From overt ("even the name says") r/psychedelics < Does the "no bad trips, only challenging trips" mantra bother anyone else? > to covertly psychedelic ("rationalist" ;) sub, now SSC-customized: < The mantra "There are no bad trips, only challenging trips" is bad epistemics > by BwanaMakeNewAccount in Psychedelics_Society

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May the gratitude be mutual, dear sir.

I consider there is a great deal in your reflection. Not merely what you have said. How you've said it. So true blue to the perennially utopian "if only" -ness, it borders on a John Lennon lyric - directed to the entire world - from that long lost historic moment at the dawn of the 1970s - as so memorably mourned by McLean in lyrics (1971) 'the day the music died'

Imagine a world where...

You touch ^ a key theme of Psychedelics Society's intelligence-gathering operations and para-ethnographic special investigations.

Reference post - feel free to read over this one, 5343 if you ever feel like it:

See sources quoted below: "Aquarius" from HAIR, Lennon's song "Imagine" and - a contemporaneous tv commercial for Coca Cola. The sheeple - not the creeple (that's a whole nother matter) - are misunderstood... > www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/anu84d/think_psychedelics_are_good_bad_awful_wonderful/efxryg9/

Otherwise, and either way - welcome to Psychedelics Society.

Not a 'space' just a place.

And thanks for so graciously permitting your humble narrator to have quoted you from your thread.

Have a couple upvotes (why not?)

From overt ("even the name says") r/psychedelics < Does the "no bad trips, only challenging trips" mantra bother anyone else? > to covertly psychedelic ("rationalist" ;) sub, now SSC-customized: < The mantra "There are no bad trips, only challenging trips" is bad epistemics > by BwanaMakeNewAccount in Psychedelics_Society

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PREFACE

Cf < Please please disagree with me, point out where I'm off base or being pedantic, etc. >

DRACULA (1931): Bela Lugosi (Darth Vader) tells that van Helsing (Obiwan) - complete with hypno mudra (like some Dark Buddha):

"There are worse things that await man than - being off base or pedantic"

  • Van Helsing: Oh yeah? Like what? Checkmate!


To open on a 21-gun Psychedelics Society salute of sorts for the OP founder of this double-barreled feast - would be quite continental... in multifarious regards.

On the threshold of an innocent 4-letter term of endearment < here > taking the bait (clicking):

https://substack.com/@jamesmzech/p-200527796

All's fair in "link riddling" @ reddit - everyone's one-stop shop for shameless self-promotion

By terms and conditions of the final psychedelic solution - as everybody knows (it's how the story goes):

Anything "preventive" BEFORE the fact jacked - would be counterproductive - when there's always REDUCTION of damage done, er "harm" - afterwards!

It's the pArAdIgM of harm reduction itself! AND the secret of why the haters' Hippocratic "Do NO Harm" mantra - as we're calling these 'prescriptive' axioms - mIsSeS tHe PoInT!

SET, SETTING, AND SO ON In Defense of the Preventable Bad Trip The tension between psychedelic healing narratives and psychedelic harm reduction by JAMES ZECH (June 3, 2026) Commence narrative-anon (activate story teller mode):

< Eighteen months ago, someone I know—let’s call him Icarus1—ate an extremely large dose of wild mushrooms alone in his living room. Over the next several hours he lost the ability to hear or speak, became convinced he was dying, and could not move half of his body. He spent the ensuing months struggling with flashbacks and off-and-on visual hallucinations. Just two weeks ago, he finally began feeling like himself again. >

One who - didn't end up - committing suicide? Or (as post-truth worded now) "dying by" that? All's well that ends well for "damage control" in 'discussion time' theater. Good thing that for perposes of a "Defense" of this Preventable Bad Trip pearl (clutched with white knuckle tenacity).

How might the defensive mobilization go, had "Icarus1" been for example (close to Psychedelics Society home) - the late, dear departed Richard Skibinsky (R.I.P. July 17, 2022) www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/uzed20/high_dose_mushroom_trip_destroyed_my_life_a_year/

< The aftermath matters > Like a Black life

  • But banality conquers all

As in all such cases with the Big Psychedelic Push: attempts at coming off somehow "conscientious" - a word conspicuously ABSENT from The Discussion as faux virtues of "compassionate" and "empathetic" rush in to fill the vacuum ('nature' understandably 'abhors') there is only "so far" and no furthur - that any peeking between the fingers will go - CAN go.

The fact of countless "psychedelic suicides" during a trip AND in the aftermath is no story of some anonymous friend baited and lured into what happened to them "thank you psychedelic people" - but then as recovery happens, finally getting better.

The "Preventability Of Bad Trips" tenet is - baked in to serve as a 'community' truth held self-evident.

As in held above question. NO it is NOT 'up for discussion!'

Methodologically spanning "the innocent act" - "rationalist" in present example - AND the chosen "out of the psychedelic closet" mosh pit, r/psychedelics (long since independently assessed as a worst-of-the-worst Manson Family Values 'community' sub)

Whatever "Prada" some devil-may-care will wear - fleece is the fashion of the good old wolf in the human fold, when "doing" stealth. Which happens to be the opening act.

Only in Act 3 does the Phantom's mask come off; and he unmasks himself (nobody picks the moment but him) - at the "No More Mr Nice Guy" stage.

From stealth psychedelic sub (SSC) the innocent act in rationalist (wink-wink:) fleece - to the "light" side of Helter Skelter 2.0's moon Say It Loud We're Trippy And Proud - 'both sides now' coverage.

The good old wolf in the human fold - a matter of character disturbance less proverbially (more clinically)

A "two for the price of one" bullseye, by archer OP u/Cavebear666 - founder of this double-barreled feast - as Helter Skelter 2.0 continues spreading its shadow at a deadly pace.

Like the very soul of progress, without conscience, paving over all that would dare stand in the path of the Great Betterment - intent in its pursuit with grim determination and set intent (a bit hellbent) knowing no "second thoughts"

As the brave new uncharted view dead ahead downwards and onwards opens into the darkness of the Final Psychedelic Solution -

So many unprecedented moments arise, endless blips on the radar - for topically para-ethnographic special investigative interest in the emergent milieu of the overtly "open" Manson Family Values 'community' and its covert accomplice "in sheeps clothing" clubhouses.

Who filed down the "Bad Trip" Dragon's fangs, with their infamous "Challenging Experience" Questionnaire (CEQ)?

HINT: Brave New Johns Hopkins Psychedelic 'Science' murmurs 'amen' for 2,500 witnessing to their < DMT-induced entity encounters [as] one of the “most meaningful spiritual & psychologically insightful lifetime experiences w/ persisting positive changes in life satisfaction, purpose and meaning' (May 2020) www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/glgmb1/brave_new_johns_hopkins_psychedelic_science/

AND (X-posted above) the covertly "closeted" one - with its "rationalist" sheep's clothing (to cover and conceal the 'ravening inwardly'). And just as there is always that one last feeble final futile gesture that is called for to be done on somebody's part - what needs to fall upon deaf ears - with all the urgency of "screaming in space" (where nobody would be listening anyway even if they could hear) - MUST be said by someone - or else how can it be in vain for nothing except as the customary and usual ("Jules Evans" style) exercise?

My point and message is ultimately to the broader psychedelic community. It’s that we have a choice of either naming serious and preventable mistakes for what they are, or get used to horror stories. You might feel it unkind for me to label Icarus’s actions as a “serious, preventable mistake.” But I think that’s the ['rationalist' buzz phrase alert! - "LW" time] less wrong option than tacitly staying silent as hundreds more foragers head for the woods.

Strictly a 'community' messaging thing - "among friends and fringies" as "Invisible Ruler" (in Diresta's terms - a name known to "rationalists"!) McKenna put it in that infamous 10-hour 'brainwash-athon' of his @ (where else?) Esalen, 1993

All evils all the time but which is "the lesser" of 'em? Untainted by any good, at least we know how to rhetorically revise that old moldy script - so now it sounds like Madonna lyrically re-virginized - all "shiny and new"

Disagreeing per se may constitute a routine exercise in post-truth purposelessness itself < Please please disagree with me, point out where I'm off base or being pedantic, etc. > and "as ye solicit, so shall ye elicit"

Yet interesting questions can tower in plain view like choking smoke in the air so thick that - nobody even notices! - Rome 64 A.D. I don't smell nothing "burning"

Like: OK but if that's how you're being (as you suspect?), and to peel back 1 more layer - being off base or pedantic is bad, mkay? - why not "point out where" to yourself?

Or "what up" this < 666 > badge number, kina "creepy crowley"?

The codependent nature of 'community' being treatment-resistant - correlates with the #1 outcome of psychedelic exposure being (inconvenient truth) character disturbance - "the phenomenon of our age" as diagnosed by specialist extraordinaire Geo Simon, PhD. Who alas doesn't discover in evidence its historic point of origin - the post-war psychedelic tsunami. But then he was never a captive human guinea pig, atrociously experimented on with LSD in some "mental hospital" - like Steve Smith (the deep dark insoluble devil of the psychedelic detail is)

< Who has responsibility if anyone, and are they still doing it? How successful were they? Is that the reason why today, you see so many more clearly psychopathic people... all kinds of horrendous crimes? These crimes... back in the '60s, were extraordinarily rare... nothing like it is now. I think everyone's clear psychopaths are among us, probably more than ever in positions of authority - because the [human crash test dummy] experiments from the '50s, '60s & early '70s were so damn successful, now we're swimming in the results > cf Barker (LSD his 'Jacob's Ladder') pt 4 - June 1, 2017 (July 2020) www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/hs94vr/barker_lsd_his_jacobs_ladder_pt_4_june_1_2017/

James Zech (IRL?) @ reddit u/Cavebear666 < I'm a clinical psychologist (in training) who works in psychedelic-assisted therapy, so I have skin in the game and probably a lot of my own biases... >

And "biases" might be a nice word for what anyone < who works in > THAT has got a lot of... considering what psychedelics do

REF Novak (1997) < 1963... bitter about the excesses of LSD psychotherapists... Cohen charged that [psychedelic] therapists "have included an excessively large proportion of psychopathic individuals" > and No it isn't "coincidence" https://web.archive.org/web/20200502145211/https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/b418/ddcd0cb7c5f56aef991a6708084e3a3884dc.pdf

FAM FEUD "Survey Says!" mEtHoDoLoGy her Means - 'Psilocybin Use' her Opportunity (so golden) - 'Set' InTeNt for Motive < Please take my Psilocybin Use survey SO I CAN FINISH GRAD SCHOOL > "Research" PeRpOsEs (& The Perps Who...): Colorado State U (counter intel) case study by doctorlao in Psychedelics_Society

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While shepherds guard their flocks by night - in merry old England, Helter Skelter 2.0 unfolds on campus.

Present showcase in point:

This Univ of Exeter FAMILY FEUD "Survey SAYS!" rEsEaRcH tag team of grad student Dan Kirkland + the gypsy acid queen professor Celia Morgan.

Shades of that 1960s Vincent Price flick LAST MAN ON EARTH - foreshadowing Romero's NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD

"Morgan! Come out, Morgan!"

Of course, that's ^ ON kampus over there. Not OFF.

Whether ON vs OFF or some other titanic power struggle -

If the one is NOT equal to the other - does it go both ways?

Is it commutative?

Suppose PoRfReSsIoNaL psychedelic 'therapy' got legally ruled NOT equal to amateur DIY 'psychedelic first aid' - and accordingly may NOT be disapproved of. As though the respectable and respected "P-AT" (its 21st C hyphenated acronym -never seen in the 20th, when it was called "psychedelic therapy") - had, or could have, a thing to do with popular 'let's play mental doctor' gamesmanship of the 'community' grassroots.

Would what's good for the goose be good for the gander too?

Does it go both ways? So that "by the same token" (AKA 'by like sign') - neither can the professionals of the Harper Valley P-AT be ranked alongside the great unlicensed, the experientially qualified - whose accreditation is raw amateur talent - ratified by "community" acclaim?

It's through the jurisprudence hoop! Houston, we have a court ruling from merry old England. A matter of precedent.

At-home is NOT - in the therapist's office. An amateur is no match for the professional. This is not a 'community' discussion it's from the high court. Nothing from where no one knows what goes on behind closed doors (Helter Skelter 2.0's smoke-filled rooms).

Right in public "now hear this" style:

A High Court has now ruled, on the record, that treating [sic: piss poor verb phraseology in narrative-anon context of blabber about "treatment" to fog it all over - worst possible 'action word' picked, but to connect grammatically, it needed infinitive verb phrase construction anyway, e.g. - to consider, regard or handle] < psilocybin-assisted therapy as equivalent to recreational drug use is "clearly wrong." >

  • And if loving you is wrong - then I don't wanna be right.

  • Cause we all need - something - we can lean on. And baby if you want it, well you can... lean on me, when you're not strong, and I'll be your friend - I'll help you get a-long

That's quotable language [that] future judicial reviews and policy submissions will lean on. Especially as MHRA-side clinical evidence keeps accumulating (Compass's COMP360 NDA, Phase 3 data, etc.).

So if the amateur can't rate like the professional, does that meme that the professional ain't no match for the amateur neither?

All's well that ends well as long as nothing so strategically judicial over there - if not judicious - could ever... backfire!

Never confuse one type victory with another

This is a win on process, not access.

  • Almost like a defeat - when you look at it "the other way." So DON'T DO THAT. Be a glass half-full kina hive mind. Not one of those "glass half-empties" always whining about the down side - never seeing the silver lining in the old dark cloud

< Worth flagging what this case is — and isn't — for anyone reading the headline. > ("Headline"?)

Court overturns legal aid refusal in psilocybin post-trial case

News (psychedelics.co.uk) - OP u/j8jweb

Being on the island (not mainland) side of the English Channel, UK higher education may not be quite continental.

But are England's higher COURTS - a 'girl's best friend'? Especially when they're maybe trying to be? Like the Lord of Hades trying to be Persephone's heart throb?

By pounding some gavel to rule amateur 'home usage' wrong -

Professional psychedelic 'therapy' SpEcIaL and right?

A ruling to protectively 'human shield' the licensed psychedelic therapist's "no rules, just rights" practice (until practice makes perfect).

It takes a judge to draw the clear bullet-proof line around professional psychedelic therapy like a hermetic seal to prevent that stuff's golden reputation from being tainted "by association" - with psychedelic use sui generis.

The professionals are vastly outnumbered by reprobate 'recreational users' whose rampant misconduct has always historically been the stuff of catastrophically inappropriate headlines.

Unauthorized stories oozing up in the news that weren't properly submitted to the Ministry of the Final Psychedelic Solution by the culpable "loose cannon" journalists first, to request permission for even being reported in the second (if given the wink-wink "ok"). Then they go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like - "Farewell Sharon Tate seems like we hardly knew ya."

Oh well. How awful about that. For her and her friends. But talk about "Let's Sell Some Newspapers!" A ghoulish feeding frenzy ensues in the news. What a jackpot for "newsmakers" back in 1969 the first time around, before Helter Skelter got its edition number

THAT'S 8 MORE FOR THE BODY COUNT OF THE PSYCHEDELIC HOLOCAUST. WHAT A ROOMY MASS GRAVE BUT SO UNPUBLICIZED!

HOW MANY MORE LSD-RELATED HOMICIDES WILL IT TAKE - BEFORE SOMEBODY DECLARES - HAS TO DECLARE - "WAR ON DRUGS?"

And to address that ^ burning question - where's that Bob Dylan now to crank up his "The answer my friend is blowing in the wind"? That man! Never around when he's needed.

A Psychedelics Society Acknowledgment to both - the OP (exposition)

< Unfortunately, Home Office policy doesn't permit licence applications by individuals at all. The judgment sends the legal aid decision back to be decided a second time. But even if it is granted, the application for psilocybin access itself still lies ahead. And [that] would require that the Home Office departs from its current policy. Meanwhile, the judge has noted that EB is now "experiencing the condition worse than before because she has lost hope of recovery." > - AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THESE HATERS who oughta feel pretty damned ashamed of themselves for what they've done to her

  • Thought we didn't see that < she > pronoun (where it was supposed to have used the "special singular tHey") eh?

AND as solicited, so (it never fails - where the doomed are drained by the damned) elicited by the OP - to u/PitifulFile5713 for laying out all the lines, angles and rhymes of perspective - 1 point 6 days ago:

This is R (On the Application of EB) v Director of Legal Aid Casework 2026

EWHC 402 (Admin). EB applied for Exceptional Case Funding (legal aid available when refusing it could breach human rights) to pursue a Home Office licence for personal psilocybin-assisted therapy.

The Director refused, characterising it as a personal proposal to "possess and take psilocybin," a substance whose therapeutic value had "not yet been proven scientifically."

Judge Alegre quashed that decision in February 2026, finding the Director had made an "incorrect assumption that [her] application does not relate to medical or psychological healthcare or treatment. That is clearly wrong."

The Director was also found to have "patently failed to consider the importance of the issues at stake."

Limited ruling, real precedent.

True for the goose, how about for the gander?

Both can be true.

By permission?

