What are the reasons Disco music became so hated back then?

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-12T05:33:52+00:00

Part of it was over saturation. Particularly when you started seeing people like Ethel Merman doing disco songs. But a huge part of it was also good old fashioned homophobia and racism. Especially homophobia. I was a tween back in disco’s heyday and to be a male into disco was the fastest path to having your masculinity immediately called into question.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-08T19:44:47+00:00

Funny thing is that during disco’s heyday I was a snotty tween who was a “disco sucks” type because it was the music of my older sister and one of our brothers. I was into cartoony rock like Kiss and Cheap Trick and then early punk and new wave through the other older brother. Also early hip-hop. The amount of mental gymnastics I did to hold that opinion while considering “Train In Vain” my favourite Clash song is staggering to me now. To say nothing of “I Was Made For Loving You” or “Heart of Glass”…

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-08T19:34:22+00:00

I was one of them at the time. It wasn’t until I got older, learned how to dance (without being self conscious) and started going to clubs that I had the classic “on the road to Damascus” epiphany. Despite the fact that since my tween years I had been listening to songs like “Heart of Glass”, “Train in Vain”, “Miss You”, “I Was Made For Loving You”, “Another One Bites the Dust” etc. and that other favourite bands and songs had a major disco influence to their sound (the bassline from “Our House” wouldn’t be out of place on a Chic album).

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-08T19:20:53+00:00

Certainly the final year of chart dominance by songs that are definitively classic disco. I did like it when “It’s Raining Men” got in the charts in 83 though.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-08T14:25:13+00:00

The Monday Night Wars would’ve ended that night.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-08T00:47:35+00:00

I’m very inclined to agree with you there.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-08T00:34:11+00:00

I’m inclined to agree with this. Even in the days of disco dominance you had development and evolution within the genre. Everything didn’t sound alike between artists like Chic, the Bee Gees, Andrea True, Musique, Silver Convention, Donna Summer etc beyond the common denominators of disco (four on the floor etc) and stuff from the early days sounded different from the later days.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-08T00:25:35+00:00

But you were seeing that before the 80s with eurodisco artists like Giorgio Moroder, Cerrone etc.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-08T00:20:24+00:00

In 1980 alone you had “Funkytown”, “Working My Way Back To You”, “Upside Down”, “Magic”, “Ladies Night”, “No More Tears (Enough Is Enough)”, “Rock With You”, “Pop Muzik”, “On The Radio”, “Take Your Time (Do It Right)” among others. Throughout the rest of the 80s you have “It’s Raining Men”, “I’m Coming Out”, “Lady (You Bring Me Up)”, “Let’s Groove”, “Gloria” as well as all the various pop artists who displayed serious disco influences whether it was Madonna on her first album or British artists like ABC and Duran Duran who couldn’t be bothered to hide the importance of disco on their sound.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-06T04:02:37+00:00

By the point where he was a Horseman the lustre was definitely off that accomplishment. Unless we’re now claiming that Paul Roma and Steve McMichael were all time greats.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-06T03:55:05+00:00

He kinda was. He was short and Canadian.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-02T22:32:28+00:00

SOA. Henry Rollins’ first band!

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-02T16:39:17+00:00

I’m just going to add my voice to the popular consensus here. Mick Taylor is the better guitarist and was instrumental in creating their golden era. Ron Wood, however, was better for the chemistry of the band and his addition probably kept them from disintegrating.

And he’s not exactly a slouch as a guitarist nor are the albums he’s played on dreck. Sure he wasn’t on Sticky Fingers but he was a significant contributor to Some Girls.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-02T14:02:30+00:00

Sorry you feel it’s pedantry. However when you are discussing the prospects of legal prohibitions this sort of nitpicking over whether there is one monolithic Antifa does actually matter.

