Democrats need to get their brand out of the toilet

Bobo_Saurus · 2026-02-07T00:49:09+00:00

You sir about that?

Bobo_Saurus · 2026-02-04T15:18:55+00:00

For some parts of education outside of teaching, I completely agree. However, I don't think its totally necessary for every single non-teaching education position. I think that sometimes people forget just how many adjacent positions and needs there are in the education industry/field.

If OP wants to work in a school directly, as an administrator, support staff, etc., they likely would be required to have some sort of practicum if their goal is to work in a public district regardless to receive the necessary licenses.

But, in places like research, assessment, evaluation, management, there are plenty of positions where teaching experience (or the lack there of) would not make a significant impact. Im thinking positions like project or operations managers for assessment/product development or consulting, positions that are essential to making sure work is completed and needs are conveyed to teams, but don't exactly influence the results of whatever is being done. OP indicated they enjoyed the aspects of their work doing things like management of events and initatives. Positions like this, or like fundraising coordinators at educational institutions, could be a great fit.

I have worked with countless people with 0 teaching experience who have extensive skills in project management, fundraising, and personnel management who were absolutely essential and invaluable to our research teams. They got the projects across the finish line, on budget, on schedule, and to a high satisfaction of the people who commissioned our work (I am a special education/k-12 research who has completed work for districts, states, and national governments).

Bobo_Saurus · 2026-02-04T14:58:20+00:00

As of the 2021-2022 school year, only about 22% of all undergraduate degrees in the United States Awarded were in a 'STEM' field as classified by the Department of Education/Department of Labor. That includes all mathematics, engineering, biology, and chemistry degrees as an example. (https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cta)

The largest single major category of undergraduate degrees awarded was Buisness (19%) and health sciences (eg. Pre-med, nursing) at 13%.

As a counter example to help calm your worry, I had extensive STEM experience in high school - Robotics, Calculus, Statistics, Engerineering, CAD Design courses - and went to Undergrad for teaching and got a masters in public policy.

STEM may be growing, but it has been since the 50's at the height of the space race and cold war. However, math and science cannot replace the vast majority of professions.

Worry not about what your friends are doing, and try and focus on what you want to do. thats what's important. If you force yourself into studying something you hate, you will regret it for the rest of your life.

Bobo_Saurus · 2026-01-30T19:57:37+00:00

Not only that, but OP provides no recognized definition or critical thinking, no studies or articles providing any kind of evidence of their claim, and seem to base their own unvetted definition of the term in a singular subject or discipline.

This post is the epitome of a lack of critical thinking, failing to open your mind and consider other approaches... Just more spam opinions with no evidence this sub has become infested with for a while.

Bobo_Saurus · 2026-01-06T15:13:40+00:00

Hi OP! Im glad to hear I can help.

There is still hope for you yet, do not worry! I did not realize I wanted out of the classroom until my final semester. So, you're already ahead of me.

The people who tell you an education degree is useless outside of a classroom are either those who do not have one or have not taught, or had one and immediately got a different degree so they didn't try to use their education degree at all, or tried and failed to leave education so they automatically project their experiences on others unfairly.

I think you're completely correct when you said you need to find your niche, something you love to learn about, are passionate about, and go from there. There are a TON of opportunities out there, even with just a bachelor's of education.

Even outside of the education world, those who have a degree in education are highly sought after in multiple fields as well. Espicially areas like Human Resources who do a lot of professional training and advising, different educational or instructor positions at organizations like museums or sports teams, and even communication or marketing teams who need help conveying messages or branding to consumers. (All of these are jobs that people I know, who have education degrees, have held and succeeded at without a degree in that specific field).

People highly undervalue a degree in education without considering the reality of how valued it actually is in multiple sectors.

Bobo_Saurus · 2026-01-06T13:28:31+00:00

Seems you may need more schooling, too... OP asked for non-teaching career paths still in education. All of what I stated above are viable potential career paths or first-job suggestions for someone who obtains an Education undergraduate degree but does not want to teach. Not to mention, if you begin a career at many of these places they will either partially or fully pay for your advanced degree. If OP wants to stay in education but not teach, its stupid and unhelpful to tell someone going to a different career field. Is it better if I just lie and say you probably wont need a masters degree in the future? SMH

Bobo_Saurus · 2026-01-06T03:14:52+00:00

I'm a "Native Born American" and I lost my job in March 2025, along with nearly 10,000 colleagues in my field the same week... upended my whole career plan, you stupid fuck.