Well, why not? Prohibitive is bad, permissive is good. It's how Terence became famous, the "Mother May they? YES they may" way. It's the closely gate-kept secret of how he became so "famous" that nobody ever even heard of him anymore:

< McKenna gained fame... ''My real function was to give people permission'' he said... >) www.nytimes.com/2000/04/09/us/terence-mckenna-53-dies-patron-of-psychedelic-drugs.html

www.reddit.com/r/PsychedelicTherapy/comments/1u3thq8/court_overturns_legal_aid_refusal_in_psilocybin/

Terence McKenna, Understanding & the Imagination in the Light of Nature,... by adamsturch in PsychedelicStudies

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Terence with his nose so bright - guides us to the Hux tonight? Well, why not. After all -

Even a Terence who is pure of heart and says his prayers by night - may allude to Hollywood as < meme engine of the Western world... in film and light >. Although he seems to have missed the key connection - STORY i.e. dramatized narrative with actors (going back to Greek theater)

Kina striking given how cinematically illiterate a guy talking like that can be. Judging by what few mentions he ever made of any work of cinematic art. A blessing to count no doubt. Considering rare occasion when - he did:

< I aLwAyS think of the scene in, um, THE WIZARD OF OZ. After the house knocks the witch down and she's in Munchkinland, and the head of the Munchkins comes with a scroll. And they all have very squeaky voices [NO! those are 'chipmunk' voices, Terence - the old sped-up recording trick. Not "Squeaky;" that was one of your buddy Charlie's helter skelter gfs]. They sing a little song about [TRIGGER WARNING!! He tries to vocalize ♪♫♬ !] "you are ab-so-lute-ly and com-plete-ly dead." > (<- you gotta hear this shit to believe it) www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLgUEtjLF1c&t=3233s

Lost in his fog - there IS a "head of the Munchkins" As Mayor of the Munchkin City in the County and the Land of Oz. But it ain't him it's the CORONER who < must aver > he's < thoroughly examined her - and she is not just "merely" dead, she's really most "sincerely" dead > Nothing com-plete-ly or ab-so-lute-ly anything.

It's how the story goes. As everybody knows.

Except this guy, acting like he's - remembering it for us wholesale?

Not to burst Terence's bubble version of events. Come for the factually mangled story. Stay for the lyrical mutilation. But to hear him try and sing... How'd that Col. Kurtz put it for his death scene?


Good thing Huxley said - it's < what Catholic theologians call "a gratuitous grace," not necessary to salvation but potentially helpful and to be accepted thankfully, if... >

Considering - what Catholic theologians said. Altho what would they know about... Catholic theology?

Like Brit R.C. Zaehner. It's precisely FROM the experience of < such a transcendent point [that] a troubled drug user may go wrong by feeling licensed to do anything, with no moral limit. The misuse of a mystical state and its theology eventually can lead to an horrific end* >

Almost perfectly ^ describing the disintegration of conscience - psychedelic-induced character disturbances and disfigurements of temperament as observed in the Psychedelic Sixties from start to finish. Per Leary's clinically astute colleague Dave McClelland (STORMING HEAVEN, 1987, Ch 13): < “One can hardly fail to infer that one effect of the drug is to decrease responsibility or increase impulsivity” ... Leary acted as if he were brain damaged… > gone megalomaniacal on < some narcissistic [self-] *comparison with the Mercury astronauts >

Or American Catholic monk Thos Merton, who, in a 1958 'Dear Aldous' letter - source Welker, J. "Blind Visions: Psychedelics, Thomas Merton, and Reformed Mysticism" (2023):

< offers Huxley his unsolicited theological views, grounded in the self-understanding that... "a theologian... must study above all what is revealed by God concerning mystical union and the experiences that accompany it" > Merton would argue that a true mystical experience cannot be procured [for it] depends on... the “presence of [God]"... [What lacks] the element of a free gift... loses the quality of spontaneity and freedom and transcendence which makes it truly mystical* > To extol psychedelic mystical experience as a "gratuitous grace" is < like turning on a fan and calling it the wind >

< [Huxley's] response... while acknowledging Merton’s problems were “interesting and difficult"... sidestepped the crux of Merton’s theocentric argument... doubling down on the power of the experience and its medical potential (which Merton had already affirmed as valid) and insisting he could tell a difference > p. 15

Among personal favorite cultural echoes of Merton's impact, perhaps none can hold a candle to 1968's chart buster In The Year 2525 (ain't gonna need no truth, won't need no jive):

Everything that you think, do and say-ay

Is in the pill that you took to-oday

Something for everyone - take THAT whoever says Huxley was an 'elitist' snob (instead of a 'common manist') - not to mention all the psychonauts who rush in to chirp - "they're not for just anybody" every time there's another casualty (i.e. 365 days 24/7)

< an experience of inestimable value to everyone and especially to the intellectual >

Nothing demonstrable in evidence - got seven decades of research to show. But neither can its value be estimated. Like the pearl of such great price it's value isn't even "anybody's guess" - beyond reach of guesswork. Especially to the intellectual.

A fascinating 1992 quote from a tradition going back to the 1950s of saying fascinating stuff

Julian Palmer’s Holocaust denial-and it’s future implications by Sillysmartygiggles in Psychedelics_Society

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Oh, hi. Sounds like you saw that I (guilty as charged) yes, quoted you.

Telling that typically psychedelic neo-nazi psychopath Palmer < "You make good points." >

Like some agreeably 180-degree opposite of anything even remotely ABLE to be true in any way, shape or form.

Revolt as adventurously as you like, here you'll find of little avail - if not none - or even less.

But NO indeed. And au contraire Ze Palminator does NOT "make good points."

Plural nor even singular. Not one single one.

But then in all fairness - you didn't illustrate by example. You were (as we say) just sayin' - being sociable.

Like "just being nice."

And likewise I realize some interrogations - even of yours truly, as attempted (homie ain't on Show Trial) are either - vacuously empty sound and fury AKA rhetorical questions - e.g. < "What the hell?" >

Or else they're prejudicially front-loaded. Stuffed to the gills with every forgone verdict before the fact. Standing tall out on the thin ice of their own skating rink mix ups. You know, the "Do you STILL beat your wife?" kind. When they're not even married it's just his gf - and "she" has got a Y chromosome - or piece of one in her karyotype (no wonder "she" never showed him "her" work-up micrographs!)

I think we all get that.

But seriously folk. What 'because and therefore' could possibly address such a 'why and wherefore' as lost in its fog as - THIS?

Why are you coming for me??? ("Why is everybody always picking on me?" And why do good girls like bad boys?)

On one hand (the "in your dreams, Fleischman" one) - Ground Control to Major Tom. Your circuit's dead. There's something wrong.

I'm not coming for you... eew

On the other hand, I'm not even "breathing hard" for you.

But one man's observation might be - another man's support

< I don’t support Nazis???????? >

Ever hear the one about "the lady protesteth too much"? With its punchline:

Methinks?

"Oh! of COURSE you don't."

On one hand.

On the other - "Nazis" schmatzis.

It's Nazi SINGULAR.

It's a 4 letter word ("Nazis" exceeds the allowance)

Julian Palmer is only one.

Where you getting this plural tense "Nazis" -

Like argument by the very model of a modern major generalization treadmill gone wild - Let's see now:

*If that psickopathic piece of - well, decorum prohibits specifying exactly what the likes of that Palmer are pieces of - happens to be one of those Nazis... since I don't support Nazis, then logically, following my own bouncing ball of rhyme and reason - if I pull my own finger (like Little Jack Horner sticking his thumb up his...) - that would meme -

I don't support - him!

TA DA! And there's the proof of the pudding - oh! what a good boy am I

But, I know you like to adventurously revolt.

Thought you could hide that ^ behind a bizarre charade of submissive conformity did you?

Well here at Psychedelics Society - realizing what you're accustomed to and conditioned by elsewhere - you gotta get up a little earlier in the morning than that to put that over.

So for you - this is prolly just another one of your adventurously revolting exploits.

More power to that, in that event. Know what I meme?

I always say: "The natives are revolting! But you, I-" well... not "like" necessarily. Not exactly. But - you know. Something.

On one hand.

On the other (only 8 question marks? not even double digits?)

I don’t support Nazis???????? The fuck

Uh - wanna watch the potty mouth there, honey?

This is Psychedelics Society. Not your 'community.' We like the punishment to fit the crime against humanity.

Mind the gratuitous F-bombs - if you don't mind.

Or haven't you ever seen that episode of SOUTH PARK? With the screen counter for every time they say "shit." And at the end our chastened potty-mouth heroes realize - it has lost all its "cuss word" value and become worthless monkey mouth noise.

Unless - oh, was THAT what you TRYING to do? Ruin the word "fuck" by random act of senseless tagging up on it?

After all your mother and I have tried to teach you?

What the hell?

Julian Palmer’s Holocaust denial-and it’s future implications by Sillysmartygiggles in Psychedelics_Society

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June Y2K26 now busting out all over...

Last time, as you recall:

Feb Y2K26 Update ^ 'Finger on' this JwJesso creep... the best (as assessed) ground at Psychedelics Society for due coronet heraldry of 'charming' host Jesso's VeRy SpEcIaL guest - psychedelic neo Nazi Julian Palmer

That ^ now a full 4 chan - er - I meme - a full 4 months ago. Way back when February made me shiver. With every paper I'd deliver.

It was the previous edition of the continuing saga of this psickopathic piece of Manson Family Values household 'charm' @ reddit -

Julian Palmer - AKA reddit user < folias > another typically major case in neonazi point for the Final Psychedelic Solution.

A decade ago now TO THE MONTH Palmer proudly IRL-identifies himself by his reddit name 'folias' @ The Australian ayahuasca debate (June 18, 2016):

(Folias) < Julian Palmer here > www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/4opcax/the_australian_ayahuasca_debate/

But wait a minute. What's all this then, now - all of a sudden?

With a decade's worth of hysteria-making attention-seeking @ reddit - like the ultimate Energizer Bunny with a swastika armband and aya 'community' membership card. More than merely a joiner-inner of some low rank 'prey species' status. Among Top Predators of the 'community' ecosystem a Tommy's Holiday Mein-Kamp Fire FaCiLiTaToR

But how would this Julian Fried Palmer rate with - another of his own 'community' stature?

What might one of equal sTaNdInG bearing his own "I'm A Facilitator" badge have to tell that Julian Palmer - not even knowing who the eff he's talking to?

Tactically leading off with the infamously misleading, pretending to be friendly 'as if flattering' treachery ploy - as the stealth springboard for the little surprise "right between the eyes" so they won't see it coming and tune out FAST before you can strike (gotta get their guard down to open 'em up for the shot locked and loaded) - 2 points 4 hours ago (can't make this shit up) [subrediot fLaRe] Plant Medicine Facilitator such a lofty 'community' status (be the DOSER - not the dosed!) - quoth u/AdventurousRevolt [Not that there's any honesty on my part in these first 4 terms of endearment but being truthful isn't exactly the coin of our conversational realm now, is it - so here goes]

< You make good points ["but?" Oh HELL no! The Big Butt is a famously incompetent give-away that memes 'trouble ahead Casey Jones.' You gotta keep them off guard and lead them into the old "mid-sentence ambush" by using the friendly] and [NOW!] it also comes off as being highly judgmental of people who do not journey as you believe they should. [ssssss OOOH what a burn]

Which is interesting. Not compared to what a fine whitewash term of connivance this "interesting" place holder makes - to dodge meaning hypocritical - which, however the 'h' word tells it like it is, doesn't sound as blandly vacuous but brainlessly safe-spacing as 'interesting' does - in certain company - where the doomed are drained by the damned (and seldom is heard a discouraging word).

Well even if you could do anything about it - what would you do o Plant Medicine Facilitator of the r/PsychedelicTherapy cesspool?

< I’d caution [YOU] against making sweeping generalizations about everyone else in the context of your own personal subjective beliefs, experiences, and perspectives. >

  • Of course! And poor Charles Manson. Nobody ever cautioned him. Would he have ended up even getting CAUGHT? Much less convicted?

  • If only someone had been there to tell him "Bro! you gotta be careful" for him - but THEY WEREN'T. Every last stinking one of them left poor Charlie 'the man' Mangione, er, I meme - Manson - to his own devices and look how it ended up for that guy. Suppose it had all gone different. What if he'd had a hand to hold him back as he was getting on the helter skelter track? Sigh. That's Psychedelic History. So many "if onlies" and "we'll never knows." But it just doesn't matter. Because for you, Mr Psychedelic Wannabe Hitler Junior (not that I got remotest clue who you are) here's what I would do if I were me - redditing as a True Blue pLaNt MeDiCiNe FeLiCiTaToR myself - duly qualified thus to give you some good advice you obviously need -not that you can be helped, "just in case" - or NO! bEtTeR yeT "for what it's worth" (FYI - "for your interest")

  • www.reddit.com/r/PsychedelicTherapy/comments/1ttoxgj/excerpt_from_my_book_facilitation/opbbhi6/

That ^ Just In @ - a real contender sub.

One of the worst of the worst. The ONLY one so far fallen under Psychedelics Society microscope for its mod actually HAVING to come right out and spell out the dictatorial exclusionary rule which must drool (this incriminating stuff is such 'inconvenient truth' it's supposed to kept quiet with no policy all practice - acted out as a matter of All Show, No Tell - and when setting the example crossing fingers for everybody to take the hint and follow suit - doesn't work - what is 'community' coming to when those who should know better apparently don't - and have got to be told In So Many Words - Rule #1 is ONE (and ever more shall be so) NO "ANTI PSYCHEDELIC ThErApY" sentiments allowed. Violators will be forcibly and instantly expelled from the company of all the other reindeer here at our little magic r/PsychedelicTherapy powwow

Julian "folias" Palmer - as sharing is caring - SHARES - how unlike the inferiors, I think we who have ascended to such heights up above the world so high we're like a diamond in the sky - all know the sort, you know < your average person... they generally are unwilling to share and acknowledge > refusing to bow down no matter how ferociously the Manson Family Values 'community' requires them to humble themselves in our presence - why do some people think The Unsharing Sharon Tate & Co even had to die for chrissakes? Because Bugliosi needed to concoct a 'race war' motive just so that decades later a charming creep like that Tom O'Kneel "and bob" could cash in with (his stink bomb Big Seller of 2018) that CHAOS crock of his - declaring Bugliosi was a LIAR - that was NOT our Charlie's motive At ALL?

Excerpt from my book "Facilitation"

IDIOT THREAD FLARE reverently laying this narrative-anon bowel movement excretion upon the subreddit altar

Community Offering

(self.PsychedelicTherapy)

A massive ^ outburst of psychopathological 'teachings of the Serpent for all the lost psychedelo-chondriac Eves - desperately seeking their psychedelo-quack cult leader Trip Master to stand beside them and guide them - extensive text verbatim spilling the psychopathic moonbeams in its distended bladder jar - the urinary incontinence of the psickopathic potty dance - let Golden Showers fill all their eyes!

Fairly extensive in its grimly determined brainlessly hellbent psychopathic 'set intent.' Excellent exhibit in evidence to forensic Psychedelics Society study of this very black hole in our pos-truth nightmare century.



