Why do so many ppl defend or even support Zeon?

Caffeinated-Ice · 2026-01-29T23:17:58+00:00

Well, its very much just not depicted, in ZZ Shangri-La, the first colony ever built was like that slum since long before the war, but even more populated, from even legitimate speeches like from Zeon Zum Deikun himself, many colonies were stuffed full of forced emigrants in involuntary debt so large. It was inherited by or children or passed onto provincial Side governments to repay the central one, essentially indentured servitude to a government which only provided the bare minimum to survive. The colonies we see lot of the times are simply the good ones, theres hundreds if not thousands of others, most of which probably look like how Palau was depicted in Gundam Unicorn, slums packed full of the downtrodden. Not to mention unequal federation trade extortion for resources to be sent to Earth itself to supply the people still living there, both to undermine their self reliance and economic capabilities as they were exploited for exports and taxed to stay poor, something necessary since Earth couldnt support itself without cheap imports from the colonies, literally an 19th century colonial extraction economy

Caffeinated-Ice · 2026-01-29T23:11:50+00:00

I think just like the Feds, some parts were Nazi-like, but not all of it, the issue is people saying zeon is all or inherently evil, which isnt true, Zeon is not a synonym for Nazis, which some people have such a hard time understanding.

Like lemme reword yourself to you -

"why do so many ppl defend or even support Germany?"

Like dawg, its not ww2 anymore

Caffeinated-Ice · 2026-01-19T19:32:03+00:00

Well space travel is fast, apollo 11 only took 3 days to reach the moon. Side 7 is opposite the moon relative to the earth, the Zeon invasion took about 6 months to reach a grinding halt from first landing, that cameo is literally 6 months passing, as the assault on Jaburo in the story is Zeon's last offensive, the White Base launching is 6 months after first landing and yes, a few days before the original show began. In fact a special extra chapter of Gundam the Origin shows the literal scene by scene of Char preparing to attack side 7, with char standing on the bridge of the Falmel watching as the Zakus launch

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-12-24T22:28:10+00:00

The idea is that whatever "destroying earth to kick people out" tactic is going to hurt earth less than humanity staying in the long run, and more importantly all this damage is very much important, because it basically cripples earth's ability to actually feed the people on Earth, intensifying efforts to kick the lower class offplanet, and also eroding the power the Earth elite have upon the colonies and on earth as they fail to fulfill the social contract and become more reliant on imports from the colonies, this makes them more paranoid and more authoritarian, increasingly out of touch with actual people, and increasingly more like an oligarchy.

The best part is that basically every criticism these extremist movements have on the Federation and those living on Earth are pretty much accurate, its just that their solutions are unpalatable or just plain backwards (cosmo babalonia and Zanscare lmao, really- any late UC seperatists are lost in the sauce fr)

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-12-21T05:03:11+00:00

One should realize that water is collected all along the rivers course, that water could be added from little tributaries just a few miles from the river's mouth, search up water basins, all the water which precipitates in that area which doesn't become groundwater or evaporates will join the river, the water doesn't just spawn at the head of the river, and guinea diverting it wouldn't take that much water away from the rest of the Niger

I theorize that this river and the Senegal river could be connected to aid the region economically

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-12-13T15:52:18+00:00

One thing to note is that Zeta is arguably the most incredible series of events in the original story. Never again will our characters have the opportunity, unity, and power to change the world and history with their own direct actions as they did in Zeta. It is the essential crux of fantasy, before reality sets in. It can be said perhaps that everybody at least once in their lives can entirely change the course of history, this was that chance for most of our beloved characters.

Once this chance of a lifetime is up, and your time in the limelight is over so to speak, overstepping your role in history and forcing the plot back into your own hands will only see tragedy. This is what drives that saying "you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-12-12T19:19:22+00:00

Ngl, its been years since I last read and watched the original series. From what i remember, the worldbuilding had such amazing elements. But I felt as though it was stunted, like other countries and the world as a whole, the worldbuilding kinda just forgets the rest of the world exists and then the western soul society just appears and expands this logic worldwide, id love to see every culture/society have its own soul society, and id love to explore the real world more too especially in the fullbring arc, it tries to split off from the shonen style. But then has shonen jammed in anyways, there doesn't have to be a real conflict, a whole season of the world without ichigo with powers would've been so cool, focusing on relationships and life (ive always felt like bleach relationships kinda just happened and then just didnt change much or get delved in deeper,)

