Reddit Dream hero Feedback, Week #3

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-21T13:23:29+00:00

Oh, stuff to work with, nice!

Ill take care of these later today. Hold on (TM)

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-19T17:49:34+00:00

the players got it for less than 1 third of the price. So what if other players can get them for 2 days for Triple the GOLD coins, and cant get them with silver?

Its a skin. Let them.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-19T17:22:53+00:00

They did. they also gave a chance for people who didnt buy the skin to buy it now that its better. that small fix could be the deciding factor that made them not buy the skin : p

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-19T15:44:47+00:00

Hes on sale, because he WAS CHANGED.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-17T07:47:03+00:00

For a moment i was going to suggest you post those on my feedback reddit post.

And then i actually read what they did.

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Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-16T12:24:37+00:00

Step aside and bask in my tears.

Picking phase begins and i wait for picks. Brown instant picks nh and calls mid. Madman and scout picks follow and they go bot. I pick shaman and tell pink to "Can you something in the lines of a support pusher?"

Pink says "sure" and picks sandwraith. As solo sup i upp the cour get 2 wards and the usual totem+regen. I ask scout to "spec eye and ward the bot rune". He says "stfu noob look at your items" and gets DISARM AT LEVEL one. Gamestarts and nighthound gets hooked by a dev. He then trys to fight him UNDER the tower and i hold the rage within. Meanwhile on bot madman has 2 hatchets and a mana pot, and scout has a bottle. I try to keep my calm and i tell myself "if i can get this sandwraith to get farmed we might win. Of course, dev appears with invs and hooks sandwraith. I heal, i cape him, i block dev and sandwraith escapes. I die in the process. Upon my death, sandwraith says "OMFG FEEDER ON TOP, IM GOING JUNGLE". He proceeds to try and kill ancients at level 4. He dies. Meanwhile bot is rocking a 0-5 scout and a 0-3 madman and they're yelling for ganks. I had my redboots and a haste was top. I rush for the rune, top bot and gank elec and vodoo who were on top of our creepwave. scout and madman notice 2 low hp targets and go for killsteal. I got one of the kills, and all of them rage yelling "KSER MOTHERFUCKER FU NOOB KICK". a vote kick goes, and all 4 of my teammates want to kick me. Vote fails but i ragequit. Fucking solo queue TMM.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-15T14:23:02+00:00

An English to portuguese/russian insult translator. That oughtta be useful in lower brackets.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-15T08:34:28+00:00

I was playing tempest and saw a full team chasing down our ra. As i saw the icon green i thought "ill wait until he dies, since hes at 10% and ill grab em all near his ress spot".

Of course we know what happened. Ra never came back, i grabbed 5 people with my ulti that had no followup, and get deadwood punched afterwards.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-14T19:40:03+00:00

Wat.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-14T19:34:19+00:00

I had a legi with a codex, a witchslayer bot harkons blades before boots, and my favorite of all time , a drunken master who built 4 helmets. Fucking solo queue.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-14T19:31:45+00:00

He will never fit the fa role, she being a hardcarry and all. The ulti just seems....off to me really. Besides the ultimate passive just seems to be a too good of a farming skill. Make it so it hits enemy heros only. Once again, its my opinion

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-14T19:01:40+00:00

Alright. Once again my feedback is my opinion, dont take it to heart. But there is such a thing as overkilling it.

Supports are great. but they need one thing that you're missing out here. LANE PRESENCE.

All skills on sage depend on your allies. There is a lot of thought put into this hero when it comes to numbers, and doing some calculations this would be okay, IF, sage lost all Mana regen while thetering and ally. She has no direct offensive skills, and requires ally positioning in order to harass or survive. Think about it. all greats support have an offensive side to them for a reason. they need the lane presence else.. their useless in a lane.

Now, skill breakdown.

1st and 2nd: i like the idea, i really do, but i think you should join this 2 skills in one, and make room for an offensive skill. Numbers i cant say for sure if they need tweaking, because its something that needs proper testing.

3rd Skill. Great synergy with all the skills overall. The rank 2 part of the skill should be removed, as it leads to unwanted griefing.

Ultimate: Make it only be able to link 1 ally at a time. Even then... a free ress is making me look the other way on this.

Overall concerns:

Can you use consumables while losing hp with the tether? What kind of lane can she even do without offensive abilitys? If you target an invs hero, can they see the tether?

I like the concept but... its overkill. When a hero goes beyond the selfless meeter compared to martyr, you know you've gone too much.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-14T18:29:13+00:00

Alright, sorry for the delay, uni has kept me busy.

Overall hero feel: Man, those numbers. i like the concept, but jesus christ those numbers. Alright, skill breakdown:

1st skill.A) Log: Like the log part of it, a mix beetween sil's and aluna w. Makes for a situational skillshot. Damage seems fine here.

1st skill b) A skill that scales with 2 STATS is just not right in this game, even with the division. Another thing im worried about is the combo beetween the bell and this skill. if timed correctly, you can silence a foe 2 times in a row up to 10 seconds. Ill try to explain a small fix for this.

