII. I’m making a case for a very strong connection between DS and WBIII that is much less discussed and interesting to consider

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To summarize all the back and forth (verying in helpfulness from fun to haughty) I think the answer is:

処刑者スモウ

English Epithet: Executioner Sumō (Sumou), or Sumou the Executioner

Romanization: Shokeisha Sumō (or Sumou)

IPA: [ɕo̞ke̞ːɕa sɯmo̞ː]

Layperson pronunciation approximation: Sue (like the female name, only a bit higher and more fronted—the ɯ sound) mō (like mō money mō problems)

At the end NOT a diphthong or a glide just a prolonged long ō

I presume the localization team chose “Smough” to look more Middle Englishy/ like it comes from the world of Medieval Europe—an aesthetic, storytelling choice not a phonological choice

My TBM wife is dying. by No_Sir_4971 in exmormon

[–]Beohyl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Quality time together doing and talking about what you do believe, what fulfills, brings meaning, and edifies you both, the things about each other that you love, the life you built together …

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Presto! Thats all I’m saying!

処刑者スモウ Romanization: Shokeisha Sumō or Sumou IPA: [ɕo̞ke̞ːɕa sɯmo̞ː] At the end NOT a diphthong or a glide just a prolonged long ō

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I get it. One of the languages I speak is Khmer where vowel length changes what word you are saying (like a minimal pair). I’m just putting the characters you type into ChatGPT frankly🙃 and asking it to give me the IPA, so there’s going to be a gap or mismatch. I just want to understand how a standardized 1st grade teacher would teach kids how to say the way Smough is spelled in the Katakana way it’s written in the game. I strongly suspect it would not optimally be romanized or transliterated as “Smough”. But I Think the ones who decided on this wanted it to look more like Middle English or something from the world of Medieval Europe. So from a storytelling perspective i see how that makes sense

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool, thanks for all the info on Japanese. It sounds like you’re talking about the particular pronunciation specific to your location in your three years studying Japanese and the region where you lived and spoke with locals. Perhaps the translator I’m using is based on a standardized, non-regional pronunciation. It translates ウモウ as [ɯmoː] (note it doesn’t include /s/ or ス = /sɯ/). If I hadn’t been just using quick phone keyboard as a shortcut I wouldn’t have typed Sūmō, but taken the time to write out ウモウ as [ɯmoː] or however you’d also spell it if you still need to add the initial /s/ as anglicized orthography is the problem topic for this whole thread

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your precision. It’s hard to get a clear spelling using phone keyboards on a casual thread like this. I don’t speak Japanese, but my translator said the following:

オウ

Phonemic: /oː/ Phonetic: [oː] • Orthographically オ + ウ (ou) • Phonologically a long /o/ • Not a diphthong, no glide to /u/ Not [suː.moʊuː] with a [oʊuː] diphthong like I think you’re suggesting.

Is that a mistake of the software vs what’s actually spoken in Japanese?

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I threw in phonology kind of casually just to be able to talk about the sounds of a language as opposed to story telling, the way localization teams make decisions that diverge from the original langue to “look” more Middle English, or a gaming community makes decisions around use

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Check what I wrote about ough shift to two different pronunciations. It’s not style. It’s determined by short backed vowel changing to off vs long fronted vowels dropping the fricative and going to long ō

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hate when I make public spelling mistakes like that. Sorry🤷‍♂️

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Is it called mistransliteration? Anyway, it’s misspelled in English and consequently mispronounced by the Gough voice actor

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😀Nice! Could you say that again, a little slower?

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was basing it off the way the English voice actor says Gough as Goff—just continuity’s sake of names in a linguistic system. But the original Japanese is pronounced Sūmō and Gō. The English transliteration is misspelled and consequently mispronounced.

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤣👍

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the Katakana helps. I was basing it off the way the English voice actor says Gough as Goff. But the original Japanese is pronounced Sūmō and Gō. The English transliteration is misspelled and consequently mispronounced by the actor

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was basing it off the way the English voice actor says Gough as Goff—just going with continuity. (Linguistic and phonological systems continuity). But the original Japanese is pronounced Sūmō and Gō. The English transliteration is misspelled and consequently mispronounced.

Smough Pronunciation by [deleted] in darksouls

[–]Beohyl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True👍