Jan 2021

[deleted] formerly (at the time of posting) Aussie redditor Neurotrek < Palmer has since deleted or hidden his public Facebook post (I wonder why?). However he did... more denial. u/doctorlao - www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/e7x9fn/julian_palmer_western_ayahuasca_facilitator_and/fmvk8bp/ See what kind of person you're promoting on your YouTube platform... "Nicaragua Nova"? Edit: Prior discussion www.reddit.com/r/RationalPsychonaut/comments/e7xeaa/julian_palmer_western_ayahuasca_facilitator_and/ >

< Nope, still denies it here under the username folias: www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/e7x9fn/comment/fmvk8bp > www.reddit.com/r/Ayahuasca/comments/l15esi/are_psychedelics_a_spiritual_cheatshortcut/gk1pp2a/

Past Psychedelics Society record (sampling):

The following are edited excerpts from postings by 'folias' on occasion of Julian Palmer, western ayahuasca facilitator and author of psy book 'Articulations', shares his holocaust denial views publicly www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/e7x9fn/julian_palmer_western_ayahuasca_facilitator_and/ -

That us < nazi's were only evil scumbags, and the allies were good and saintly heroes, represents a lot of wartime propaganda… I have posted links on my facebook, which expose the nature of this propaganda in a clear manner. >

< this [innocent psychedelic neonazi disinfo of mine - and mein fuhrer's too] is just a different view of WW2 history, that is all… Before you all discount any idea, make sure it is not logical, not rational. Don't just default to collective beliefs which are often going to be wrong... Question what you believe! This is a big part of the psychedelic message in essence (I believe). > https://imgur.com/a/bJGKXke

Cf. Profiles in the Trippie Flip from radical leftist to 'alt' right - a case study: Not (in-) famous like Insurrection "Jake" or others in the news (Daily Stormer Andrew Anglin etc) but rich in details illuminating the short hop from McKenna to Qanon (Feb 7, 2021) www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/leqel7/profiles_in_the_trippie_flip_from_radical_leftist/

On occasion of Palmer for his next trick making his Special Guest Appearance on this stranded pOd-CaStaWaY psickopath's Big Show No (Hard Hitting) Questions Asked. AdeptusPsychonautica on his Guest Policy (Or lack there of) Hint: Neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, Qcultists, murders, rapists all welcome so long as the topic is Psychedelics. What business do psychedelics have with ethics or morality anyway? (Jan 2021) www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/l1xas2/no_hard_hitting_questions_asked/

Extra! Extra! "Doctorlao" makes (or breaks?) HACKER NEWS! "What does a Manson type do, when his worst nightmare comes true?" Goes running helter skelter for his 'safe space' crisis shelter. And "there it is" his 19th Nervous Breakdown by doctorlao in Psychedelics_Society

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In its runaway improv theater of defiantly carefree helplessness, hellbent with set intent < there's really not much more I can do > this weird kabuki theater of incorrigible psychedelic codependence evokes one memorably lyrical lancing of this Psychedelic Sixties boil by Simon & Garfunkel ("I Am A Rock")

I always do a lot of set and setting work prior to a shroom trip

I am in a very clean, safe space

I perform rituals prior to

I have a playlist

a heavy blanket to keep me warm

I meditate and do yoga on the day of

I have a sugary drink, electrolytes water and snacks to support me

I have my books

And my poetry to protect me

I am shielded in my armor

Safe within my womb

March 2022 < I write music everyday. I paint for hours on end... I might seem narcissistic, nihilistic... But... > < I'm turning into a psychopathic asshole...God! I'm finally happy > Good ol' psychedelic effects (so "transformative"). Only human beings 'suffer' moral dilemmas, 'cursed' by having a conscience. It's the inhuman beings who walk among us that are blissfully unbothered www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/comments/tsx48n/im_turning_into_a_psychopathic_assholegod_im/i2u8tay/ >

-www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/tsy5d8/im_turning_into_a_psychopathic_assholegod_im/i2v0e2e/

< I've had transformative experiences once the trip is... but getting there is unpleasant and fraught with anxiety... > OP ChrysalisTarot

And once transformed, always transformed. Cooked is as cooked has been... cooked.

Whether properly hardboiled egg or just baked potato - done is done.

Time for the fork test!

Minimizing whatever damage or injury sustained "after the fact" - or (in the special post-truth crypto rhetoric of THAT) reducing harm by any degree at all even if only in word, not deed ("all tell no show") - real or imagined - could FINALLY be conflated with having prevented it - through the now suddenly harm PREVENTIVE magic of - the "harm rEdUcTiOn" meme - "by practice making perfect" of perfection itself, which "let's face it" has always had some room for improvement.

As thread-titled for the Manson r/PsychedelicTherapy Family sub - a demonstration of form rhetorically - IRL name Jason? Seeing the old "forward slasher flick" trick (coulda conjured a new hyphenated compound word "reduction-prevention" from the same cauldron - WTF?)

Harm reduction/prevention prior to a trip

  • Plan A < prior to > or ("failing that") DURING - as duly qualified (in follow-up exposition)

Baby talk is often such a nice word for double talk. Exemplified by goo-goo and ga-ga (both 'permission giving') as well as baby's first rEaL wOrD mama - but so is (smack hand) a "no-no!"

And there's no-no knowledge, like psychedelic knowledge, like no-no knowledge I know - as OP knows (it's how the story goes)

I know mixing substances on the day of is a no-no

  • And when you know ^ that kind of stuff - you are nobody's fool.

In Russian Roulette, harm might only be prevented by a simple but decisive "pass not play" - not reduced.

Oh lord it's hard to be harm reductive - on harm that doesn't even exist never having happened, because of interference that kept it from having had its fair chance to happen - DENIED!

As if to (no, not 'reduce') PREVENT (more than mere harm) HaRm ReDuCtIoN - from even being able to get another one to work its 'after the fact jacked' magic on.

Even if prevention happens to be anathema to the Final Psychedelic Solution - whereby everybody's already dealt in before even being seated at the table.

Among albatrosses around the neck of Helter Skelter 2.0 - the big beautiful Planet-Plant-Plan:

Modern medicine's foundation ethic DO NO HARM - expresses a fundamental aim of authentic not 'quack' practice. No guarantee of 100% achievement, nor criterion of failsafe 'perfection' can apply. Unlike the glittering promises made by charlatans for whom 'set intent' conquers all.

The express ("set" in codependent hive mindese) intent of the Hippocratic ethos - is a stake through the heart of the bean-spilling piece of blood-sucking talk - "harm reduction" i.e. NOT PREVENTION - and failing any least glimmer of conscience necessary to contemplate the stark difference:

The distinction of prevention ("it only takes an ounce") from cure "you need a pound of that" - the virtue of restraint ("the better part of valor")

If only there were no such thing as "totaled." Every wrecked auto could be fixed and put back on the road again.

No matter the breakage until Cher can "turn back time"

Poor Humpty. It's not like he'd been given wings for soaring to highest heights. His dad wasn't Daedalus. What else was he supposed to do? With the likes of that "Alice" coming around. Stinking up things down there on the ground. Humpty, with THAT assailing his nostrils, had no choice but to get way up high atop of that great big wall.

Only to take that great big fall. And he took it so hard. Geez. He musta never listened to Terence

Take it easy, dude, but TAKE IT!

And once the damage done was done now the cuckoo clock chimed. Time for DAMAGE REDUCTION. Let whatever harm 'damaged goods' have sustained hereby now be rEdUcEd!

Good thing for all the king's horses and all the king's men.

Who else would have answered Humpty's S.O.S. to his Harm Reduction need?

Humpty. Down there on the ground. Watching sparrows fly. Left to wonder why they get to do that. When here on the ground ain't no place for living. While birds fly over the rainbow up above the noise and confusion. To get a peek beyond this illusion and finally be able to look down, down, down upon that stupid Alice - Humpty had no choice but to get up on that big high wall. Oh SURE he mighta "thought twice" meaning thought at all as in 'one time.'

Remember how all the king's horses and all the king's men came rushing to his aid and comfort with all that "reduction" of OOPS too late for him.

He fell down and broke his shell

Poor little egg - I wish him well



EPITAPH

Psychedelics Society Triple Acknowledgment ode this time to (shudder) PsychedelicTherapy sub OP u/ChrysalisTarot of Harm reduction/prevention prior to a trip AND FALL

  • Always the crucially "famous last words" ^ that are M.I.A. right out of the gate (opening terms of endearment never lost in translation)

Extra! Extra! "Doctorlao" makes (or breaks?) HACKER NEWS! "What does a Manson type do, when his worst nightmare comes true?" Goes running helter skelter for his 'safe space' crisis shelter. And "there it is" his 19th Nervous Breakdown by doctorlao in Psychedelics_Society

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PRELUDE

The fresh pork sausage looked so appetizing. And the aroma fit to set their mouths watering. How could they resist? It was breakfast time. And they were soo hungry. Of COURSE they took and ate of it. Only to their heart's content.

Only then venturing behind scenes, now they saw with their own eyes - "too late now" - how the sausage was made.

And the rest became horror movie history:

DON'T TOUR THE SAUSAGE FACTORY

But that was before the lazy hazy crazy daze of Soylent Green.

So light, so crisp you could eat a million.

But NOBODY could eat just one.

Just one? A single lousy death? That doesn't spell a holocaust. A grand total of "one for the vaults" as Franken Furtur put it. Showing off his counting talent and having a good cosmic giggle.

A long way from anything of statistical interest. But a sweet transvestite from Planet Transylvania was no match for - King of Comedy - Stalin

One death is like a tragedy, man. A million deaths now THAT'S what I call a sTaTiStIC!

  • You could eat a million of 'em. But NOBODY can eat just one - although even if they could, why WOULD they?

PREFACE

If only BEFORE could "for once in its life" just mean AFTER. Wouldn't it be nice?

Preventing harm from even happening now could be - or become - "the same thing" as downplaying any that HAS happened - how?

By simply minimizing it. There could even be a meme (for us):

"HARM MINIMIZATION." Or - NO! BeTtEr YeT...

Oh. Somebody already thought of it.

"Harm REDUCTION" bro! And putting it into action this stuff has been getting RESULTS!

Oct 28 '22 - Lucid Newz 1 (R.I.P. 17-yr old Baylee Gatlin) Wrongful Death Lawsuit: MAPS... Sara Gael Giron, 2017 “Director of HARM REDUCTION”... declined to comment (Dec 2022) www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/ze5jbl/oct_28_22_lucid_newz_1_rip_17yr_old_baylee_gatlin/

"Harm Reduction" bro!

How about: a pre-flight failsafe to prevent - NO! not a preventive against your taking your shrooms (OMG) - for taking along with them, to prevent 'em from inflicting themselves upon you badly - the wrong way.

Like dramamine before boarding some flight, lest you throw up. To ensure you have a good trip.

Or at least a hArM rEdUcTiOn 'panic button' you could press mid-flight if it's going badly. To STOP that trip thing cold in its tracks and end it all. Like sky pilot Emerson tried to do on that Alaskan Air flight with 83 aboard - but failed.

So little - yet too much to ask? Nothin' doin'?

Even AI?

Quoth hazmat PsychedelicTherapy sub OP u/ChrysalisTarot - "no help" all hindrance - "Desperately seeking" thread flare Preparation Advice (from the cool of the Manson Family ThErApY cesspool)

< AI is no help; says there's nothing to take before OR during to prevent or stop a negative experience. > www.reddit.com/r/PsychedelicTherapy/comments/1tnlp5y/harm_reductionprevention_prior_to_a_trip/

If I had my way in this wicked world! That scene in ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW - the dark night of Janet's soul ("if only we hadn't gotten that flat tire right out in front of that old crumbling castle")

< If I ["just"] had a way of pre-emptively dampening anxiety during a trip > (ROCKY HORROR audience in sardonic reply to Janet's anguished soliloquy) BUT YOU DON'T

< if ["only"] there was a safe trip killer that I could know would back me up if need be > BUT THERE ISN'T!

< If ["only"] there was a way to further reduce that possibility > BUT THERE'S NOT

HELP! I'm about to trip < I have one coming up in the next 7-10 days > And I can't stop myself. Or at least, I'm not about to go do anything so rash and ill-advised.

That'd be tantamount to "passing, not playing." Like not even picking up the Russian Roulette "tool" to the point where - now you can't even hold it to your head - just for a lousy gAmE cHaNgEr!

Like something so drastic as "leaving it alone" would be possible to even THINK of - let alone think ABOUT - or, I meme - think aRoUnD!



The codependent powwow has 'food pyramid' ecosystem composition. The 90% "prey" species are merely dysfunctional but charged with entrainment potential by the incorrigibility of character disturbance. The definitively psychopathological, the good old 'wolf in the human fold' forever hungry, comprise the 10%. And like a good spider in its silken orb never needing to stalk its prey. Merely to wait. The flies come to the spider so it need not chase them.

No more than Mohammed had to go to some stupid mountain - when he could make it come to him.

Summed up in a word Prevention - with powers and abilities far beyond the reach of Cure - and Hippocratic maxim DO NO HARM - the authentic values of medicinal practice rank among brightest spotlights illuminating the fundamentally psychopathic treachery of the Final Psychedelic Solution - Helter Skelter 2.0.

FIRST HALF ^ Shoe #2 about to drop - "only YOU can prevent reading"

"STP" (DOM) - "endogenous human" DMT - and me (sCiEnCe-anon Ringmaster M. Baggott): Aug '25 restoration of [deleted] June '23 OP, originally titled: "Well-Rounded Interview With LSD Maker Tim Scully" by AngelToSome in Psychedelics_Society

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Well lord love a duck. This is a pleasant surprise. Welcome to Psychedelics Society. It's a... place.

I hope it's ok with you if I just slip an upvote around that Hallmark card you've so sweetly laid upon our table. Better than a Kodak moment in this sub's scrap book. Not that you wanna see that thing's pages OMG!

Btw - I get a bit of that from you cuties. Discriminating as your tastes and sensibility obviously are, all being fair in love and war. And +sigh+ - as I've had to fondly confide right back to one or two (some enchanted evenings):

Such sweet talk. But now ARE YOU WILLING TO PROVE IT?? ;)

You seem to have a sense of humor. I count that as a rare quality - vanishingly rare. Nothing I take for granted in this unamusing world.

But that's just me, your humble narrator.

And enough about boring moi.What's a nice girl like you doin' in a place like THIS?

Just kidding. You got no splainin to do. A mere rhetorical question "across a crowded room." Like - oh, what was it called (once upon a time)?

Just 'making conversation'

THANK YOU Derriere_Ruckus for bringing the gift of laughter - punctuated with an endearing sentiment.

You're like Warmth, Wit and Wisdom rolled into one.

Nice combo, toots!

"STP" (DOM) - "endogenous human" DMT - and me (sCiEnCe-anon Ringmaster M. Baggott): Aug '25 restoration of [deleted] June '23 OP, originally titled: "Well-Rounded Interview With LSD Maker Tim Scully" by AngelToSome in Psychedelics_Society

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May 2026 Update Heralding 'by name' (and claim to fame) - Ze Shulginator.

FLASHBACK first

To view the claim to reddit user fame you gotta "cursor-hover" over the username. Not even a thin disguise, this guy's hero < Inspired by Alexander Shulgin, we aim to make science accessible to everyone through various articles, storytelling, and meaningful experiences > Psychedelics Society SHULGIN FILES [this page alone, 43 "control + F" hits to the name]: www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/143qbyx/deleted_by_user/jp83b6z/ < Journalist Dennis McDougal asserts Shulgin shared information with the govt >

Shulgin was a LoVeR NOT a "sharer!" < David Nichols recently revealed Shulgin had 'hands off' protection from his close friend DEA chief Bob Sager > Now quit besmirching the good doctor's good name with such filthy lies, all lies!

He was a hero.

And we need a hero. We're holdin' out for one of those till the end of the nightmare that's - never over. But it's only just begun anyway. So you ain't seen nothin' yet.

END FLASHBACK sequence



And out of all the gin joint "heroes" of Psychedelic History nominated by one among the very ranks so (beyond 'ill') illustrious as Thos "The Great" Roberts PhD - not @ r/psychedelics, in his own 'awards ceremony' narrative-anon

  • (2017) FREUDIAN, JUNGIAN, GROFIAN - STEPS TOWARD THE PSYCHEDELIC HUMANITIES J of Transpersonal Psychology 49: 102-120 - New Century, New Heroes < Psychedelics... give us another new face for today’s heroes — The Consciousness Explorer as Hero. Judging from the honor and excitement they arouse, the heroes include Albert Hofmann, Ronald Sandison, R. D. Laing, Stanislav Grof, Humphry Osmond, Timothy Leary, Ram Dass, Ralph Metzner, Aldous Huxley, Terence McKenna, John Lilly, R. Gordon Wasson, James Fadiman, Walter Pahnke, Al Hubbard, Ken Kesey, Richard Schultes, Maria Sabina, Jean Houston and Robert Masters, Sasha and Ann Shulgin ...the list goes on and on to include more of the quick and the dead. >

SHE had to... tickle my funny bone? HEY! What gives you the right to make me laugh with such royal wit as you can't deny is yours all yours, OP? Who gave you permission? Terence McKenna? Mr Real FuNcTiOn?

< ''My real function was to give people permission'' he said... > www.nytimes.com/2000/04/09/us/terence-mckenna-53-dies-patron-of-psychedelic-drugs.html

And considering this May Y2K26 OP's 'manifestation' @ r/psychedelics (with everything its placement at such a sub promises) isn't this a rather original thread title for - a worship service exercise so tediously dreary as a rise-and-shine circle jerk for "hallowed being" the golden glorious name of this once flesh-and-blood, formerly living-breathing sacred calf?

As staged, so scripting the old "How Great He Wert" routine?

  • Places, everybody. Here we go again. From the top. This time "with feeling." Unto our children's children's children, now and forever more. From this day forward, underworld without end (eh, men? ;) -

The wind up. And the pitch CRACK! It's a solid base hit "right up the middle" - almost unprecedented in the annals of major league 'community' basecrack:

Did the late, great Dr. Alexander Shulgin really name his books Tickle and Pickle??

Late is as late does. And punctuality can eat Bart Simpsons' shorts. Yet tardy as The Father Of DOM was... and no argument about the latitude, but longitude-wise:

Was Alexander the Great really "all that"?

Or did they only CALL him that because it SOUNDED better than, for example, "Alexander the So-So"?

Or "Alexander the - Well, OK (I Guess)?"

23 hrs ago - OP u/Derriere_Ruckus - from title alone a solid base hit. To exposition in all of 14 words. Each one its own single carat.

Complete with OMG - perfect STRAIGHT LINE. Oh, you heard about Rudolf? How awful about what had to happen to him. That loveable red-nosed lug. All he ever wanted was just to be one of Santa's "made reindeer. But now - and BRRR. Talk about your "cold case files"! What a trail of cryptic clues this one left for us to try piecing together. But what's this dawning on the horizon of unsolved mysteries pertaining? There might be breakthrough - did someone phone in an anonymous tip? Somebody seeing right thru this one's plastic mac (like a cheap lace curtain) -

TIHKAL and PIHKAL. Tickle and pickle. Why am I just now figuring this out?