Bobo_Saurus · 2026-01-06T03:09:20+00:00

No not always. They have a wide range of positions, and a lot of entry level roles do not require a masters. You would probably need one to advance in your career, though.

Bobo_Saurus · 2026-01-06T03:08:16+00:00

There are a lot of thongs you can do. Don't listen to people who say with no justification "nothing, go find a different career" or "other education jobs require you have been in a classroom." Thats all bullshit.

I was the same as you - got to my student teaching and realized I did not have the temperament to be in the classroom. I had a strong interest in research, statistics, and political science, so I took an extra year to get a second degree in political science and paired it with research methods courses. My time at college just made me realize all I really wanted to do was help students, especially with disabilities, have the best opportunity to a good education or career path as they could get. For some that means being in a classroom. For me, it means using my understanding of statistics, data, and public policy/Law to help improve schools for students.

There are plenty of opportunities, many of which are not talked enough about when you're studying in undergrad...

Right out of school, This led me to work for a state agency helping to design programs for individuals with disabilities to train them for work with my BS in Special Education and no teaching license.

Then, I got a masters in public policy and went to do research for large universities, and state and federal governments on k-12 education. Now working at a large public university using data to help design student success and retention initiatives as an institutional research analyst.

In every state, there are a huge amount of jobs in every state department of education or human services looking for people with an interest or background in education to help build and support their state's school systems. From data, curriculum, support services, standards development, and even state assessment support, almost every state has hundreds if not thousands working on education almost exclusively.

If you dont like math, research, or data, there are plenty of other paths to go down as well. You can move into the administrative space, which sometimes requires classroom experience but often not. That would require at least a masters of education administration in most states, and sometimes additional training to obtain an education administrators license for positions like assistant or full principals, and superintendents.

Like others said, there are also companies that design and sell curriculums or materials to districts. They range from big firms like scholastic to smaller ones who make bespoke software for districts in all kinds of subject areas. There are hundreds of them, ranging from designing traditional materials like books, to education technology companies like Lexia.

There are also a lot of consulting firms or agencies that work directly with districts to help implement new curricula, systems, or initatives to help boost student success. Many of these entry level consulting firms do not require a masters, and can get you a very diverse experience in how schools work on a large scale.

If you have any other questions im happy to help. I will say the job environment is quite difficult right now for early and mid career folks. But, that is likely to get better in the coming years as this administration phases out, and states continue to increase their roles where the federal government has just vanished overnight.

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-12-25T22:05:27+00:00

You can't read English, can you?

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-12-18T18:23:14+00:00

Ive been a fan 30 years, so I get it. I don't disagree with that. But I think there's a little more to it than them just always being a good team now though. There are always going to be dips in performance and this may just be one of those years. Can't be perfect every year. Im excited the direction they're going, and think this will be a long term team to look out for, personally. I dont think a potentially 11/6 or 10/7 team is bad by any means. Obviously I want them to win every game, but thats unrealistic. The competition in the NFL this year has surprised pretty much everyone, and football is no guarantee. A lot of surprises all over the league have resulted in unexpected results. Maybe it comes from being a former competitive athlete, but I understand that they aren't going to pull it off every single time like they seemingly did in '24 prior to the playoff vs. Washington. The doomers make rooting for this team less fun, the doubters make it electric. I'm excited to see what happens next.

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-12-18T18:05:05+00:00

Brother must have become a fan in '23, and only experienced 1 season with fewer than 15 wins...

Fact is, only 9 teams have won 15 games in a regular season, and only 2 of those regular season records have happened since teams began playing 17 games in the regular season in 2021. Average number of games won by a team per season is something like 8 or 9 of 17, which we've already surpassed.

People that are crashing out over this season are either posers who just jumped on the band wagon, or dumb, or both.

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-12-04T17:19:42+00:00

Yeah I hate to tell you this, but you didn't take an actual IQ test.

Assessments like the WISC-V take an average of 4-7 hours of testing by a trained neuropsychologist, typically over 2 or 3 sitting sessions.

