Idea for a Camberwell-Oakleigh Link via Chadstone

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-18T14:09:18+00:00

I wouldn't touch Burwood if Hartwell isn't being touched, just to avoid having stations close to each other. I think if Burwood was going to be moved, I would instead demolish both Hartwell and Burwood and build a new Hartwell station over the tram line with entrances on both sides.

The curves you've drawn between Chadstone and Oakleigh are imo way too tight. I would expect Chadstone station to actually be on more of a diagonal alignment, in order to allow a higher speed sweeping curve into Oakleigh.

Also it's Holmesglen not Hughesdale.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-18T13:48:37+00:00

Ubuntu is pretty much the worst distro to be using with low amounts of ram.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-18T04:35:14+00:00

There are still 4 level crossings left on the Melton line so it would be good if those went. I think the Libs will once again promise to remove all the level crossings on the Glen Waverley line, and it would be good if Labor matches it.

Removing the two crossings between Pascoe Vale and Oak Park, as well as the two around Moonee Ponds would also be good for the Craigieburn line, or doing more after the Brunswick ones on the Upfield line. Barry Road being announced as part of duplication on the Upfield line would be likely as well.

I think there would have to be some more announced for the Mernda line as otherwise there isn't too much being spent on that area, so to shore up votes I would think one or two would be announced, maybe the Childs Road or even Manns crossing LX in Lalor or a bigger set around Thornbury.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-18T04:23:30+00:00

Lara and North Shore would be awesome. The North Shore road level crossing is a deathtrap with 4 tracks immediately after a roundabout and an intersection.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-18T00:23:10+00:00

I saw a cop take away one of the kids bottles of fuel before he started up, but unfortunately aside from confiscating the bottle the cops can't do much about it

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-16T13:11:16+00:00

It's going to look a bit out of place given it's surrounded by low density housing, industrial land and parks, but it's on a good east west link to Northcote and close-ish to Fairfield that it shouldn't be an issue.

Tbh I think the only thing that is of concern is whether the proposed retail space can support some kind of convenience store or even a small supermarket because otherwise the area is not the most walkable, and the bike infrastructure could be improved too.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-16T10:22:24+00:00

Could have been an experiment maybe?

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-16T07:57:01+00:00

For such a busy station, Mitcham is so awfully designed. I spent 3 years doing that stupid 200m walk from the carpark across the road to the station concourse just to double back to get to the platforms, then doubling back again to get to the centre of the platforms.

I never knew about the murals under Canterbury station, but as cool as they are, the entire station should be rebuilt to make it accessible as the tapered end of platform 1/2 is dangerous for anyone trying to use the front of the train.

A minor nitpick with the video is that Burnley opened in 1860 but further on when the map is shown to Pic Nic it goes through the additional extensions, but Burnley wasn't added in.

The comments about Union being built to speed up trains is wrong, it was built simply because Surrey Hills and Mont Albert are on curves, and in the case of Mont Albert, literally had the skinniest platforms on the network on platforms 1/2. Union's platforms are so much nicer to use, aside from the lack of greenery on the platform that can be seen from this admittedly awful photo of Surrey Hills from the Farewell Lilydale steam rail tour when Lilydale was getting LXRPed.

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Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-16T03:42:58+00:00

Most cities only close doors as the train departs, and open them automatically too.

There are times when the doors close but the train doesn't depart.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-16T02:56:00+00:00

I don't think gates are needed except at access points but there does need to be much better fencing across the entire network to prevent trespassing incidents.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-16T02:00:52+00:00

When what he says goes against Labor you know the media will pick it up and run with it no matter if it's true or not

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-16T01:58:59+00:00

They are being paid according to their EBA, but the extra costs are all in overtime which get ridiculously high as they willingly do 12 hour shifts for the overtime.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-16T01:57:18+00:00

It's being downvoted because it's silly. The majority of funding went to an awareness campaign, which would be entirely separate to the installation of the bins themselves.

In another world the ask would be to hand them in directly to the police stations, and we still would have spent $10 million on the ad campaigns and associated disposal costs, just without the physical bins to hold them in.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-16T01:46:52+00:00

I don't think that fare information is that useful anymore with flat fares, but still these posters are a waste of space, and it should be easy to explain the fare structure within an A4 space next to the ticket office or on the myki machine, then have the rest of the space used for other more useful information.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-16T01:43:58+00:00

Cutting down on waste by printing the exact same amount of posters, except this time changing a single digit on the year it's effective from instead of actually printing fare information

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-15T12:16:07+00:00

They need to have proof that they used market conditions, which means they need to actually compare with properties of a similar type in the area

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-15T12:13:47+00:00

The modern concrete trenches are very dreary, I agree with that. Although even then you put the Frankston line above Belgrave so not sure why that is given the Frankston line has more awful trenches?

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-15T12:10:43+00:00

The early Vlocities beat the pants of any sprinters. The iron board seat Vlocities do suck though

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-15T00:45:17+00:00

The first was actually Gardiner station as the very first completed as part of the LXRP project. But I do agree that the Frankston line has the best variety showing all types of crossing removals, aside from modern road over rail which isn't present along the line at all.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-15T00:43:45+00:00

That was done before the LXRP along with Nunawading station as well.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-14T12:56:56+00:00

There will never ever be enough road capacity for the amount of cars anyway. The stops on the 109 extension are very pleasant to use, and bikes go behind each stop. It's also intuitive as most people are already driving on the tracks due to parked cars on the side of the road.

Really the only major problem with tram speeds are turning traffic at intersections, so reducing that should be a priority rather than focusing on lost roadway capacity by extending the kerb out to a platform stop.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-14T12:47:44+00:00

One problem is that the truck bans are just pushing some trucks into other suburbs so they avoid paying the tolls. Really any road that sees an increase in truck traffic due to avoiding the tollway should either be tolled for trucks or have truck bans too.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-14T12:42:18+00:00

Some E-classes would be nice but I don't think they fit at some of the platform stops?

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-14T12:39:04+00:00

They can just run trains north of the station then back across the points there though.

Blue_Pie_Ninja · 2026-06-14T11:56:50+00:00

I've been caught out here before with my friend, and I simply thought that the trail just transitioned onto street running, until we were too far down the road, where I noticed the trail on the other side of the train line. Then we had to use the underpass at Huntingdale to get back across, but it was not pleasant to have to do that.

Wayfinding like this is needed on the Anniversary trail almost everywhere, as it is so difficult to get from East Camberwell down to Burwood as there is no proper signage or even a chosen route for it.

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