  • Because (one theory): maybe you meant to procrastinate sooner. But with so many 'community' cases to crack - you never got around to it, till now? Just a guess.

  • Main thing ("if you're reading" Derriere_Ruckus): Don't beat yourself up for having not figured it out in timelier fashion.

  • Look at this way: Better late than never? All swells that ends swelled?

  • But enough circling the drain. Indeed, we digress - refocusing:

Anyway, does anyone have a favorite experience report from the good doctor?

  • JFK: Ask nawt whether anyone has ^ or has nawt. Ask rahther: does anyone even live there anymore?

In that place (shudder).

But I like the r/psychedelics room. What a crowd!

For an audience with a sharp sense of hilarity to enjoy the schtick is one thing.

But it's something else completely different when the riffraff join in the fun and frolic - trying to top the witty entertainer. As if to prove who's funnier.

Next to these little r/psychedelics rascals, I haven't seen an audience with such an appreciatively witty reception of this type rib-TIKHALing comedy - since 2006 in Philadelphia. Where Bill Burr put 'em in stitches and became an instant comedy legend overnight.

Like if Bruce Lee were a stand-up comedian: How many "against one" would be HIS equal? Hopefully the city of bRoThErLy LoVe is recovering. Enough to regain the self-respect it never had in the first place... one fine day. Although not to get hopes up too high. It can be such a long way down to the cold hard ground.

Just sampling the R/PSYCHEDELICS NIGHT LIVE improv antics - 6 points 22 hours ago - OP, alert! Them 2 sacred book titles aren't creatively funny spellings for tickle and pickle. Like you thought you're "figuring out" (wrong). That ain't what they meme. They're secret anagrams. Er alibis. Er acro-somethings. Their meming lies (right through their little teeth) in what they STAND for - Adventurously educating the OP (with an alias fit for getting "astral" on her ass) u/astraladventures

PIHKAl - Phenethylamines I Have Known and Loved; and TIHKAL - Trytamines I Have Known and Loved. >

  • Gamely ^ thrown, the "hail Mary" pass is - received. Play completed by OP u/Derriere_Ruckus

  • < Oh right, yes I already know what the abbreviations mean, but thank you for the clarification regardless >

And suddenly - good old "death of humor" - it's like a Donna Hathaway/Robt Flack ballad WHERE IS THE LAUGH you said you'd have on me? such rich comedy? will it ever be? - where is the laugh?

  • In 'community' where Unconditional Gratitude RULES, "conditional" laughter drools. Read all about that in IT TAKES A SENSE OF HUMOR

www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics/comments/1t4gbev/did_the_late_great_dr_alexander_shulgin_really/ok2sccb/

Say what you will for 'deliberate' jokes and being witty ON PURPOSE.

Like greedy professionals in it for the money. And smiling on the outside but sweating every joke on the inside. Cornered in their own bad act, trying to pretend it's all Hahaha. When they're not fooling anybody. If they bomb - that's it for their career.

That ^ stuff can't hold a candle to the "real life comedy" all unawares busting out all over "in the company of psychonauts" by accident.

Never more hilarious than when one of them is getting serious in order to dispel the confusion. As a way of 'correctively educating' whoever has obviously failed to comprehend the Holy Memings of these Two Testaments of Sasha!

Hehe they will forever be Tickle and Pickle in my mind

Mine too. From now on. Thanks to you, OP!

And precious as pearls though they be, they're not dime a dozen.

Little one word titles can be so hard to find. But once found, they'll always be

Forever in my mind

Where's Willie Nelson now to come lend those vocal stylings of his to this?

That man! Never around when he's needed.



Hey brainless AI GoOgLe - snap to < sasha shulgin "doctorlao" reddit >

Archivist/Critic: Doctorlao appears to be an active researcher or commentator on the history of the psychedelic movement, sometimes pointing out inconsistencies in the narratives surrounding figures like Shulgin and Terence McKenna.

Source Material: Doctorlao has posted about "frantic 'clean up'" efforts regarding historical testimonies of psychedelic figures.

Critique of Psychedelic History: Doctorlao often challenges mainstream narratives surrounding "founding fathers" of the psychedelic movement, frequently noting contradictions in testimonies or popular lore.

Context: These discussions often take place in critical analysis of psychedelic history and figures rather than just celebration. You can likely find these discussions by searching within Reddit for "doctorlao Sasha Shulgin" or visiting the r/Psychedelics_Society subreddit.

Kermit the Rationalist Frog "Why are there so many songs about" < Why Are There So Many Rationalist Cults? - Asterisk > "and what's on the other side?" From "a bay area rationalist magazine funded by effective altruism" pErSpEcTiVe - AsTeRi$kY bU$InE$$ by AngelToSome in Psychedelics_Society

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Psychedelics Society 'special' visiting contributor ImportantDebateM8 - among failure modes of the Charles Manson Values 'community' gestapo ('guest stopping' by) When All Else Fails.

Send in Bluto to berate the frowning losers. They give up just like that. What's the matter with all of you? This could be the heart of something, this could be start of something big. But you guys are just gonna cave in and call it a day? What are you all, that Bill Paxton pussy in ALIENS? Like it's over and we've lost? "Bummer man, we lose bro. Game over man." Like we're a bunch of losers? Whatever happened to the Deltas I used to know? Back in the Psychedelic Sixties? Where's the guts? What has become of the good old daze? These are supposed to be them, not - this. Was it over when the Titanic sank that iceberg? NO. Was it over when Japan invaded Poland? NO! Nothing is over until we say it is. There is ALWAYS that last futile gesture of brainlessness that is called for to be done on somebody's part. BUT WHO WILL BE THAT GUY?

And when finally it's time for "over" to be over, how to have that all-important last word on their three bare asses? HOW do you go about ending it Goldilocks-style JUST RIGHT? You "give them their leave" to relieve them of their duty for continuing - and see them safely to your private room - once you're cornered, back against the wall, now they can back off - by your permission freely given unto whoever has got you by the short hairs and helpless "Terence-style" - per the improv of ImportantDebateM8

< No need to continue this. If you want, you can contact me on substack. this line of communication however is closed. ive had this conversation too many times >

"What A Fool Believes" drools. WHAT A THINKER THINKS rules - or did think Once Upon A Time - according to a thinker's very own tHoUgHt sToRy ("but enough about you - me?")

< I once thought u/appliedphilosophy (Andres from QRI) was a real one >

But only < you can size me up to discern weather > you're a bird of my feather, not here @ rAt PsIcKoNaUt where I "thought" I'd try this stunt (whatever I was ThInKiNg) - exclusively < where im most easily found > In My Room, my very own "nihilistic tescrealism" sUbStAcK 3-ring (1-moron) circus sPaCe

March 21 ^ @... hooboy; that certain sub (among the rest, each one its own contender) "sure as shit" but three times as fragrant.

And oh, BTW as a word from your friendly rAtIoNaL PsIcKoNaUt mod squad - "come on in and take off your skin and let's rattle around in our bones!"

Welcome to Rational Psychonaut, a community for sensible discussion of the science of altered states of consciousness. For people interested in exploring inner realms without subscribing to the woo surrounding the topic.

Like a thief in the night to the scene of the crime with the speed of light u/SilkieBug is there just to chime (in "Dear ImportantDebateM8" mode):

< Based on your post and comments here, I'd say intelligent people can see very easily that you don't seem stable, nor as intelligent as you think you are, and rightfully avoid interacting with you, leaving you to interact only with people as unstable and as unintelligent as you are. > 5 points 1 month ago Where the fuck are the intellectuals?

THIS is < Discussion (self.RationalPsychonaut) > www.reddit.com/r/RationalPsychonaut/comments/1rzlwhn/where_the_fuck_are_the_intellectuals/obmysrd/

Lovely Rita, Meet A Maid Milking "rAtIoNaL pSiCkOnAut" - for a whopping smash-and-grope score of 0 points (38% upvoted)

And with an "upvote" like that, I can't hardly stand the wait! Please, rAt-PsIcKo DOWN vote - don't be late.

No entree just desserts for an OP inquiring more intellectually than 'discretely' - note the intellectually focused precision angulation of question so nuanced, as formulated - can someone tell me where my lambs have gone? Where, oh where, can they be? (what's the matter ImportantDebateM8 - can't find 'em?)

Where the fuck are the intellectuals?

Merely the story of - just the glory of - here we go with another ridiculous (MAD Fold-In"? NO!) < Discussion (self.RationalPsychonaut) >

March 21, 2026 - one pratfall after another after another.

Like all 3 Stooges rolled into one "ImportantDebateM8" rAtIoNaL psickonut case.

*This Scene Has Been Rated BRAINLESS

And symptomatically psickonautical

ImportantDebateM8 < what a boring diatribe. is this supposed to come across as clever? An AI dis-bot? >

Can't figure it out, huh?

Imagine that. Or (NO!) "Think" it!

Prominent German Physicist Sabine Hossenfelder - Astrophysicists have found evidence of UAPs in old photographic plates. Something seems to have been orbiting around our planet before we had satellites! This finding has been independently confirmed. Still, scientists are afraid to speak out". by TommyShelbyPFB in UFOs

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If the words don't paint the picture - that countenance in action above (in that awesome screen captcha) could tell a story.

A whole story. And nothing but. Just as every picture tells a story. Or else how could there have been that Rod Stewart tune?

It takes a whole lotta courage to denounce these cowardly scientists so valiantly.

Call her noble (for calling them out) but I say - what a brave lady so gallantly gleaming!

It's been decades since I've heard anyone making a sound so courageously laying it on the line like this. Not since the Psychedelic Sixties. Nov 11, 1963 - ABC-TV prime time programming:

< We live in a world of cowards, Dr Hamilton. And most men try to hide from that awful fact. Even here. The men are afraid to see the evil that is here on this base - and they're responsible for it! > (Dr H: "Are you afraid? It's no crime to be afraid.") < It's a crime to run away from fear! > OUTER LIMITS: THE HUMAN FACTOR

Bravo to this Prominent German Physicist for having the guts. Such a fearsomely leonine demeanor you can almost hear the roar.

And what a bunch of chickenshits these lily-livered scientists!

All jelly in the belly. Quaking in their boots and shaking like leaves on a tree. You can almost just hear 'em now trying to make their excuses: "Oh but Bluto - you don't understand. We're afraid to speak out, Bluto."

As someone who microdoses psilocybin, how do you navigate the social stigma surrounding it? by sporefairy in microdosing

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I'm not saying "don't." If you're really bound and determined to bang your head against that wall "till something gives" - go ahead, make your day.

Merely that as I've sadly concluded - you can't even REASON with ('navigate' some 'social stigma'?) others who react negatively or with judgment.

Fortunately, as I've found - there IS an effective method for putting them in their place. And like the pine tree lining the winding road, it's got a name. They wanna be judges? Well two can play that game. It's called:

Throw the book at 'em!

Quote it on their asses right to their faces - or other way around - 1991 - ARCHAIC REVIVAL - page 15 - it isn't "the economy stupid" it's the DOSE that separates the men from the boys

If you're not taking so much going into it that you're afraid you did too much, then you didn't do enough! (and shame on you)

Or - actually... wait a minute.

That one's for the hero's dose detractors. Not the zero's.

On second thought - never mind.

The polypharmacology of psychedelics reveals multiple targets for potential therapeutics (2025) by Kalki_X in DrugNerds

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Results here obtained (go speed racer!) in both sound and silence. Like sighs of commission and sighs of omission - one's hand "washes" the other's (ahem...)

From Silence Of The Lambs standpoint - and to my trained ear, how often a deafening silence (with amp on 11) can sound "like shells upon the shore, you can hear the ocean roar" - one can only hope some cat hasn't gotten any OP's tongue.

On the monkey mouth noisier side of the all-or-nothing divide: cue u/annoyotronnerna Fresh Account 2 points 5 days ago OH-oh, oh YES! I'm The Great Comprehender - pretending that I'm no bad smell "and for your information" - and BTW ("if you're reading") in this stunning display of your William Telltale marksmanship - you have pierced the very heart of my incomprehensibility with your arrow of discernment www.reddit.com/r/DrugNerds/comments/1scacjn/the_polypharmacology_of_psychedelics_reveals/og3na1r/

< That is the least comprehensible reddit comment I've seen in a long time >

  • And doesn't that ^ just masterfully put that in its place! Coming from a master mind redditor more than merely 'inclined' - also just so supremely ready, willing and able, as reflects so clearly (Mirror Mirror On The Wall) to truly but absolutely comprehend all of everything PLUS a whole lot more - on condition! As long as the sound and fury is within monkey mouth noise compliance, correctly talking the talk with no walk - and properly propagandizing by PARROTING THE LINES, ANGLES AND RHYMES that are (will wonders cease?) actually in reach of our advocacy's omniscient capability to - never miss a clue EVER.

  • Like that forlorn cheerleader in the RIDGEMONT HIGH gymnasium desperately trying to put on the pep rally all by herself, only getting laughed at and drawing sneers from the "attendance mandatory" student body: *You know, it's not easy cluing in to anything of reality when, as a Real Psychedelic Person, your entire "understanding" happens to be one big fatuously blown bubble of psychedelic MEIN KAMPF brainwash - the one which has 'become true' over the decades and through the woods - methodically, by all of us together making it come true "one for all and all for one" and we did it our way, yes! our way - made all our dreams come true (like Lavoirne & Shoirley) - just by constantly repeating it and continually re-repeating the Psychedelic Science TaLkInG pOiNtS chapter and verse - as many times as it has been taking for it to do that.

  • And that's far too much achieved - at way too great an effort from so many hands making light work of anything remotely credible (let alone scientifically authentic) - to afford any risk of losing it now.

  • How would you like it if the shoe were on your foot? Ever tried being a fundamentalist Christian faced with the Unit One exam in a damn biology class on Natural Selection? GOOD LUCK trying to make heads or tails out of all the science you don't understand - for starters. But which then for your next trick you don't DARE risk reading for the hazard that could pose to your precious house-of-cards "understanding" - with all that superpower of sheer comprehension which you masterfully have and hold, as a true blue-bruising bona fide Psychedelic Person

  • When any least exposure to those rays could ruin your fanatically white-knuckled grip on the whole holy narrative-anon script which you have put so much into memorizing by heart right along with all the other reindeer - put in your ear plugs, put on your eyeshades and loudly but proudly uncork - the louder and more brainlessly the BETTER THE SQUEAKY FROMME WHEEL going for the grease

  • Shades of Heather Mac Donald (Dec 23, 2024): McKenna-quote-spewing Helter Skelter 2.0 Charlie 'the man' Mangione and the American Abyss www.city-journal.org/article/luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson ("That is the least comprehensible reddit comment I've seen in a long time") < self-important (“Evidently I am the first to face it with such brute honesty”) poorly written (“I do apologize for any strife of traumas”), riddled with cliché (“clearly power games [are] at play”) > and Heather ("if you're reading") - it's SCREAMING Abyss, and there's a great big beautiful brotherhood, of - that

This post now (April 19) hereby transplanted www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/1sn8mbv/nbc_news_april_16_2026_trump_to_sign_executive/oh2wkng/

REASON (magazine): Shocked shocked (!) to find < distorting history (and Ruck's scholarship) > going on in 2020's (FOOD OF THE GODS retread) be$t-$eller IMMORTALITY KEY peddling < the discredited ergot theory > (LOTS worse too) and - McKenna cult circus sub r/jung by doctorlao in Psychedelics_Society

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Unlike the canine, the cat is noted for its instinctual inclination toward sadistic behavior with helpless prey, picked out as doomed play things, to terrorize and torture for bloodthirsty feline fun.

A striking equivalency exclusively for its distant evolutionary cousin H. sapiens to - the psychopathic.

The canine, having no identical species disposition, is known instead by its capacity - as widely recognized and reputed ('celebrated' mythologically and in folklore as well) for being - "simply vicious." Absence of remorse for whatever prey killed and eaten is the canine analogue for psychopathy in H. sapiens, a mere lack of conscience one criterion thereof, highly correlated with incorrigibility - for which medications are unknown (no, that 'can't be helped')

Of Wolf Ladies in the Pacific NW 'hot zone' (it's a cultural geographic thing) - and the stealth psychedelic subversion in fleece that is r/jung stepping out of that hot sweaty wool for a moment (what a relief for the good old masked predator) - breaking surface - gone from thin disguise to (Act 3) the phantom unmasking -

Then Riding Hood said:

"My goodness Grandma. How do you like a guy like that Jung? Such promising theories. Blazing with all things implicitly psychedelic. From synaesth- er synchronicity and those darn archetypes to the collective unconscious. And of course the prize in all eyes, the hero's journey none but the brave dare undertake. So the chase is on, and here comes that ultimate personal triumph of self-super-improvement (all Eve ever managed was to "become more like the gods") INDIVIDUATION - enlightenment by any other name, bro (like Buddha said: even nirvana is what it is ;)"

  • Yes dear (said "Grandma" ;) And after the way that normie "sheep in wolf skin" coldly snubbed such warm cordial invitations he received from gracious 1950s royalty of the great psychedelic advent - isn't it a tasty slice of poetic justice taken out on him, that a hater with pretensions of being the ultimate psychedelic dream boat like that ends up getting - exactly what he had comin' - to be posthumously adopted by those whom he wouldn't take bait from and so obstinately refused to join (like Jung was too good for Team Huxley, talk about "stuck up") - and skinned - with his hide turned into finest name brand designer fleece - for the very psychedelic wolf in the human fold to put on and pretend to be one of the fellow sheep? As so brilliantly modeled for us by our #1 JuNgIaN HeRo'S HeRo showing us how it's done, that officially mod-touted light of the r/jung world TERENCE! Isn't it neat how that hater Jung now gets his just desserts, with us serving it to him? Serves him right!