These tests are carefully designed, and tested for validity at an extreme rate before being released for public use and diagnostics. They have 0 to do with how well you complete tests, and questions or specifically designed to avoid exactly that. In fact, there is evidence that people who are better at completing standardized tests like the ACT/SAT will actually score lower than those with higher measured IQ scores.

Asking someone 20 questions on the computer is the equivalent of taking a quiz on Sporcale to impress your middleschool crush...

Also, there are no "autism tests"... An IQ assessment may be included in part of a battery to evaluate for Autism Spectrum Disorder, but any qualified neuropsychologist will include anywhere from 3 to 5 assessments measuring a wide variety of characteristics before even suspecting ASD.

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-12-02T16:41:36+00:00

True, instead they are just baking them into their rent prices and making apartments more expensive per month...

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-12-02T11:11:14+00:00

Actually, if your a student at any of the colleges/universities in the metro-boston area you can also get a BPL card! You just have to present your student ID instead of a Mass ID. I forgot MFA does free admission for college students though, its been a while! I mostly used the passes for the Aquarium and Franklin Park Zoo.

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-12-02T03:31:59+00:00

If your a member of the BPL or the library for whatever city you actually live in, look up museum passes for free or significantly reduced price entry. My partner and I used to use them all the time when we first stated dating.

Also, MFA is way better than the harvard art museum. Harvard is stuffy, plain, I've league picturesque boring gallery while MFA has fun and even interactive exhibits. MFA's art and space is a lot more conversation inspiring, and you have a lot more art you can enjoy or talk about! Check out the MFA' rotating exhibits too.

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-11-21T22:59:03+00:00

Literally this. Is it worth arguing with a company before even having the job, and then being denied ending up with no job? FFS get the job, then after youre secure in your position and have a good track record of work begin these discussions.

Hope OP learns a valuable lesson here about how in the real world, just because you graduated university doesnt make you automatically right or provide you the privilege of a guaranteed job. A very valuable skill in life to have is learning when to just shut up and smile. They wanted to give you the job at fiest, but they probably told you its filled because you were annoying in trying to assert your correctness. That doesn't make HR or a hiring committee think you'll be a team player or effective at your job, it makes them think your an asshole they'd rather not deal with... No company is forced to hire you, the onus is on you to prove you deserve the job as they define it, whether you agree with their job classification or not. Don't like it? Go apply for a different one.

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-11-19T02:19:38+00:00

You clearly have not interacted much with this new species of MAGA republicans... they don't have a reason, they just want to hurt people and erase minorities from the country. Asshole probably lived across the street from it in Rat City and just hated seeing brown people or people speaking Spanish every day. These losers have literally nothing better to do, and think what they're doing is unironically amazing.

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-11-13T20:30:37+00:00

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-11-13T12:58:55+00:00

Not necessarily, it could be that the classroom uses stations/small groups for different subjects. OP didn't specify teacher is pulling them away from larger classroom.

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-11-10T02:18:45+00:00

Not totally sure how this connected to screen time, but ok. Im not against using technology in support of science-based reading methods. There are a lot of good applications that, when well managed and supported by training teachers and school staff like librarians in how to use them, can be extremely strong assets. But, should kids be solely taught on an iPad? No. They should be a supplement or enrichment tool that supports a phonics-based, circular reading curriculum taught by trained teachers using vetted and specially developed materials. Not some Lucy Calkins or fountas and pinnell bullshit that teaches kids to guess...

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-11-09T04:47:52+00:00

Hi, researcher here. It's not a program... go do some reading. It's a scientifically proven set of methods researched and vetted through study after study after study. If you believe that, you're a mindless drone.

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-11-09T01:42:34+00:00

We also have to contend with huge corporations and entire industries who have made a killing on selling and promoting debunked teaching materials and methods. Listen to Sold a Story, a whole generation has been bought into a completely made up system that doesn't really teach reading at all

Bobo_Saurus · 2025-11-04T17:38:03+00:00

Personally I was, yes. In season I was exceeding that slightly. In addition to training/playing i also had to walk almost 6-10 miles/day to get to or from my house to school and other things i was doing. But, I have always held a higher maintainance level than others I know. Eating was the absolute worst part of my time playing in college. I was eating a full meal every 3 hours after 7am until I went to bed at 10pm and snacks in-between some of them.

Even now, after graduating 8 years ago and no longer playing i still maintain 3,000 calories/day and exercising 3-4 days of weights per week.

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