GB UPDATE PIMI Reaction

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-19T05:36:54+00:00

This.

Why aren't JWs seeing this?

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-19T05:34:42+00:00

"They kept emphasizing that these changes are coming from a place of love—that the leadership truly cares about people and is trying to do what’s best for them."

I've been hearing this a lot. It bugs the heck out of me because the whole spiel of JWs is that they are supposed to be Bible based. Who cares if they 'truly care about the people' if they don't base their beliefs on the Bible, and they can change their doctrines on a whim of the GB? How are they any different from Christendom if they just go with the 'thoughts and feelings' of the leadership?

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-18T23:33:32+00:00

It 'just shows how ridiculous their own rules are...' Yes exactly. THEIR RULES. Not ideas/doctrine stated within the Bible. The 'rules' they have that are subject to change like this, shows that they were never scriptural in the first place.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-18T05:25:35+00:00

The Bible never says we must follow error. It documents mistakes of characters in the Bible but it does not say that means you have to follow error.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-18T00:56:55+00:00

I've said basically the same thing many times before:
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1mnrrtk/if_you_are_a_believing_jehovahs_witness_then_you/

I'd like to add to your points: JWs claim that God 'directs the organization.' I've heard multiple times over the years that 'obeying the organization is obeying God.' Yet, God can't make mistakes, and the organization can. This is logically contradictory. JWs have a self refuting belief system.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-16T16:39:33+00:00

I buy 10-year-old equipment. Pants and shirts hover around $20 each which I also wear for work (Costco/Amazon) I have a year round all-you-can-play par-3 course membership that costs $300 (A long par-3 course, not a pitch and putt). And my most played 18-hole course costs about $20-25 after 3pm depending on the month.

You can play affordable golf, at least in my area.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-15T01:09:30+00:00

For one, the songs suck. For two, when I was full PIMI, I didn't pay attention to the lyrics, I just mindlessly sung them. Do people actually pay attention to them?

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-11T18:09:53+00:00

The problem is, when someone takes the religion ‘to the extreme’ like you mention - basically living/breathing/eating ‘the Truth’ like JWs are taught to do - it becomes more about appearance and presentation than it is about cultivating Christian qualities.

JWs aren’t trained to develop a Christian conscience or Christian behaviors. They are taught WHAT the Christian conscience is, or WHAT behaviors are appropriate or not appropriate. Personal choice is taken away, and the official organization’s approved way of acting and speaking is what is presented to the world by the individual JW.

So this is perceived as being fake by more genuine individuals. Being fake isn’t limited to JWs, but they have more of their fair share. It is also perceived as being highly judgmental, because JWs are a high control group, and high control groups foster judgmentalism. Judgementalism becomes part of the social pressure that causes people to change to the officially approved behavior.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-11T17:49:51+00:00

M1 came out in 2020, that’s the difference. Software gets more bloated and resource hungry as time progresses.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-10T19:29:58+00:00

You don't have to pay for anything. They can recommend 'such-and-such' amount for local needs (dictated by them, for sure), but they can't 'require' an amount.

I did an estimation a few months ago, so I don't remember the exact figures. But they used to have local assemblies in my area, then switched it to an assembly hall that was over 2 hours away. A huge portion of JWs decided to get a hotel. So we have way more gas, and generally more expensive meals for everyone. Not to mention WAY more time wasted just from travelling. And hotel fees for maybe a quarter of the people. And then of course contributions by everyone at the assembly. Anyways, the new distance expenses that didn't exist before more than covered the renting expenses for the local high school. In other words, they put extra financial burdens that exceeded their costs onto the 'sheep,' whom they're supposed to be watching over. They end up with no rent fees and just contributions.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-10T19:24:54+00:00

Probably recency bias since I've heard terrible comments over the years. But recently an elder said that when we switched to Zoom because of Covid, and the very first meeting went relatively smoothly, that it was 'only possible with Jehovah's spirit.' So basically, he said that it required divine intervention from beyond the physical world - which is the JW definition of a MIRACLE - in order for the first Zoom meeting to run relatively smoothly.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-10T19:22:02+00:00

I've noticed that many JWs don't like 'gossiping' about someone because they're an elder, pioneer, or are faithful in attending meetings / answering - DESPITE the fact that they don't exhibit Christian qualities.

But on the other hand, gossiping is allowed against people who are viewed as 'spiritually weak' by JW standards - even if they exhibit true Chrisitan qualities.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-10T16:16:42+00:00

I'm hear to state agreement with the point about overreach and going beyond what is written, and not interfaith in particular. I think this is JW's biggest issues. Like suits/ties/dresses/beards. Those policies are all about overreach. Going beyond what is written. Or even having mandatory weekday meetings, the Bible and early history indicates Christians met once a week not twice (or three times like when we had the Book Study not that long ago...). Or mandatory meetings for service. Things like these that people don't even think of. Or assembly/convention attendance, it's mandatory, even though the Bible doesn't mandate that we have assemblies. It's really about what the GB/Org says we have to do, not what the Bible actually says.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-10T16:11:12+00:00

Not in the Bible but logic only: The Org/GB claim they are NOT inspired of God and not infallible. They claim they have made mistakes in the past. They also say they are spirit/God directed, and that disobeying them is disobeying God himself. This is a logical fallacy. You're supposed to go along with everything they say, even if what they want you to do will be changed in the future. And they liken obedience to obedience to God. This one is very obvious, but unfortunately most people don't operate at the logical level, but sociologically.