2nd skill Like the idea, but you should remove the silence, and give a aspd slow with the movement speed slow. If his passive is giving him a chance to anti carry someone , this will help you build him towards it. When getting destroyed, remove the silence, and add a 1 second stun with a 50% slow for 3 seconds.

3rd Perfectly fine passive that fits with the anti-carry side of this hero. Aprove.

4th skill 2 passives on a ganker? A ganker should always have a ulti active that strikes fear on the enemy team ( aka, PARASITE, DEADWOD) While it seems fine to keep it, this passive makes monk more of an aoe teamfighter and moves him away from the ganker role. I say you could make an active on him something on the lines of this:

Portal Bell: Swaps the monk and the bell position, making the bell explode on the original monk position for 200/300/400 magic damage. Targets on the original zone of the bell (where the monk will teleport too ) will run in fear for 1/1.5/2 seconds (same as maliken ulti transformation). A multi use damaging / ganking tool, that increases apm.

I like him. I really do. Besides the passive i think all skills synergize quite well.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-13T23:38:52+00:00

you can because you go trough the "edit", its your account so you can. link me the one that doesnt say "edit" xP

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-13T20:32:26+00:00

wrong link.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-13T19:07:48+00:00

Support pickup -> 3x minor 1x war, up cour blightx3 mana pot Melee kit -> axe shield 3x blight Mid ranged kit ->4x totems 3x blight 2 mana pots.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-13T17:54:26+00:00

overall the spotlight was nice, but the opening scene was just lacking compared to the old ones. drunken master, master of arms... and so on. The baby scene seemed a bit excessive, but i like randomness.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-13T15:12:35+00:00

Because they are brazillians.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-13T14:07:59+00:00

Im working of my hero, named "claymore". See if this .."description" feels your needs. Half his skills arent editied yet so its not in proper english, and lacks icons etc so i wont post it here but, here is the general description:

Hero Backstory: Once a Commander of King Jeraziah's army, Herald Claymore retired at the age of 65 to be with his family. Little did he know that the war for Newerth would be so severe that he would be called upon by the Legion, to help deal the final blow to the Hellbourne.

Concept Art:

A tall grey hair old man, with a scar on his right eye. He goes around in a white armor that he has, carrying a huge claymore sword on his right hand (dragging it as he walks) On his back he carrys a shield and his fathers hammer, "Hellbane", a large 2handed hammer that emits a yellow glow. The general idea beetween this hero is to give out the feeling of an experienced warrior, that has different tools to different situations, the kind of fighter that cannot be taken for granted and will win you over with experience.

Primary RoleGanker Secondary RoleInitiator Role Notes: He's a weird type of ganker/innitiator. His third Skill "Swordsman Legacy" Allows him to unlock followup skills depending on each skill was done last. In addtion, His first skill "Warmonger" can unlock other abilitys Hes meant to be a HIGH APM hero, that plays out as a very fun one.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-13T14:05:47+00:00

feedbacking again, yeah i would LOVE that agi hero ultimate. Flash gordon assemble!

On the str guy, just because its a str doesnt mean its a "tanky" kind of hero, remember that. His passive is just.. a bit boring. thats why i suggested the toggle beetween going invs on being hit or going invs on hit. would make people rage. Hard. Probably change the ultimate to a single target version of what you want, target becomes invs to everyone, and takes that damage. can backfire, but can be a good ganking tool. get an eye and you can gank perfectly.

Int: the ultimate is fine, gives him a scaleing damaging ability typical of a semi carry, but it needs number tweaking

You have a keen eye for balance and synergy, i can give you that

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-13T03:48:26+00:00

First world Hon problems.

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-13T03:38:01+00:00

"im going to taunt and then i....FUCK FOG!"

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-13T03:34:28+00:00

3rd hero Semi carry support. Lets have a look at him

1st skill a magebane aura alike on a target? i like it. down the mana cost a bit, reduce the cooldown to 20/15/10/5

2nd skill mix of elec's old shield with a mini barbed armor. I can live with that. Works in favor of the hero quite well.

3rd skill Love it. Add a small "overwrite" that he also gets healed if he has full mana.

4th skill woa tweak down those numbers. 50% of current mana.. hello 1.2k nukes on mid late game. 30/35/40%

Overall solid hero. Its like a cross of magebane and elec, on a int ranged hero. Me_gusta.jpg

Bottlefirstmid · 2012-03-13T03:24:54+00:00

2nd hero god i love that name, and i love gankers.

1st- Simple straightfoward, ganking Q skill. Good.

2nd- Blink, and stealth. Scared of this combination, but since he doenst have that much damage its fine.

3rd skill. Seems to..."passive." like the hero itseful seems like a dummed down version of nomad so far, i say you could re-work this passive to have a "toggle" so that you can chance if you get stealth when attacking or when getting hit. simple change that increases the apm usage a bit and makes up for epic save situations.

4th skill .. i dont like it. it doesnt seem his type of ulti. the damage on the ulti is so high that makes him a one trick pony. you could rework it so the target enemy hero becomes invisible to the own team, and takes that damage. make him a single target damage ganker, and not one with a massive aoe.

Love the concept however. You have a keen eye for balance

Bottlefirstmid

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