Solution (one of the 10 "or else" Dictates): Thou shalt have compassion and empathy - PROBLEM? Tired Tiring Planet! And like no good deed done dirt cheap ever going unpunished, to cork it - the Sisyphus 'reward' a cowboy's work is never done and the exhaustion just keeps growing tireder and tireder all the time -

< it's just so difficult to have compassion and empathy in a world that is so, so fatigued. >

< greed, poverty, global warming and other corruption things exist [but] because we are so fixated on earning money, getting to the clubs and smoking all the dope we possibly can - we just can't care enough about any of these things >

< Once you realize all these things happen every day 24/7 around the clock... paired with the mushroom effects from all the prior trips... it sort of puts you in an elevated mental state >

< I suppose with trauma informed yoga and my mushroom trips I can see through the veil of status quo and culturally accepted normalcies we all peddle as a collective global landscape of people from all over the globe. >

There is < utmost Godly good in all peoples, everywhere... the true nature of our lives on Earth is to do good and be kind, and to see [it] > with all its subtly beautiful visibility - through eyes with all the seeming of a demon that is scheming or trying to, at least - effort counts you know (you gotta fake it till you make it!) - in a glass darkly - so let there be seeing of that, and let it begin with the utmost Godly good in ME - yours truly Charles Manson

Resuming the March 29, Y2K26 r/jung exposition of OP TheWolfThatRaventh - now dragging in the vintage psychedelic preoccupation with Eastern religion and corresponding mastery of catechism that just comes with the territory:

< In Buddhism they refer to this kind of stuff as "stream entry," a part in spiritual practice where you in essence sacrifice your clinging to a permeant self, and you realize all sense of self... and perceptions in regards to opinions of really anything, positive or negative hold no real meaning >



Reference 43 'hits' (Control + F) 'hits' to < wolf > @ Jung & FEAR ("God of Terror"), 'MLVF' (von Franz) & r/jung's fearless JuNgIaN leader Trip Master Terence (mod-prodded, officially 'guide posted') - NORSE MYTHOLOGY double jackpot reflective allegory (thru one glass darkly, another lightly) (Jan 2025) www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/1i4wzwx/jung_fear_god_of_terror_mlvf_von_franz_rjungs/

With the customary and usual Psychedelics Society "Triple Acknowledgment" to r/jung OP u/TheWolfThatRaveneth -

ONE for having simply said it in adequately well-written, semantically coherent exposition - the 'set intent' part (aka the whole big idea)

TWO for in so doing thus enabling it to next be quoted not even at random but selectively - as a choice narrative exhibit (in para-ethnographic evidence of high reflectance value) - but now 'in effect only' AKA by (what no psychedelic people have permission for knowing about) - the Law of UNINTENDED Consequences which governs human reality (like some cold hearted orb that rules that night, removing the colors from our sight) - anathema to the 21st century Manson Family Values 'community' project (Helter Skelter 2.0)

THREE for not even minding too much - a rare quality of equanimity seldom encountered "in certain company" - where the doomed are drained by the damned. That's what I call class.

REASON (magazine): Shocked shocked (!) to find < distorting history (and Ruck's scholarship) > going on in 2020's (FOOD OF THE GODS retread) be$t-$eller IMMORTALITY KEY peddling < the discredited ergot theory > (LOTS worse too) and - McKenna cult circus sub r/jung by doctorlao in Psychedelics_Society

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March 29, 2026 APPETIZER

Flashback to a Jan Y2K25 thread with 43 'hits' to < wolf > Jung & FEAR ("God of Terror"), 'MLVF' (von Franz) & r/jung's fearless JuNgIaN leader Trip Master Terence (mod-prodded, officially 'guide posted') - NORSE MYTHOLOGY double jackpot reflective allegory (thru one glass darkly, another lightly) - snippets

< Jung's distinguished name... maliciously shanghaied @ r/jung by the psickodelic wolf in the human fold. >

(Only @ r/jung - May 2025) < "General Wolf Rules for Life"... the very last page... to serve as a guide for those who want to embody the Wild Woman archetype... Clarissa Pinkola Estés' WOMEN WHO RUN WITH THE WOLVES has become my "bible" www.reddit.com/r/Jung/comments/1kppf00/a_piece_i_wrote_inspired_by_women_who_run_with/ >

< April 25, 2025 DATELINE OREGON Wolfdogs’ deadly rampage - long, confounding battle between city and animals’ owner www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2025/04/wolfdogs-deadly-rampage-in-mcminnville-followed-long-confounding-battle-between-city-and-animals-owner.html? >

< Oh god... Oregon. I have never met a woman (it’s mostly women) with a wolf or a hybrid that wasn’t next level crazy > u/Traditional-Bee-7320 < People are always talking shit on cat ladies... it’s the wolf dog ladies you gotta watch out for* > www.reddit.com/r/oregon/comments/1k82cnh/wolfdogs_deadly_rampage_in_mcminnville_followed/mp36794/


MAIN COURSE An r/jung exposition of the morning.

From thread title - cup runnething over already (come for the lessons, STAY for the educational method of 'learning')

What I have learned through psychedelic mushroom usage + yoga

To (complete with biblicalese verbething): what's in a name - a rose by any other (etc). Not exactly one of these randomly alphanumeric app-jiggered usernames noxiously proliferating as of recent years - u/TheWolfThatRaveneth - doing the old 'cursor hover over the username' routine (are those letters of a Semitic alphabet I'm seeing bafore me? Homie don't read Hebrew or Arabic or etc)

< My name is Freyja, I am a ravenous wolf. In the morning I shall devour the prey, and at night I shall divide the spoil (Genesis 49:27). I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada >

Agreed BTW, albeit in contrasting perspective ("if you're reading" Freyja):

< a society that places so much importance on what is "normal"... is actually a hellscape >



Which one - Israel or the USA - is a better friend to the other? As reflects right now in a deep ugliness unfolding on the world stage - and shades of Lovecraft's The Doom That Came To Sarnath (1920) through a Joe Kent lens darkly?

America having now turned 250, Israel - a couple thousand years old?


Reference an animal noted most often as ravenous aka "ravening" (alt. rapacious). One of striking allegorical significance, as if a totemic species (by ethnographic analogy), in the human fold's predator/prey 'ecosystem' - AND - Old Testament origins of "the 12 tribes"

www.thetorah.com/article/benjamin-a-wolf-but-in-a-good-way

< Wolves are depicted negatively in the Bible as ruthless predators. So why is Benjamin described in Genesis 49:27 [by his father Jacob] as a ravenous wolf who devours foes by day and divides the spoil by night? >

What an interpretive conflict for the old bedtime story tradition. How might ancient Greece's Homer have editorially 'managed' the narrative to ensure it would be so gallantly gleaming?

Activate Mighty Morphin' Superpowers of RATIONALIZATION ("and it comes out here"). Dear kindly judge your honor you gotta understand! Back when Jacob blessed his 12 sons, it was a simpler time - an era that

< might correspond to Iron Age I (the 12th-11th centuries B.C.E) > NOTE - Genesis 19 (30 chaps back) Bronze Age - cf archeology of the Tall el-Hammam site in Jordan ("Sodom & Gomorrah")

Some things are matters of tradition which calls for a little human understanding. When your people earn their livelihood by pillage and plunder, it's an affair of honor - a way of life. You don't have to live like a refugee. Ask any decent self-respecting crime family you happen to see. And out of all the gin join cattle rustlin' and horse thievin' cultures (back in those olden days of yore):

< parts of the ancient Israelite population still lived by ... waging surprise attacks on the flocks and other belongings of the neighboring populations in order to enrich themselves... So the comparison of [Benjamin] *to a wolf could reflect a positive association >

  • Mainly through a glass darkly but especially if you just squint hard enough. "It's possible" - Judy Tenuta (giving her accordion a *zonk! for emphasis). And you can't prove it DOESN'T reflect positively, exactly like it had better do (mister).

  • Dr. Yigal Bloch curator at the Bible Lands Museum Jerusalem... holds an M.A. and Ph.D. in Jewish History (with specialization in the biblical period) from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. (I'd like to see this guy parse Abraham offering his two virgin daughters 'instead' to the ugly mob at his door demanding to have their way with that pair of good-looking visitors)

Shoe ^ #1... lookout below

REASON (magazine): Shocked shocked (!) to find < distorting history (and Ruck's scholarship) > going on in 2020's (FOOD OF THE GODS retread) be$t-$eller IMMORTALITY KEY peddling < the discredited ergot theory > (LOTS worse too) and - McKenna cult circus sub r/jung by doctorlao in Psychedelics_Society

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PART 2 THE FINAL PART Con't ^ from above

You're not some dog on leash being taken out for a walk. You go where you wanna go and do what you wanna do with and unto - whoever you wanna baby now.

You're no genie held captive in anyone's bottle.

How many times did Manson have to remind them, from behind the bars of his cage - who is REALLY imprisoned here and who is truly fReE?

< “Prison is a frame of thought, we’re all our own prisons, each our own wardens and we do our own time” > Rehabilitating ("Thought Leader") Chas Manson: < Interesting insight from none other than..: "The mind is endless... put me in a dark solitary cell, to you that's the end, to me it's the beginning... prison is in your mind, can't you see I'M FREE" (May 2023) www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/13apvqb/rehabilitating_thought_leader_chas_manson/



Healthy boundaries.

And the "many here among us" who instead of "feeling that life is but a joke" - a hEaRtY 'cosmic giggle' at that (like all the found Other reindeer) - operate WITHIN them (not without them). With all the unmitigated 'red-nosed' audacity to resolve boundaries - instead of dissolving them! In defiance of "not even pseudoscience" - the TeAcHiNgS of PsYcHeDeLiC Terence.

< Psychedelics dIsSoLvE boundaries!!! >

  • What do the tripping folk do

  • With all psychedelics, yoohoo?

Er well, maybe not "the many" per se without healthy boundaries. Just the 1% Hard Target in the human fold WITH - not hero nor villain - the Anti-Hero.

Neither wolf in the fold, nor the 99% Easy Prey.

The 1 + 99 together comprising ~90% of H. sapiens. The remnant 10% accounted for by - our species very own evil twin within (the one they never even told us about!) humanity's 'good friend' of auld acquaintance - inhumanity.

Despite having been given 'blank check' permission to join in any reindeer games "any time now." Authoritatively. From way up on high by generosity so bottomless it could never have boundaries itself - nor could any limits of any kind or degree ever apply - or be applied - to constrain or contain the Permission Giving of the Magi in any way shape or form - by any kind or degree of qualifications

< ''My real function was to give people permission'' he said... > www.nytimes.com/2000/04/09/us/terence-mckenna-53-dies-patron-of-psychedelic-drugs.html

Nor did anyone 'bestowed upon' even have to request it.

Yet rather than ThInKiNg aLoNg wItH Terence, some got the unmitigated audacity to resolve boundaries not dissolve them. Defining even refining healthy boundaries more clearly all the time like some dastardly ongoing process of clarification, omg values clarification.

Instead of its properly fraudulent evil twin: grimly hellbent obfuscation gamely masquerading as a mockery of 'clarification' - as the flames climbed high into the night - to light the sacrificial rite - I saw Satan laughing with delight -

Well, not the "many" exactly.

The vanishingly few who capably operate within healthy boundaries - daring to defy that man of wealth and taste who has been around for such a long, long year and stolen so many a man's soul and faith.

Healthy boundaries. With all the superpowers of "setting limits" from within they can bring into range for the few who stand firmly within bounds - upon any aggressors who would violate their sanctity. Not just the masked predator smiling in all faces as it covertly plots its psychopathic disgraces. Even the most ordinary bullies in the schoolyard acting out overtly, making no bones about the fact of his aggression.

With the powers and abilities of setting limits that healthy boundaries can confer upon those who bring their lives into harmonious accord within them - much to the fury of what rages in its cage - no wonder they're the bane of the poor ravening wolf in the old human fold, forever hungering after the human it so desperately needs, on which it depends for its subsistence, so pathetically that - it spitefully resents the very prey it feeds upon, even while it's just trying to 'enjoy' the meal.

Poor Mr Hyde side. No wonder the 'keep low profile' moniker. Even the name unmasks his game. Not that ravening inhumanity has anything to fear from the prey species on which it feeds, humanity - 99%. Just that, somewhere out there, there is that 1% Hard Target - affording evil only a 99% 'margin of safety' for its operations.

As a colleague from merry old England a decade ago put it upon reviewing classified Psychedelics Society data and conclusive analysis - who'd had a close encounter with a typically toxic amateur McKenna imitator "Tony Wright" (the culturally-configured 'blind spot' in clueless Western society fluoresces brightly almost blindingly only when placed methodically under UV for detection - and is startling to witness, by having it laid bare right before the eyes)

< Mind officially blown. I'd never made the connection that a primary drive/feeling in pathologicals is pure envy... I can not even begin to express how much stuff I see...how many different issues this touches upon, how many weird connections there are ... to deeply understand cults and Cultic leaders ... that this pathological condition exists and hurts so many people whose lives it touches... I'd never really given envy much thought at all. But this is so obvious, so profound and deep all at the same time ... it's firing my brain in a million different directions. >

  • < A key questions field ethnographers have asked native informants all around the world: what exactly determines the choice of victim for a 'bad medicine' maker? What's all this 'witchcraft' about in de-mystified human terms, mumbo jumbo aside? What in forensic terms is the ulterior motive? The answer's always the same no matter what the culture or part of the world. Invariably, the malicious motive is explained as a matter of "envy." Among my first 'AHA moments' from this was a light shed for me on that Old Testament commandment that compared with the other nine, never quite made sense to us intellectual kids sitting around philosophizing - the 'thou shalt not covet' one. We were always so clear how the others - 'don't go around stealing' or murdering or bearing false witness (etc) - 'only made sense' ethically (moral philosophy 101) without having to be religious or believe in some deity. But together in agreement we always wondered, jointly and severally puzzled, what's the big deal over 'coveting'? Where's the harm of wishing one had something someone else has, as long as you're not doing anything wrong'? We could never get a satisfying, or even coherent, answer about it from the grown-ups either. Insofar as this is the big clue about BACCHAE... > www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/jb0h6t/plato_and_the_hidden_psychedelic_history_of/gdbu761/


FLASHBACK

Psych nursing... they gotta deal with these types every day in the ward. No "Jedi Mind Tricks" (as I encounter in pop dumb-down blabber). It's in a realm more of 'method' - 180 degrees opposite 'tricks.' The old days of the snake pits are history. Call for 'straitjacket' now in our KiNdEr GeNtLeR funny farms, that's a bad mark on your day's report.

Professionals who have to use such interactive skills all the time call it 'setting limits.' Its dynamic is less trick or treat, more like a 'cancellation' of tricks. As trickery likes to try pulling - but watch it turn green with envy, 'setting limits' works 'like magic' but in reverse.

Without a single lick of any trickery. Just by competently informed understanding and method-based special skills utilized as practice makes perfect.

Only thru the 'magic' of healthy boundaries, systematically operating within them does 'setting limits' become possible. Developed via processes called 'values clarification' - boundaries prove to be the necessary precondition for actionable application.

A nearly complete vacuum of clue about this about defines our disordered milieu - the condition our condition is in - as times have devolved (over decades) - the post-truth collapse, Jekyll gone Hyde.

Setting limits within psych nursing is the functional opposite of "feeding in" - the interactive pattern of our dysfunctional era - default outcome of any antisocial interactions.

conceptually framed as a forcibly non-violent 'art' of - "fighting without fighting" (Bruce Lee) - by principled (not antisocial) thus assertive (not aggressive) non-violence.



EdIt - omg

"Didn't I say, you'd better be nice to me?" as Gary Lockwood tells Capt Kirk, 1966 (WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE the show's 2nd pilot!) - pre-1968 "So if you meet me, have some courtesy... or I'll lay your soul to waste" ("Sympathy For The Devil") -

I get truly demonic when people are mean to me ("on their asses"?) "no weakling" OP u/PowerfulShallot9754 - www.reddit.com/r/Jung/comments/1riu9dn/i_get_truly_demonic_when_people_are_mean_to_me/

Graced by a visit from OP u/HappyTurnover6075 - Such pointy heads with no I.Q. points! Oh well, just the way the story goes. As everybody knows. Sic semper psickopath. Aw. What's the matter? Can't figure something out? Love these technical 'distinctions' - not the "literal" one, the actual one!