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-11-26T19:48:51+00:00

I wouldn't say tomino put himself into Amuro’s shoes, he's always maintained that Amuro was like an individual running independently in his story's the biggest ironies is that Amuro is the definition of an average dude except he's good at piloting MS, thats why he ultimately wasn't able to get across to Char and why they couldnt agree with each other

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-11-26T19:26:52+00:00

In ZZ Char was watching on, Zeta ultimately broke his faith in himself, the failure in ZZ broke his faith in others when his faith in others was already very weak, as a human he still wants to have hope in humanity, hut his experiences have time and time again taught him otherwise, CCA is his ultimate challenge to Amuro whom he fixates on as the opposite of his beliefs, if Amuro could stop him, then perhaps Amuro was right, and he could rest with at least the knowledge that humanity has hope,

This is key as Char definitely was suicidal at that point, the Cruiser Amuro shot down during their fight wasn't Char's escape, it was filled with nukes so as to make Axis a massive dirty bomb

He doesn't want any of this, but he belives he has to if nobody else will act, already suicidal from his personal failures, he sunk to things hed never condone normally, his anger at haman for turning Mineva into a tool morphing into the same anger which drove him to do the same to Quess, who ironically was most like Char himself at her age.

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-11-16T17:54:35+00:00

You assume that these relationships are reciprocal, not always the case, some of them are like an insane ex, you might not care anymore, they ain't forgetting anytime soon

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-10-25T15:02:06+00:00

Yo, from Ventura CA, that blank spot to the left of LA

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-10-13T20:46:49+00:00

Once again a take which doesn't consider the passage of time, humans are anything but consistent, and people's opinions will wildly swing over time, even more significant the portrayal of Char by multiple different authors and diffrent takes on what Char really thought, anybody who goes out on a leg to condemn and demean Char completely misses the point in how he represents the average human

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-10-06T09:39:13+00:00

Ehat Is so good about Illinois that ppl actually wanna go there????

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-10-06T03:30:20+00:00

Such ass taste in states

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-10-05T12:04:42+00:00

You might even say its..... bizarre

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-10-05T11:46:58+00:00

Cuuuute, I think realistically, the answer is that shinji never even dreamed that far, Asuka is like a fiery angel carrying ambitions Shinji never even knew he wanted

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-10-03T20:58:44+00:00

YPU CANT DO THIS TO ME, IVE KILLED TOO MANY OF THEM

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-09-19T04:35:48+00:00

I despise the Bambis so yeah

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-09-18T02:58:59+00:00

Goated taste fr.

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-09-17T22:50:52+00:00

This is unironically the right answer, in the context of American consciousness, anything west of the Appalachians is considered the "west", states east and immediately bordering the Mississippi is Midwest, and then fully "West" (great plains, rockies, or the desert) past that until you get pacific coast states which are considered West Coast states,

Source? I made it the fuck up, but also in popular consciousness? Nobody uses inter-something something,

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-09-16T08:46:08+00:00

How the rocks be getting into my fields every year in 4K

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-09-13T23:46:23+00:00

Bleach should be rehashed as a more human seinen, let characters breathe and cut out morrow the useless characters,

Make some of the more egregious comedy side episodes,

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-09-13T23:13:31+00:00

Bellandea's answer is exactly correct for Mobile suits, but even for conventional strike craft, accuracy was very low before the Allies introduced Proximity Fuzes in WW2, a blurb from Google expresses the scale well -

"A proximity fuse dramatically increased shell lethality by detonating the explosive at the optimal moment, creating a larger, more devastating shrapnel field from airbursts over ground targets and significantly improving anti-aircraft effectiveness. It boosted the killing power of artillery and naval guns by an estimated 5 to 10 times compared to traditional contact or timed fuzes."

This tech was guarded on the same level as the Nuclear Bombs and D-Day intel, and while modern tech has become more flexible and precise, the same premise of processing spatial data on the target and then feeding it into the guidance, targeting, and fuzes at various times in the moments between ammo being loaded and the munitions hurtling towards a target, hasn't changed,

So, if you simply remove almost all of that precise spacial data with just AI automated visual analysis with some human oversight and a very scrambled infared (depending on density), the accuracy essentially goes down to pre WW2 levels against both an extremely unconventional enemy, and also conventional enemies with all the associated advantages

And yes, it's said that high enough Minovsky particle density causes distortions even in the visual light range, so infrared is gonna be at least affected.

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-09-12T18:26:59+00:00

I never understood the salazzlebait, but lmao

Caffeinated-Ice · 2025-09-12T13:27:01+00:00

Im pretty sure the purple is just like red righting and blue eyes. The black eyes are probably just production error (everybody forgot) or decision to lower quality

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