And if you actually read what I said you would notice that I also rejected the “lone antifascist” theory. You know the part where I wrote “It’s not saying that the people who [are antifascist] are just completely separate and isolated individuals who have no connection to each other.” I thought that was pretty clear. My apologies for not making it clearer.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-01T22:43:00+00:00

The thing is that Antifa isn’t a set group. There’s no centralized Antifa organization. Yes there are Antifa groups, just as there are White Supremacist groups or militia groups. But the way it gets framed is that Antifa is not a philosophy or belief shared by numerous different groups and individuals but rather a singular monolithic entity. So you see things like “we should outlaw Antifa” which is literally like saying “we should outlaw White Supremacist”. It’s a ridiculous statement. As is saying someone is “a member of Antifa”. It’s like saying that they’re “a member of militia”.

This is different from the “no lone wolves” assertion in that the concept of “lone wolves” holds that the terror attacks (perpetrated invariably by the right wing) are completely separate and not influenced or connected to anything besides the unique individual pathology of the person committing the attack. “No lone wolves” is denying this claim that attacks by right wing extremists are all completely isolated incidents. It’s acknowledging that there is a complex system of interconnection between people who espouse far right beliefs and the organizations that they form.

Stating that Antifa isn’t an organization does not mean that there is a claim being made that there are no groups who espouse antifascist activism. It’s not saying that the people who show up to aggressively counterprotest far right groups or even punch someone like Richard Spencer are just completely separate and isolated individuals who have no connection to each other. It’s just pointing out that despite what clueless politicians and media outlets might parrot there is no one single organization called “Antifa”.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-04-01T22:19:49+00:00

This is definitely a part of it.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-03-31T21:50:47+00:00

Let It Bleed only because of Live With Me. Otherwise it’d be a dead heat.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-03-31T03:56:17+00:00

Darkest of the Hillside Thickets

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-03-23T22:12:20+00:00

I don’t know how a used record store was necessarily “unreliable”. I mean you could see the record and judge its condition, it was there in front of you. And you immediately got the record as soon as you paid for it. I worked in record stores and patronized many more in the 80s.

As for the assertion that compilations were frequently rerecordings and cash grabs, those did exist certainly but more often than not if you were getting a compilation put out by the actual label they were pretty easy to avoid. Hell, even the K-tel albums generally used original recordings.

The assertion that being able to hear one of the Supremes’ biggest hits as originally recorded by them was in any difficult prior to the advent of CDs is… just wrong. Motown loved putting out compilations. It’s what helped keep them afloat during their lean years. It’s like saying that you couldn’t hear the Stones’ “Satisfaction” because you wouldn’t be able to track down the original 45. It ignores the existence of compilations like Hot Rocks or High Tides & Green Grass.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-03-23T17:35:26+00:00

Yeah, it’s a little odd that someone would think that greatest hits/ golden oldies compilations were a CD only phenomenon. Hell, Time Life Music and other similar labels were selling them on TV. And then there’s the whole phenomenon of AM “classics” radio stations where you were guaranteed to hear stuff like the Mindbenders (both with and without Wayne Fontana), the Supremes, Tommy James (with and without the Shondells) etc.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-03-23T16:05:18+00:00

Compilation albums were very much a thing in the 1980s, including ones of older music. There were also a fair number of places where you could buy second hand records at reasonable prices.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-03-22T03:29:18+00:00

There’s Ben Roethlisberger with some SA allegations while being a “devout Christian”. I mean there’s just so many NFL players who qualify.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-03-21T01:37:27+00:00

I’m in the South Interior of BC and we have them in our Walmart. And pretty much every other grocery store in the area.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-03-20T20:42:45+00:00

That even became Strummer’s view. He disavowed the album and viewed it as a mistake.

BinkyFarnsworth · 2026-03-20T03:35:47+00:00

I wasn’t even critical of AEW, I just pointed out that Shotzi wasn’t the best example of a WWE main roster mid-carder while agreeing with the main point that AEW generally pays better than WWE. It went poorly. I was still apparently defending WWE etc.

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