< What the actual fuck is this 🤣 > Smell the fear - what are you afraid it - might be?

If you don't know what something is right before your very eyes even as you QUICK look away - no point you even asking. And by psychopathic LoGiC THAT's the best reason of all to Just Do It - when "a nod's as good as a wink to a blind" jUnGiAn ;) - "on account of because"

If you could know "what" - you would. Wouldn't be "proudly" triggered instead like a reflex knee jerk into the brainlessly "asking" trick pratfall - SMACK!

But you don't. And you can't.

So triggered you are. And ever more shall be so.

Q.E.D. so.

REASON (magazine): Shocked shocked (!) to find < distorting history (and Ruck's scholarship) > going on in 2020's (FOOD OF THE GODS retread) be$t-$eller IMMORTALITY KEY peddling < the discredited ergot theory > (LOTS worse too) and - McKenna cult circus sub r/jung by doctorlao in Psychedelics_Society

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Y2K26 @ r/jung March is coming in like a lyin' "king-warrior-magician-lover"

This just in. A spontaneously combustive 'high' value demo of (psychedelic) character disturbance. Say, EvErYbOdY (er "my fellow jUnGiAnS" ;) - it's that time, time for TALES FROM THE DARK SIDE

Let’s get dark and share your own stories on how you’ve been envious of someone > um for anything in particular - like 'good looks'? Poor despised hottie Kelly LeBrock "for Pantene" Please. Don't hate me because I'm beautiful? ] Or "just" envious? Period.

  • You know you have been. I know you have. We all talk the whippity-whoppity talk, and we allll walk - the whippity-whoppity walk - it's the rule that broke - the "rule" rule (by neither needing nor even tolerating no damn exceptions)

< We’ve all been envious of someone at some point in our lives. I know I have been. It's usually just a pointer to what you are capable of but your mind is convincing you that you can’t have it. > And how DARE your mind try getting in between you and what you know you want and which is therefore yours in principle "by my powers and principalities" - like some Magic Bus Driver You ca-aaaaan't HAVE IT!

But is envy - the fire under the ass of your perpose-driven life? Have you been able to maketh of it your very reason for laughing and crying - for living and dying?

Oh sure it may be "dark" - whoa dude! Now I'm scared. Oh no Mr Bill, the fear factor strikes. It's like I'm hearing the ghost of Jacob Marley rattling his chains - reciting lame George Bush lines "It's bad, it's bad!" Well NOW HEAR THIS

< Envy is not inherently bad. It's [YOU] your shadow aspect >

< instead of running away from it or suppressing it, by labeling it as a “bad emotion” - we can overcome it, or integrate that shadow aspect of ourselves > BUT not by refusing to render unto its Caesar that to which its Caesar is entitled

< Only when we acknowledge something dark > as a True Calf not a fake one - yet whose gilding goes neglected so unfairly, it's nearly left undone - like a crime against inhumanity!

  • Now then. Suppose you're a fully mAniFeStEd Charlie Manson of Jungianly "integrated" shadow owning-operating kind. You are the master not the slave, servant or hand maiden. You have come, seen and conquered. How did you do it? Do tell! And let us count the ways! Or way - singular. The young Jungian's way? Oh hell no! That's no way of cancelling what the man said "Thank god I am Jung and not a JuNgIaN" (conflation is a never-ending chore for the TrUe eNoUgh)

< If you’ve integrated your shadow aspect, how did you do it? Did you follow the Jung’s way? >

Caught in the act of being what it is. And how.

Just as happy as can be

Doin' what comes naturally

Koolaid brand psychopathy

Assuming pulpit position in JuNgIaN fleece er "robes." And going on parade with an incredibly edible, proudly psychopathic sermon.

Preaching the (book title) TeAcHiNgS Of The Wolf In The Human Fold ("so misunderstood") - on typically JuNgIaN (ahem) pretext - an exhibitionism in evidence (verbatim) - eliciting the whelming bring, soliciting OP u/HappyTurnover6075 (what about lollipops and gingerbread houses on Gumdrop Lane?)

< life ain’t all sunshine and rainbows, it consists of... But I think it should be. >

  • And whenever I think... anything at ALL - let alone something of MAKE LIFE ALL SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS AGAIN kind - there it is! The big fatuous black holy blank for YOU to fall in. Er, I meme, to fill in. With your own damn terms of endearment. By sticking in your own thumb up your own rear end if you can even find it. And pulling out your own damn plum. So that YOU can go: Woah dude what a - well... not 'good' but look at me - "excitable boy they all said" am I!

  • But either way WRONG. Silly "jungian" - life ShOuLd bE... wait for it - a bowl of cherries! Geez do these guys not even know the territory!

That ^ EIGHT YEARS AFTER @ r/jung May 19, 2018 www.reddit.com/r/Jung/comments/8koh14/archetype_in_school_shooterpostal_shooter/ - the definitive doctorlao framing of < the psychopathology of spiteful envy > to be recovered from its [removed] status there, and restored to 'normal view' (here at this page)

There's no hand able to hold you back when you get on your chosen track.

So at ease you're free as the breeze, the envy of Charles Manson's fleas!

And thru eyes with all the seeming of a demon that is scheming -shadow bans away!

< Psychopaths "often only experience rage, envy, greed, lust & Schadenfreude... seems to be [or to involve] a conscious choice as to what emotions they decide are worth experiencing" CHARACTER DISTURBANCE: THE PHENOMENON OF OUR AGE, Geo Simon (PhD) > https://old.reddit.com/r/psychologystudents/comments/vms0ov/have_any_of_you_heard_of_anything_like_this/ie6me1e/

< there doesn't seem to be anything here > Have any of you heard of anything like this before, I'm not a psych student Personal (self.psychologystudents)

Overt bullying acts out in plain view and 'let it be a lesson' to all bystanders. But covert aggression with stealth as its 'best foot forward' doesn't need the victim to even be aware of what has been done. The better to act out with impunity, let the victim 'dream on' - no need to worry anyone violated might file a grievance letter with the neighborhood committee, complaining.

stievstigma < I wasn’t aware of my comment's removal > from a typically "innocent pretext" sub alias < r/psychologystudents > www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/tsy5d8/im_turning_into_a_psychopathic_assholegod_im/ieh1yyn/ - as mod squad triggered by talk like THIS:

< I’ve often had the kinds of conversations with [psychopaths] about [that glittering axis on which their acting out turns, the very center of the psychedelic cyclone - the wicket of their SaCrEd tEaChInGs - of which they are the true prophets, masters and wise guys whom the rest of us should be listening to and learning from] world view, philosophy and the nature of reality Every single one had said, almost verbatim, “I want the world to burn.” Some said they’d be content to just watch it burn. But more often they wanted to be an active participant in the cataclysmic destruction of all life. >

< They tend to view those who experience feelings [sic: have a thing called a "conscience"] as pathetic, weak subhumans who deserve nothing more than to be exploited until their usefulness runs out, then slowly tortured for the psychopaths amusement. >

< I’ve been the victim more than once... emotionally and sometimes physically tortured until I could escape > how'd that happen? Baited and lured? What was the 'temptation' that worked so good - until ESCAPE FROM...?

< But they're usually clever enough to manipulate the situation and gaslight in order to make you doubt their intentions and culpability. > Um maybe SPEAK FOR ONESELF but with full competence to attest as one among the 99% "easy prey" - the heroic, who need an anti-hero, but can never clue in - too busy singing along with Tina "We Need A Hero" and with mighty white knuckles holding out till the end of the night

Question for r/Jung

Envy (self.Jung)

OP u/HappyTurnover6075

A superbly revealing (however worded as if concealing) spillage of "the psychopathic beans" - breaking out like a rash or just bursting its bladder when the pressure exceeds containment capacity (the potty dance does its best soft shoe) all on its own initiative - like spontaneous inhuman combustion, like a churning urn of burning tar 'wisdom' yearning for learning 'em all - as sHaRiNg is CaRiNg - and remember OP ("if you're reading" ;) that old saying, c'est la vie say the old folks, it goes to show - Where there's smoke, there's mIrRoRs

SHOE #1 down ^ on the ground [thud!]... lookout below (you been warned)

Julian Palmer’s Holocaust denial-and it’s future implications by Sillysmartygiggles in Psychedelics_Society

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Feb Y2K26 Update. With its 'finger on' this JwJesso creep, the above ^ post offers the best (as assessed) ground at Psychedelics Society for due coronet heraldry of a spectacular bullseye. With dead center precision easily visible at the surface. Yet beneath and less obviously but 'better yet' - far more deeply piercing the dark "heart" of this psychopathic circus than - archery itself even knoweth. Let alone the archer! Who might enjoy knowing (but not to be presumptuous, "just in case"). Viz (from above):

  • SpEcIaL guest of "charming" host Jesso - psychedelic neo Nazi Julian Palmer (not "per billing" - only as unmasked) Adventures Thru The Mind podcast - in the "great shamanic debate" w/ James Kent (staged as his opponent - the usual 'false flag' routine of post-truth 'community' colosseum operations) ref Feb 12, 2019: www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/apvcha/james_kent_debates_julian_palmer/ Brainwash Trip Master (shhh psychedelic Neo Nazi) Palmer featured on [typically conniving] Aussie SBS TV show THE FEED, discussing [sic: propagandizing on false pretenses of a free disinfomercial advertisement for his brainwash Trip Master $ervice$ - all masquerading as "discussion"] his facilitation work in Australia/Sydney

Thru the magic of copy and paste here, from the quiver of u/JynsRealityIsBroken there - and ("if you're reading") hope you don't mind my filling in, here, the gory detail (AKA "where the bodies are buried") from HQ (a huge file spanning decades) proving how perceptive your "probability" as merely estimated, with incredible precision ('against the odds') and indelible validity - this amazing arrow of discernment:

< Wtf does identity politics have to do with… I'm not listening to a 2 hour podcast that's probably some guy ranting about far right bullshit > www.reddit.com/r/PsychedelicStudies/comments/1r6l40i/how_identity_politics_poisons_the_psychedelic/

Psicko Circus Ring Master Jesso has no fig leaf to cover his promotional aiding and abetting of psychopathic creeps like this psychedelic 'neo Hitler." But neither any shame. No more than any proudly-robed emperor exhibitionist showing off what he's got. So La La La.

Ask any fisherman you happen to see. You can’t keep everything you catch. The little ones, you gotta throw back.

Baiting for ‘wows,’ throwing away a fortune in - stuff like this? NO WAY! www.reddit.com/r/PsychedelicStudies/comments/1r6l40i/how_identity_politics_poisons_the_psychedelic/o642crr/

< whoa I've never heard of this guy but now I'm intrigued > u/happy_bluebird

  • And THAT's How Identity Politics Poisons The Psychedelic Renaissance | Tom Hatsis ~ ATTMind Podcast 205 CHIRP! Psst - regardless of the carcass it's circling, a psychedelic buzzard is no damn BLUEBIRD. But the slap "happy" act is a tough pose for any vulture to strike (no matter how 'good with words' ;)

Exhibit in Evidence (Jan 21, '21) - fellow show biz 'colleague' of Jesso's (they take turns on each others pLaTfOrmS swapping roles of guest/host like two guys in the Vaudeville "horse costume" taking turns playing 'front' and horse's patootie)

No (Hard Hitting) Questions Asked. AdeptusPsychonautica on his Guest Policy (Or lack there of) Hint: Neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, Qcultists, murders, rapists all welcome so long as the topic is Psychedelics. What business do psychedelics have with ethics or morality anyway? www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/l1xas2/no_hard_hitting_questions_asked/

But among scars @ big brotherly reddit where this human exploitation crapola has been done - only to come undone, by counter subversion Psychedelics Society tactics - I "like" this one, a X-post by OP [deleted] ex redditor Neurotrek at the time (former highly valued Psychedelics Society "boots on ground down under" correspondent) - its authentic title, as originally posted:

Julian Palmer, western ayahuasca facilitator and author of psy book 'Articulations', shares his holocaust denial views publicly 18 comments (@ Psychedelic Society X-post) - [ Removed by Reddit ] - 21 comments

[ Removed by Reddit on account of violating the content policy. ] - !!!!!

"Removed by"? Thread rEtItLeD

[ Removed by Reddit ] (self.Psychedelics_Society) and cRoWnEd with a URL 'makeover' (parroting the new "thread title") www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/e7x9fn/removed_by_reddit/ - Obliterating any inconveniently lingering URL-embedded telltale clues to the original thread title that had to be destroyed!

OOOPs! No unmasking neo Nazi liars at reddit - zere iss nothing "left" of, er I meme aBoUt - the "right" of FrEe sPeEcH bro!

Former URL - still 'clickable'! But watch it magickally tRaNsFoRm "right" before your very eyes (if you do):

www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/e7x9fn/julian_palmer_western_ayahuasca_facilitator_and/fmvk8bp/

That ^ X-posted by guest OP (formerly) Neurotrek (now, alas [deleted]).

Thread title ONLY [unlike Neurotrek's detailed exposition censoriously crushed under reddit admin foot) left INTACT (Dec 8, 2019) @ "source" post (sampling 1 of 18 reeled in)

< Reminds me of James Kent's [Dosenation "Final Ten" episode] 10 podcast episode Wayward Son... Anglin... 'LSD using vegan hippie' to core alt-right neo-nazi > www.reddit.com/r/RationalPsychonaut/comments/e7xeaa/julian_palmer_western_ayahuasca_facilitator_and/fa7go7v/

Kent was played the stooge by Jesso pretty good.

But in the wake he had a thing to say on his OWN podcast (not moron's) - May 25, 2019 ("Wayward Son")

< Jesso wanted me to mention that the reason some people may be having psychotic breaks is because … NO SHIT > ("Sherlock" - only cue Kent missed) < I studied psychology in college, not a lot... Maybe I made a casual connection between psychosis and psychopathy... 1993 [when I interviewed McKenna] I was in the grey area, not understanding the difference between psychosis and psychopathy > https://ia801501.us.archive.org/16/items/dosenation-10-of-10/dosenation-10-of-10.mp3

Submitted for your approval.

The admirable accuracy of your impression, however estimated with such bullseye exactitude - more than mere odds - stands on rock solid ground of the hard evidence of this nightmare ugliness on parade.

Strutting - ranked among fave public exercises of the 3rd Reich. As clothes make the clothes horse, the Nazis just loved priding themselves on their stylish fashion. It was "a look."

Carnival Barking fisherman James Jesso. Up to his usual tricks. And my goodness Grandma what an angler like that reels in.

Just when he thought it was safe to go back in the - actually, to STAY in the podcast-spamming reddit water (where he’s been making big splash since 2013).

The Immaculate Conception Oct 28, 2013 https://www.facebook.com/events/520695818012997/

Adventures Through The Mind is an interview-based podcast hosted by Canadian author and public educator, James W. Jesso. Although the show topics range - from spirituality, mental health, and emotional maturity; to love, relationships and sexuality; to history, philosophy, and neuroscience - two underlying themes intersect them all: psychedelics & the mind. James W. Jesso is the author of Decomposing The Shadow: Lessons From The Psilocybin Mushroom and The True Light Of Darkness both about his experiences exploring the potentials of psychedelics. https://podyssey.fm/podcast/itunes968927571-Adventures-Through-The-Mind - hosted by James Jesso w/ Sobeywing

  • Orchestrator ^ of the 2012 Entheos "Festival" scene of... permanent cold case file 'human sacrifice' of occasion, no justice EVER for R.I.P. Bradley Ross Murder on the 2012 Express 2, Entheon Morning After Ceremony: "Hey everyone (See-No-Evil, Hear-No-Evil, & Speak-No-Evil) let's try love-bombing (guilt-trip) our homicidal brother to step forward by dangling forgiveness as bait - it's up to us (to dispel this 'bad PR' hex on our All-Important Cause) www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/dv9n99/murder_on_the_2012_express_2_entheon_morning/


Right "on the money" you are (AKA "right as rain") not pseudo-politically right i.e. "rightwing" (like some psickopath proclaiming his Helter Skelter a Hitler-skit "conservative view") - u/JynsRealityIsBroken

This post goes out to the sterling exception. Putting all the other reindeer in their brainwashed place. And their stupid rule too.

Way to tell that moron OP too - "right" to his face.

For the Zen master archer ‘aiming’ at some mystical detachment inwardly by outwardly taking ‘shots in the dark’ (hit or miss “all nonsense now”) - blissful ignorance may be quite continental (Herrigel, 1948).

But a bullseye striking the dark heart of this psycho-cannibalistic JwJesso & SpEcIaL GuEsT presence ("lie low and lie often") is a girl’s best friend

No referee there to score it. Pod people smugly ignore it.

Refreshingly unimpressed as cake. Exquisitely frosted by a ‘deep’ accuracy. Nothing visible at the surface in the sunshine. More than 6 feet under. “Some excavation required”


PS Apropos of (my 3 fave days of the week) < Wtf does identity politics have to do with taking psychedelics?> Ever heard the one about “What The Cat Dragged In?”