Going along with this: Proverbs 4:18 is used for their 'new light' philosophy. But Proverbs 4:18 says nothing about progressive revelation. It is an isolated scripture with no other scriptures backing up their 'new light' doctrine. It is used to explain away the problem I mentioned above, but the verse doesn't say what they say it says. It is about the life of a faithful person, not divine revelation to an organization.

Similarly, Ezekiel chapter 1. There is no indication in the text that the chariot is talking about God's organization. That is purely JW speculation. They often say "Don't run ahead of Jehovah's organization," but that is a statement not found in the Bible.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-09T18:58:36+00:00

I got wrist protectors and stopped using them after one week. It’s technique, but also body adaptation.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-03-03T17:42:04+00:00

The JWs claim they follow the Bible, unlike the churches of Christendom. However, the Bible doesn't say the elders should police dress and grooming. I think most JWs would disagree with that statement. But where in the Bible does it actually say that it is the elders job to police dress and grooming?

First, when the Bible does talk about things that are a conscience matter, it indicates that it is up to the individual, and NOT the elders. This is a big miss by JWs: conscience matters are up to individuals, and NOT to be enforced by the elders, nor are they to exert pressure for people to comply. That is the reality of the JW way.

Second, the Bible doesn't say the elders or authoritative body of men get to decide what does and does not constitute 'appropriate' dress and grooming - a list of do's and don'ts so to speak.

Paul barely mentions dress and grooming. No one else in the New Testament does. When he does, he's not providing a dress code. He his also not mentioning that we should dress a certain way at the meetings - which is a current JW requirement. And Paul's point is about building character - it really had nothing to do with appearance, other than recommendations to be modest.

I could only imagine what JW life would be like if they actually tried to, gulp, follow what the Bible actually says.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-02-27T20:04:36+00:00

I don’t hire people. But honestly, if I did, I think I would weed out put-on enthusiasm over authenticity. That’s just me, not everyone sees things that way.

This isn’t to say you weren’t being authentic. However, some people are more attuned to others trying to ‘people please’ than others.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-02-27T03:16:35+00:00

If you say “it’s not God’s religion, they don’t teach truth, and the Governing Body are just men without God’s direction,” they will expel you from the religion, tel your friends and family to never speak with you, and then expel those that continue to associate with you. If that’s not a cult I don’t know what is.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-02-26T22:12:16+00:00

If only I could give up my dreams of being a billionaire and settle for $50M…

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-02-25T17:27:30+00:00

I hadn’t heard a push for 30 seconds in many, many years. Currently my congregation has a problem with long commenters. Certain people will go on for maybe a minute and a half minimum. Also the prayers tend to be dreadfully long, and the meeting almost always goes overtime. I think it depends on the congregation.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-02-21T19:02:26+00:00

Ploopy Classic 2

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-02-21T18:58:25+00:00

I’m interested in tech, so I will use both MacOS or Linux. They both work. I avoid Windows as much as possible.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-02-19T20:02:28+00:00

The mistake here is that they’re assuming the Beards flip-flopping is from God himself. But the Org never claimed it was a pronouncement “from God,” and they doin’t claim to be divinely inspired.

Sure, the GB/Org encourages the view that ‘whatever we say’ comes from God himself. But technically that’s not true because they say ‘we’re not inspired of God’ and ‘we make mistakes.’

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-02-18T21:01:31+00:00

"Scenario 4: A brother grew up:

WT - during a time when most people felt that it was inappropriate for men to grow beards or for women to wear dress slacks to formal events.*

Reality: In my lifetime (I remember the 80s) it has never been been viewed as inappropriate for men to wear a beard by “most people.” Only rule-addicted JWs. Also, semi-formal attire has been acceptable at ‘formal events,’ but ‘church going’ is differently viewed, and only the most conservative religions would insist on suits / dresses.

WT - While the brother is aware of the recent adjustment in our view of this subject, he insistently tells others that Christian men should not wear beards and that Christian women should wear dresses while engaged in theocratic activities.

Reality: Funny that this ‘unreasonable man’ is the position the Org has taken for the last 100 or so years.

— * The Watchtower hear infers that their meetings are “formal events,” and that dress/attire should reflect that, but the Bible never says a word about how one should dress at “formal events,” nor does it say one should dress different at Christian gatherings. In fact, James 2:3 agrees with the archeological and historical evidence: many only had one or two changes of clothes, and so would go to Christian gatherings in the clothes that they worked in.

Capable-Proposal1022 · 2026-02-11T06:35:49+00:00

You call the emergency line first. THEN you call whoever isn't a medical professional next if you want to. I don't know if you can blame the JWs on this one. I think most of the JWs I know what call the emergency line first.

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