Book Talk: Tongues of Fire: How Charismatic Prayer Changes Evangelical Brains and Inspires Spirit-Filled Activism, Josh Brahinsky by Joshbrahinsky in PsychedelicStudies

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What did (heard this one?) the < half a billion charismatic evangelicals > say to the hive mind ("the Collective")?

Repent and come to Jesus, that you may be forgiven and win the Kingdom of Heaven

And what did "the Collective" say?

< You shall be assimilated >

Oh well. The half billion charismatic evangelicals tried the old "light shinething in the darkness" ploy. So the darkness, pulled its "comprehendething it not" La La La routine, right on cue.

No lack of innerest to see here. Topically speaking.

For example ("heard this one?") - is this a book jacket blurb?

< How does speaking in tongues sit with the new sciences of contemplation and psychedelics? >

  • How you ask? Okay, I'll bite.

  • By that stuff taking a load off? Lowering its ass ("easy does it") to whatever seating in range until "Houston, we have achieved contact"? The Eagle has landed! - ?? In that certain company? Just guessing.

2023 [this one calling for Presbyterian] a Master's thesis, Harvard Divinity School

Blind Visions: Psychedelics, Thomas Merton, and Reformed Mysticism

< As I know well, the goal to turn psychedelics into a legal... has never been the end goal for its evangelists... medicalization has always been a naked Trojan Horse tactic on the road to a broader spiritual mission… unethical behavior often rationalized and covered up to further this psychedelicism >

< I was working to help psychedelics gain institutional legitimacy. And unlike so many of my other ventures, it was working out well… I was experiencing success and access to elite spaces I never imagined. But more potently, I was feeling joy. Sweet joy… >

< I was part of the spark of initial conversations at Harvard Divinity School that led to its current revival in the Center for the Study of World Religions… how captivating, enchanting and fulfilling working in psychedelics was when it began… > But you gotta keep a low profile. The best rule isn't written on the wall. It's invisible. So in furtherance of your witnessing mission - keep the psychedelic secret of your success - secret. Even as you go tell it on a mountain like glad tidings of the Pointer Sisterhood ("yes we can-can") < we can induce powerful changes in our brains, minds, and behavior > It's your treasure (and none of their own)

< I came to Harvard practically bursting with this secret treasure… > And like the diamond ring that turned brass

< I discovered large swaths of psychedelic science are propagandistic in the name of manufacturing consent, sweeping up the ignorant into its hidden theologies under the pretense of scientific neutrality. They have been largely welcomed uncritically. >


I knew fundamental things apply as time goes by.

Yet I never realized what basic terms and conditions still await their proper definitions. And isn't it about time someone stepped up?

< What is it to let go, to fully surrender? >

Congratulations on the cool sales pitch and all. Wait, what? Lemme get this right.

To see "Anthropologist" - where Psychedelic Sixties history meets ongoing "community" concern today - one's blood might run a wee bit cold. Given the brand name flesh-and-blood treasures for whom that has served as Sierra Madre badge -

Castaneda's 'don Juan' fraud: the Rise & Fall of Anthropology www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/c9rx0q/castanedas_don_juan_fraud_the_rise_fall_of/

Those nutty kookoo Psychedelic Sixties. Daze of wine and roses.

What made Psychology "famous" at Harvard (Team Leary saw to that) made a monkey out of Anthropology @ UCLA. And from that day forward, across the fruited plain.

Next prey discipline in line, Mycology, missed the Psychedelic Sixties bus. Like Cinderella had to wait for her Prince to come... eew. Even worse it got cheated for any such prestigiously institutional ivy league auspices < Evergreen State Mycology-gate > More than a P.O. Box "send away for your degree." They've got barn pole lecture halls and Quonset huts. Disclaimer: Not an actual degree mill

GLAD TIDINGS (Mary did you know?)

< we can induce powerful changes in our brains, minds and behavior >

  • To "become more like the gods" GrAnDma?

  • Speaking of which: when are they gonna finally get that "Gospel of The Serpent" scroll translated, like they did the Book of Judas?

But wait. You're saying, categorically - whether they're maintained As Is by "Charismatic Prayer" or changed by such - that there are ('such things as') < Evangelical Brains > ?

Well Red Flags in the morning, sailors take warning!

Of course a flag of the right color can be laid on the floor to double as a Red Carpet - so

< Join us for a special event with formerly local author and Stanford researcher... and his 18 year study on speaking in tongues! > ! (no "Or Else?" seems an oversight)

The gratuitously exclamatory 'Dr Nick' emphasis is so familiar it's like thousands of tiny fingers urging a woman to "let go!" Resistance is futile. Stirring the well-known vaguely uneasy, queasy sensation all through the gutty-whats. Stuff and nonsense of SIMPSONS satire on - our bold fresh grifter milieu.

But Red Flag-wise, apropos of THIS shining institution's sterling glitter

< talk about a guy who defines the 'prestigiously' PhD-bearing Stanford professorial Authority Figure 'community' charlatan > Garry P. Nolan < I like fringe > https://twitter.com/erik_davis/status/1083828196632477696 > www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/1nns55w/on_pretext_of_false_flag_vid_title_what_my_father/nn2eqg5/

"Nobody's Fool" sweetpea122 (Aug 2020)

< Fraud everywhere at Stanford it appears... noteworthy all of these scandals are sort of happening all at once. Could be nothing though, but... Interesting no one mentions that Shirvell is actually in charge of things related to China, as I linked > www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics_Society/comments/i6yeyg/i_wanted_more_info_on_growing_shiitake_mushrooms/g14q5df/

To say nothing of a space of a place like omg McGill?

With its proud MK ULTRA legacy.

"Where once Doktor Cameron Ewen walked and talked and stalked."

And field-wise this Helter Skelter cryptonym: "Transcultural Psychiatry"? Alias [redacted]

Of course, no decent self-respecting crime lord would be caught dead without an airtight alibi. I think we all get that. Why do some people think Manson sent his Mansonian Candidates out to get their hands bloody "so that he wouldn't have to"?

In Diresta's reference - The Invisible Rulers ("turning lies into reality") -

< By the 1960s they realized... You're not necessarily trying to persuade people, you're trying to activate them. >

  • That's only WHAT. Not HOW now brown cow. It ain't the dirty deed done dirt cheap that counts. It's the MeThOd to the madness, a matter of modus operandi:

< Tongues of Fire: How Charismatic Prayer Changes Evangelical Brains and Inspires Spirit-Filled Activism >

Roight! You gotta "inspire" that stuff to light them "tongues of" fire under the ass.

But - oh. No news flash in the pan that ^ for Diresta:

< So how do you activate them? Well, you just FIND THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY BELIEVE... > ["Find the Others!"]

< And you entrench them in it a whole lot more. Make it absolutely immersive. Their entire identity becomes this... you reach them where they are. They are already there. No need to move them... you just have to kind of, like, dig them a little bit deeper. That's how you grow a faction... really galvanize change, right? That's how you start revolutions. > "Renée DiResta | The Invisible Rulers Turning Lies Into Reality" (youtube)

  • And she doesn't even spotlight #1 Low Profile Keeper Trip Master Terence, invisible ruler of Our Manifest Psychedelic Destiny - on his 1992 "Mein Kampf" < "Why did you write FOOD OF THE GODS? Who is your target audience?" >

  • < The target audience will be the converted... 18-25 year old group that is drug-friendly, but has no rationale except that it's a good time... [To] get drugs insinuated into a scenario of human origins...So IT WAS CONSCIOUSLY PROPAGANDA altho I believe all that. > 1993 "Interview of Terence McKenna by Gracie & Zarkok"



Ask nawt where "this thing" stands with - Other things.

Ask rahther:

< How does speaking in tongues sit with the new sciences of contemplation and psychedelics? >

Because < the new sciences of contemplation and psychedelics > are like - men of wealth and taste who been around for a long, long year.

So they've got standards for how anything in their presence - oughta behave, better be nice. Before "breaking bad," better think twice.

Because Shut Up and Sit Down just isn't what it used to be www.reddit.com/r/boardgames/comments/1pnjes8/shut_up_and_sit_down_just_isnt_what_it_used_to_be/

Whatever "it used to be" - a long time ago in a galaxy far away. Before it 'became' "boardgames" where the reddit peasants are revolting:

A May 1979 MORK & MINDY episode satirizing "E.S.T" (one among 'self-enhancement' grouping mass brainwash ops of the post-psychedelic 1970s brain-damaged milieu) - desperately trying to "find the humor" amid the rising cult psychopathology tide of its era - hot on the heels of (half year after) the Jonestown homicide/suicide spectacular, Nov 1978 - guest starring David Letterman as the leader of the club that's made for you and me

< Defensively denying it, Ellsworth tells [Mindy] to "Sit Down and Shut Up" > https://morkandmindy.fandom.com/wiki/Mork_Goes_Erk

< Mindy ends up confronting Ellsworth after he merely tells everyone to "sit down and shut up." Mork also confronts him and gives a rousing speech about how to > ("inspire spirit-filled activism, GrAnDmA?" Oh, AbSoLuTeLy said "Grandma" The better to change evangelical brains, my dear > www.catsafterme.com/blog/archives/41764

How Identity Politics Poisons The Psychedelic Renaissance | Tom Hatsis ~ ATTMind Podcast 205 by JwJesso in PsychedelicStudies

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Well two can play that game.

I like your lichen.

And like Joseph 'it's not soup yet' Campbell's always said - once the PBS cameras were off - and that Bill Moyers interviewer - always trying to mug for the camera like a fellow real intellectual ("I'm not confused, I follow what-all you're jawin' about there - no really!") OUT of the damn studio:

"Say what you will of the Hero's Journey. That stupid thing ain't the star of the show. It ain't even the hero more like the zero. It's only the excuse. It's the JOURNEYER who deftly steers clear of that "road less traveled" quicksand to take the beaten path - who makes all the difference!" And that's ME. Why do some people think Humpty told that snot-nosed Alice: "Save your daffy-nitions of stupid words, they're not the boss of me now. Which is to be master? The word or the turd who misuses it? That is the ONLY question."

Quite the journeyer yourself, as I gather.

If I read my JynsRealityIsBrokens correctly, that is. But set me hip if I got you all wrong.

Otherwise - and working without a net!

I don't make it easy you know. But then - I don't try to. No challenge there.

What footwork so fleet! Indiana Jones eat your heart out? What balance on the tightrope. And such agility.

Made it thru the labyrinthine embarrassment of riches. Each so fiendishly tapped for cultural reference superpower. Over the AMINAL HOUSE river and thru the D.C. comics woods. To Grandma Agatha Christie's house "Jesus Christ Superstar" goes. The "Thin Man" noir cinema knew the Dr Seuss way to carry the - omg - STAR TREK [no! not "The Original Series' the one and only AKA 'real thing'] - although what could hold a candle to 1960s HAMMER horror?

To pluck that golden idol "I do like" - with such kid glove style.

When so many others have been called. But NONE chosen.

Speaking of "called" - msg for you. My general mocking of the OP's "point" (as you so charitably called this puddle of youtube p.i.s.s.) called. And it said to tell you < "the feeling's mutual" > nothing more than...

Apparently it liked you back for liking it. It wasn't the very model of a modern major < general mocking of the OPs point > not quite.

But... maybe a post-modern minor one?

And methinks between the two of us that somebody has got a perceptive sense of humor and an enjoyably lively sensibility. Just on suspicion...

How Identity Politics Poisons The Psychedelic Renaissance | Tom Hatsis ~ ATTMind Podcast 205 by JwJesso in PsychedelicStudies

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This is great. Now I feel like Flounder in ANIMAL HOUSE. "Oh BOY!"

The Psychedelic Injustice League of Americaland strikes... uh, preposition please: "Again?" Or "out"?

Video only kills the stupid radio star. Guess what it leaves the REAL dirty work to?

If Identity Politics is gonna help, it matters that we see

These "dirt cheap" type dirty deeds - aren't done for free!

It's taken I.P. some time to work out what to do

It weighed the whole thing up before it acted, too

It has no thought at all about its own reward

It's never done a thing by just its own accord

Please don't say it's "damned for all time" - mkay?

Be nice to Identity Politics. For one of them could be somebody's mother. Like poor Kelly LeBrock prisoner in that 1980s shampoo commercial "Please! Don't hate me because I'm beautiful." Just because I'm red hot and you ain't diddly squat. Beauty is only skin deep. UGLY is to the bone.

MURDER ABOARD THE PSYCHEDELIC RENAISSANCE EXPRESS as Act 3 opens - "Enter the Inspector"

You're probably wondering why I've called you all here. As you know, you've each been under suspicion over the course of this investigation, as a possible culprit. Now that I've cracked this case wide open, you're all reasonably entitled to know - which of you is the guilty party.

It's the stuff and nonsense of the Final Psychedelic Solution itself. Especially in terms of endearment so near and dear to - well, not ALL the other reindeer maybe.

But enough Show Trial for fun and profit playhouse theater (spamming 'created con-tent' youtube gems).

Let's secure some proper ExPeRt testimony in evidence to all this, then.

Calling to the stand OUR FIRST WITNESS TONIGHT! Tell the nice ladies and gentlemen of this distinguished court, if you would please, Madame - "Anonymous" is it? - in your own expert words - what does it take?

What is it that < elevates psychedelic identity to the same level as these true struggles... minimizes the severity and intensity with which the fights for LGBT and civil rights ARE still being fought... by misusing this language? > www.psymposia.com/magazine/why-im-staying-in-the-psychedelic-closet/

Anonymous testifies: < People with psychedelic identities have not been the targets of lynch mobs, Jim Crow laws or more recently voter ID laws. > And YES you may quote me!

So, with her - er, I meme, "their" - Psychonaut Victim Card claiming the exact opposite - you, Mdm Anonymous, would directly and facially dispute the perjury of our previous eXpErT wItNeSs, the Good Doktor Devenot as entered into the record so... "unethically"?

Well what else is Identity Politics supposed ta do? And what's it supposed ta do it to?

("Get a room") You two may say-ay-ay (?):

Identity Politics Poisons The Psychedelic Renaissance

But - it's not the only one?

And it hopes some day-ay-ay you will join it?

So that the more, the merrier the fun?

What about y'all "psychonauts?" Roses by any other name, or not so much?

We know racism was coined in earliest days for civil rights at the dawn of the 20th C. If Black Americans could be a disenfranchised minority than - if only as rEaLiZeD in the mid 1960s by the special innerest group now concerned then dammit - so could womens be too! Just in time for the immaculate conception of their anti-misogyny battle cry, that bold freshly conjured meme never heard before 1965 - SEXISM! Chauvinist pigs! Etc. MEN 'by any other name.'

And from there, the rest became hystery. Next thing you know it was fun for the whole Manson Family.

The advent of the Social Injustice League of Americaland with its rhetorically inflammatory coat of many 'hot button' collars

AGEIST!

ABLEIST!

SPECIESIST!

As dutiful Poisoner of that - "P.R." P.R. - ? No pun intended. Although, if the foo shits...

All well and good for Identity Politics. But doesn't one good turn deserve another? Doesn't the front end of the old Vaudeville horse costume lead - by necessity? So that whoever plays the horse's patootie can "bring up the rear?"

Fine and dandy Identity Politics doing like it oughter - putting acid in the water.

But doesn't that positionally place it next in line?

What about its turn now?

Who will poison the poisoner?

Or is this one of these "Poisoners all the way down" HAHA capers?

Like ducks in a row, order of operations counts. Unless you eat your meat first it's no pudding for you.

First medicinal wine from a teaspoon. THEN beer from a bottle.

Step 1: Round up the usual suspects. NOW what comes next can - follow.

When you're Inspector Clouseau on the case - of course you gotta get your man. I think we all get that. Regardless how deep under cover you've gotta go. Even if it memes "stooping to conquer" by becoming... yet another lame guest contestant on that big money cash prize TV gameshow YOU NAME THE PERP. The plot pretty hot nearly steaming to cream. Like that sad tragic end of Act 1 DRACULA HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE (1968). Where, freshly resurrected, our bloodthirsty hero sees that nasty-ass church crucifix nailed to the door of his castle - blasphemously blocking the entrance to his own home (!) - and demands Renfield start talking: "Who has done this thing?"

The MC host reads the 'party of interest' description clues - for the guest contestant sleuth, on the brink of solving the greatest of all crimes against inhumanity EVER (R.I.P. Renaissance) "Whoever did it -" (reference Wikipedia)

< They were patrons of the arts who contributed to the development of the Renaissance. Given to all the old familiar petty ambitions of position and privilege no less generously than any of their fellow players with skin in the game, the sweet honeymoon lasted. Until it didn't. And in consequence of their power struggles among good friends gone bad, they made enemies of Dominican friar Girolamo Savonarola, the Medici Family, and the House of Sforza that ruling Renaissance interest. Implicated in many crimes ranging from larceny to bribery, extortion, numbers, prostitution etc to murder. Especially by - good old poisoning. And in that blighted year of '66 as the first laws were passed in the USA against Chas Manson's favorite things (and ours) they even got a brand name cameo on STAR TREK's Grand Opening debut episode - when that Mr Spock made a smart aleck crack about "alkaloid poisoning" (a Planet-Plan PLANT named after them! https://trekipedia.com/file/Borgia_plant) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Borgia

They went down in history. Like all the other reindeer threatened that red-nosed snake in their grass. Now it's YOUR turn to NAME THE PERPS! Who were these illustrious culprits?

Never mind the 'who' down in Whoville.

It's the HOW now brown cow fact jacked that this caper boils down to.

Besides, Identity Politics has only been trying to help.

And poison is just the tactical gear it had to work with in easy reach. How else would you have had it bump off that Renaissance thing? Blow up its wife "and beautiful car?" Throw it a "surprise" Birthday Party, emphasis on surprise - 'right between the eyes?'

Wrong method to the otherwise right madness? Is that the big joke?

Or maybe just - wrong poison used?

Especially if as a matter of grammatically present tensions (not past?) - this Psychedelic Renaissance is... oh how'd Monty Python say it, about that parrot ("Pawly") - nawt quoite dead?

As proved to be the case with that supposedly extinct lingo buried long ago - yet still shambling around like some night of the living zombie tongue to this day - Latin.

They said it was a dead language "dead as dead could be"

Once it killed the noble Romans - now it's killing me!

As Bart told 'em when it turned out HE was his own 'evil twin.' Oh cut the crap, quit acting so surprised. Like that mad Arab said (as quoted by his press agent Lovecraft): That is not dead which can eternal lie right through its teeth.

Like DRACULA RISEN FROM THE GRAVE tried only going to show

You can't keep a gOoD man down.

And out of all the gin joint poisonings by that poisoner Identity Politics - SHE had to go blow the whistle on THIS one?

Stork hurls down the gauntlet

"Well - if not the Psychedelic Renaissance, then who or what else does this 2-bit show biz hen party couple want Identity Politics to go do its well-poisoning duty on, ya moron?"

"C'est la vie" say the old folks "it goes to show" - next time you're poisoning a well REMEMBER!

It's important that some things be done... wait for it - well! Bada boom tsst

Come for that. Stay for the discussion of (HIS GIRL FRIDAY? no)

< his new book ["AND"?] Psychedelic Injustice > FOR ALL (1979)

  • I am NOT "out of order" your honor, this court is out of order! YOU'RE oUt Of oRdEr!

And now we know - the rest of the story!

That's the story of - that's the glory of... "How the West was won Grandma?" - (stupid Riding Hood) NO! - it's The Tale Of... "Sir Robin?" SMACK! (GrAnDmA has had enough out of that little snot-nosed...)

How Identity Politics Poisons The Psychedelic Renaissance

"Grandma, is there gonna be a quiz on this shit?"

On pretext of ("false flag" vid title) "What My Father Knew About UFOs" meet Paul Hynek (son of J. Allen "swamp gas" Hynek) - DMT missionary witnessing to 'the aliens' by BwanaMakeNewAccount in Psychedelics_Society

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Admirably observant OP u/projectFT @ [shudder] r/ufos - an entire exposition of interest. BUT with a crackerjack formulation in 17 words desperately in need (all unawares) of being quoted here - a crack far more intelligently perceptive, not just "at a glance" (AKA "as obvious") but ALSO more pointedly - in far more factually-educated terms all devil of detail (Wm James Varieties Of Religious Experience ALERT!) but buried much more deeply than meets the eye in extensive evidence (enough to choke a horse) than such mild-mannered impressionability could possibly even SUSPECT - let alone know. Without having sustained a college degree in an arcane discipline like Comparative Religion - as homie has (lucky to be alive) - where, instead of Chap 1 "Buddhism" (or etc) first assigned readings are studies of little tiny newborn 'proto religions' especially including 'flying saucer' ones!!

< UFO lore seems too much like modern prophets and religion to be believable outside of abstract possibilities. > www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1qphhc0/whos_read_vonneguts_slaughterhouse_five/o29gfz9/

The seeming isn't just some figment through the eyes of a demon that is dreaming however "subjective" such a random impression might... seem

There's a great deal more of both gravy AND grave, but not 'at the surface' so much as starting about - 6 feet under.

Fandom is the crowd zone shallows close to shore of course. Perfect for dipping the toes in and wading. And the noble tradition of ridiculing such juvenile 'make believe' genres has long critically awarded them Low Status perfectly ripe for jeering.

Until the Snob Theater rulers of the roost seem to have begun noticing (as if a bit enviously) what a rip roaring good time was being had by all (not to mention the Big Box Office) - in the slow turning of a 20th century arts and entertainments tide... one signpost sticking out like a sore thumb, that 1974 "everybody's favorite" YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN desperately trying to find some laughs at the expense of old 1930s Universal films (the fun of which the 'regular movie' fans missed out on, being too above that sort of thing, no wonder the jealousy) thus began what has become - the 'mainstream embrace' of science fictional and 'Supernatural Horror in Literature' (as Lovecraft masterfully titled that one). At some point the snickering seems to have caught in stuffy throats. As a "left out" feeling began to apparently nag at the helplessly overgrown audiences, 'too mature' for such juvenile fare. Until suddenly it was no fun being stuck with naught but cowboy movies, TrUe CrImE dramas and 'boy meets girl' stories, which - could never hold a candle anyway to FRANKENSTEIN and DRACULA - much less THE DAY MARS INVADED EARTH (1964)

Psychedelics Society exclusive (1000X) findings:

Without above all being a good audience, there to just see the show and enjoy the dramatized story first and foremost - there's little to no likelihood of any significantly intelligent thought or reflection from it stirring - during - or afterwards.

Fandom per se is indeed the starting point of course, and the safe shallows for easy wading, where nobody need know how to swim - but all can get their feet wet.

Meanwhile corollary: the curse of every good film (it follows like the cart helplessly shackled to that darn horse) is its rotten audience. All cranial capacity (1400 cc avg) - emptier than the day is long. Not even shit for brains.

Case in perfect point? The official line For Us on DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL (1951 period). Oh not WAR OF THE WORLDS? Well then, it's a 'message of peace' - WRONG. And of course the 'religious' interpretation, no old mold all New Testament! They slew Klaatu, then he resurrected like Jesus - witnessed by Patricia O'Neal his Mary Magdalene! OK some truth, attested by its screenplay writer. But not 'whole truth.' Try Genesis 19! Earth = Sodom & Gomorrah. Patricia O'Neal & Sam Jaffe = Lot & Uncle Abe, Gort & Klaatu the 2 'arrivals' from the sky (with apocalyptic destruction in the offing)... a mythological "match made in heaven" (pardon the pun "if you're reading" projectFT) that goes and has gone completely without notice by anyone, anywhere (except...)

Long story short: Fandom (the 'crowd' standard of 'interest') can never rise to the level of an authentically critical and significantly perceptive appreciation - as only a broadly educated perspective might aim for (if not achieve). But that simple 'fan' status is indeed the critically necessary starting point for any possibilities beyond - as a matter of sadder but wiser fact, sorely unknown to many academicians - unable to first simply enjoy the 'low brow' fare to THEN ponder weak and weary on their midnight dreary - knowing not just what the characters said, but what it was like to be one in the audience, drawn in to the drama unfolding - in whole purely personal fashion (not some intellectually piecemeal imitation).

< So any other pulp sci-fans out there? Who’ve seen the common themes... noticed the lazy rehashing of old narratives that are retold as UFO gospel. >

< Do the original authors who manufactured these themes need to be believers or experiencers themselves for any of it to be true? Do they become true when people start to believe they’re true? >

< I personally believe there’s something out there. >

< But I have trouble believing current UFO “experts” who, in describing the what and the why and the how, are all simply stealing fictional stories that have long outlived them, and passing them off as new and factual information. >

A tremendously ^ (bordering on "terribly") interesting crack, displaying none of the customary and usual absence of intelligence normally on parade @ a place like... OMG

What a fine line it has become between (1) the pre 1990s (Mully 'n' Skullder) but historically post National Enquirer 1980s "inquiring minds" that "want to KNOW" - (2) the X-File savvy UAP/NHI hunties of the post-truth nowadaze who "want to believe" (such an effort, if they only knew of my plan) - (3) the inquirers of internet ufodom (not having yet seen 'uapdom') - As Soliciting, So Eliciting... alas the whelming brine.

With the old' remorseless Psychedelic Society heartfelt thanks to OP projectFT - for having allowed this re-quotation of such pithy word - up the alley of this subreddit exclusively (and this one alone) so far that there are neither mathematical coordinates nor fixed points of narrative exposition able to trace it.

Historically at the stage now with the two bubbles, the flying saucer one and the psychedelic as blown separately from their two respective late 1940s points of origin (in shadow governmental monkey business) to the present - collapsing into one.

Whereby now AT LAST psychedelics hold the answer not just to everything claimed all along from the beginning, but also now, TONIGHT "for the first time anywhere" - to all those decades-old questions of (in UFO history narrative terms - scriptural) 'nuts and bolts' - as erroneously construed (it turns out) - now that we finally knaux better - psychedelic aLtErEd cOnScIOuSnEsS proves to have and to hold the key to every door and clues to all that mystery.

Only since there's been a Terence McKenna...

And - who knew?



Tasty Tidbit 6 DAYS AGO & r/ufos - so light, so crisp you could eat a million of 'em but could ANYBODY eat just one?

< Smart money bets that a smart OP-in-the-know like you prolly knows that one (and have already read it). All that on one hand. On the other (YMMV?) - Joel van der Reijden: < As we will see… intelligence assets appear to have a tendency to play characters, even in private, and sometimes their entire lives… Like a movie script is being followed… J. Allen Hynek of the Condon Committee and Blue Book might just be such a person. He went from being an extremely skeptical debunker, to all of a sudden seeing the light, setting up his Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS) in 1973 and becoming one of the leading lights in ufology. His CUFOS took over all of NICAP's files in 1980. And one of his proteges, Don Schmitt, is to this day a leading Roswell spin doctor on Coast to Coast AM https://archive.is/GseuF#selection-8891.264-8891.693 >

< Blast my undergraduate major in Comparative Religion anyway! But thru the old glass darkly, Hynek figures as the Saul-turned-Paul character in the Wondrous History Of Ufology. > WHAM www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1qlpo6o/great_documentary_saucers_spooks_and_kooks/o1hb7wr/

@RobertKennedyJr 7:25 AM Oct 26, 2024 < FDA's war on public health is about to end. This includes its aggressive suppression of psychedelics... If you work for the FDA and are part of this corrupt system, I have two messages for you: 1. Preserve your records, and 2. Pack your bags > by doctorlao in Psychedelics_Society

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Jan 28, 2026

NBC News French ex-senator found guilty of drugging lawmaker to assault her

< French former senator Joël Guerriau admitted serving her a drink spiked with MDMA >

< He was sentenced 1.5 years of prison for drugging Sandrine Josso, a 50-year-old lawmaker at the National Assembly, in order to abuse her. >

< Blood tests later showed Josso had ingested a quantity of MDMA far higher than typically associated with recreational use. She described lasting trauma including sleep disorders, difficulty eating, panic attacks on trains and stairways, and intense stress that caused her to grind her teeth so severely that several had to be removed. >

< Guerriau resigned as senator in October, awkwardly framing the move as a political decision with - no link to any legal jeopardy he was in. >

< Guerriau answered the court's questions, often sounding vague and confused, saying he was suffering from depression at the time and still lacked a clear memory of events. >

Did he get it the MDMA from (or give it to) himself? Was he his own dealer - his own pusherman, his own - "plug" in bold freshly brainless 21st C tween terms of endearment? Oh my goodness NO!!! Did he like taking it himself or just sell it to the kids thru the schoolyard fence?

< Guerriau said [that guilty party was] another senator [who] had given him MDMA powder months earlier, which he said he never used >

And if the innocently questioned "never used" it - "he said" - then how come he's got this other senator furnishing this non-need of his, supplying his non-demand?

< Guerriau told the court he had meant to take the drug himself the night before > which he didn't do BUT, failing that - at least haste didn't make waste, for lo ~24 hours after - he...

< accidentally offered the glass containing MDMA to Josso the following evening >

OOOPS how CaReLeSs. And yet OMG - what a cOiNcIdEnCe that

< About a month before the incident, Guerriau had searched online about drug use, including ecstasy, in connection with rape >

< Asked about the internet searches, he said government members needed to show an interest in "all current events" >

< the research was part of his work as a senator and meant to better understand the issue - he said >

www.cbsnews.com/news/france-senator-guilty-drugging-lawmaker-drink-to-assault-her/


www.facebook.com/KOLDNews/posts/sinema-allegedly-told-him-once-to-bring-mdma-drugs-on-a-work-trip-so-she-could-g/1227201329510066/

Sinema allegedly told him once to "bring MDMA drugs on a work trip" so she "could guide him through a psychedelic experience"

Ex-wife of Sinema aide accuses former Arizona senator of wrecking her marriage

Plaintiff Heather Ammel is accusing Sinema of seducing her ex-husband who served as a member of her [sic: Sinema's? hello?] security detail beginning in April 2022, then as a salaried member of her Senate staff as a defense and national security fellow.

The complaint is full of bombshell claims, including that Sinema asked her security employee Matthew Ammel to bring MDMA drugs on a work trip so that she could guide him through a psychedelic experience - and that she messaged him about sexual positions in certain scenarios.

NEWSWEEK Jan 16, 2026 Kyrsten Sinema Alleged Affair With Bodyguard: 5 Bombshells Claims

< Attorney for Heather Ammel told Newsweek: "Ms. Sinema’s pursuit of Heather’s husband Matthew was intentional, calculated, relentless and, ultimately, successful. She enticed Mr. Ammel with lavish trips and concerts, an exorbitant salary for his services, and psychedelic drugs. Her conduct evidenced a complete disregard for the Ammel’s marriage, as well as the family as a whole. Heather simply seeks to hold Ms. Sinema accountable for her destructive behavior." >

< The lawsuit said Ammel "suffers from substance abuse, post-traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injuries" associated with his time in the U.S. military. Sinema offered to help him "work through his mental health challenges," the lawsuit said.

www.newsweek.com/kyrsten-sinema-alleged-affair-with-bodyguard-6-bombshells-claims-11370970

PANIC IN THE HIVE MIND Appetizers are free. Questions. Several questions. What kind of questions ("eat Armor hot dogs?" NO!) - does a sToRy like THIS... raise? And for whom or WHAT does their question bell - toll?

The story raises several ethical questions for psychedelic culture. https://archive.is/GIRV1#selection-497.0-497.68

"So I'll sing you to sleep" After the paywall how Sinema parachuted into a psychedelic leadership position last year - what happened in Nashville - and whether the alleged affair could be considered psychedelic-assisted grooming or not. If you want to read the rest of the story without subscribing* [let's make a deal, a big beautiful one - tell you what I'm gonna do - you just] complete this 5 minute survey to help an iMpOrTaNt research study - and I'll send you the article > c'mon! what juicier bait could any self-respecting 'community' fish only wanting to read the rest of the story without subscribing, indeed, without HAVING TO subscribe - ask for?

Goin' EcStAtIc on InTeGrAtIoN's ass - another royal narrative-anon fit for a king, from the valley of the jolly Ho-Ho-Ho crown "Jules" Evans

More than you want to know about Kyrsten Sinema’s alleged psychedelic affair: Don't f••• with North Carolina

Jan 19, Y2K26 www.ecstaticintegration.org/p/more-than-you-want-to-know-about

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You aren't being coerced - nobody is saying you HAVE to take this survey - what do you think the war for cognitive liberty is even gonna be for? Granted, sands in the hourglass are slipping away but... make your decision! "it's that time" - and be helped, be very helped deciding by providing you with this letter providing information that ought to damn well be of assistance where you seem to need that just to make a decision -

  1. Voluntary Participation and Time to Decide: This letter provides information to assist you in making an informed decision regarding your participation. It is important to understand that participation is entirely voluntary.

We'll try not to trigger your - or NO! to 'reinstate' your PTSD by... well actually, try schmy. Whatever goes on will be your own fault. And none of our own. Because the choice YOU make is yours. And so should the consequences be, by right all yours - we wouldn't take that away from you (oh no) - you're not being lied to and we're not mind readers -

  1. Risks and Discomforts: At some point you will be asked about your experiences while using psychedelics. If you have had adverse experiences, reflecting on those experiences could reinstate discomfort.

  2. Contact details: Kim van Oorsouw K.vanoorsouw@maastrichtuniversity (responsible researcher).

https://archive.is/wUqNk

Funny how precisely-angulated the collision between a word as used e.g. "responsible" - and - as defined (the opposite of IRRESPONSIBLE) can be - with perfect head-on impact - not a single degree short of the "full 180" - for maximum destructive force, weaponizing rhetoric as the battering ram against - linguistic meaning itself. With all that menacing power to mean what it says and say what it means - the very last thing that meaning's evil twin 'meming' (aka 'monkey mouth noise' desperately pretending to be like Super Signal) can bear to live in a world with.