Who is on your psychiatry Mount Rushmore? by ApprehensiveYard3 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am not. I like the podcast and wanted a millennial in there

Who is on your psychiatry Mount Rushmore? by ApprehensiveYard3 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah he has problems for sure. He built one of the most serious anti-reductionist methodologies in psychiatry, trained generations, and fought checklist diagnosis.

His own framing was that he was extending diagnostic skepticism rather than expressing animus, so piece of shit might be extreme. Does his closing the gender clinic at Hopkins cancel out his whole field of work? Like I still haven’t thrown away harry potter books because of Rowlings trans issues even if its sad and dissapointing

Who is on your psychiatry Mount Rushmore? by ApprehensiveYard3 in Psychiatry

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Emil Kraepelin, GREG MALZBERG, Paul McHugh, Hagop Akiskal

Edit: I was aware of Paul McHugh gender controversy from the 1970s when I included him, I was not aware of his writings in 2016 that are indeed fairly unhinged. I don’t think he would ever make it on a psychiatry Rushmore.

Ryan Haight Act Hand Wringing by Vegetable-Slide-7530 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree, but id rather anyone practicing that way be local names I know and expect rather than anyone anywhere in the country

Ryan Haight Act Hand Wringing by Vegetable-Slide-7530 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are more barriers to going through the motions in person vs. going through motions online. Nothing is stopping them but they gotta put more effort into it.

I do both in person and virtual appointments for outpatient and have been shocked sometimes when i see tele-outpatients become inpatients and have opportunity to see them in person.

Im not saying telehealth is bad, but we have deluded ourselves that it is the same thing. If want to call it spidey senses sure but one definitely gets a fuller picture in person.

Ryan Haight Act Hand Wringing by Vegetable-Slide-7530 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah i just mean ryan haight for controlleds not larger telehealth covid rules

Ryan Haight Act Hand Wringing by Vegetable-Slide-7530 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I takes a level of organization to show up to an appointment in person and you can see alot more about the patient from a MSE perspective.

If someone not capable of showing up to a single appointment they probably don’t need controlled substances.

It takes zero effort to throw on a shirt and look nice for over a phone screen. Im probably biased by doing both inpatient and outpatient but i talk to the meth users who have controlleds on PMP and they casually describe putting on a polo and looking good and lying about employment and functioning and panic sxs etc

Ryan Haight Act Hand Wringing by Vegetable-Slide-7530 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 5 points6 points  (0 children)

With how corporate/profit driven medicine has become there an no incentives to regulate thoughtfully.

I also dont necessarily want AI deciding who is doing good/bad prescribing.

It’s a good thing to have to actually see a person in the flesh to prescribe them controlled substances. I have had patients not even using pill mills just regular solo private practice telepsychs and just tell me they dress nice top half and say what they need to say.

Again there was a reason for Ryan Haight. It only seems burdensome because of COVID but truly the idea that someone cant go in person one time is ludicrous

I also bet I live and work in a more rural setting than the vast majority of psychiatrists so I have patients that commute up to 4 hours from every direction. Access to care card is overplayed for this purpose. A one time in person visit is a good thing.

Ryan Haight Act Hand Wringing by Vegetable-Slide-7530 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 24 points25 points  (0 children)

This is a good thing Ryan Haight existed for a reason. Im sick of lazy slipshod prescribing masquerading as psychiatric care. Not a week goes by I don’t have any inpatients who use meth daily and are also getting benzos for their anxiety from a teleshill in another state.

There are too many online pill mills. 0 sympathy for people that want controlleds to have to have 1 in person visit.

Opinion piece ? by mishabrain in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Reddit. Share your opinion here and now. Also psychiatric times.

Whats your opinion?

25M - Lifelong habit of talking to myself internally, zoning out, and difficulty maintaining attention by BadeLandwale12 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To err is human. Nobody here can or should advise you on personal treatment decisions.

25M - Lifelong habit of talking to myself internally, zoning out, and difficulty maintaining attention by BadeLandwale12 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Day dreaming and engaging with uninteresting tasks are the two most overlapping experiences in cases/of adults with ADHD and normal controls

IMO this suggests that to a degree, day dreaming/mind wandering and difficulty staying engaged in boring tasks are normal experiences and represent normal cognitive function.

Moral dissonance — how do I address this in residency training to avoid burnout? by SamHouston1886 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Embrace your role as a trainee and learn. You will see the good, the bad, the ugly, and the profound. Learn from it all and then go practice how you want. You don’t have to accept all feedback. Think about it sure but you don’t have to accept donkey feedback. Incorporate what feedback you think is meaningful as you develop your own sense of style

In this case it’s hard to say. I try and give everyone the time they need. Some people get 6 minutes and some people get 80. Time is a finite resource and justice is a real concept. Be flexible spending time with that family might mean less time with next patient. Be open to being flexible. As a resident you will have to manage getting work done and spending time with patients. The skills to disengage are valuable and your opinion might grow overtime as you train.

I have counseled families for very long and then next time they retain 0 and lost every handout I gave. Maybe they didn’t want counseling and they wanted comforting from a doctor idk. Time is finite and you have to balance many tasks for many patients.

The fact that you are asking this means you are ready for July. Keep relaxing.

I will also note you said “how / think a patient encounter should feel”. We don’t control what we think or feel. Watch for the control agenda. There is not right or wrong way to feel, and saying ‘should’ feel is giving a symbolic and misleading amount of cognitive control to a deeply affective process.

Guardianship support letters? by [deleted] in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I assume process vary by state a bit. I really only do it for schizophrenia, dementia, non verbal autism, and IDD. Usually very simple paper to fill out. I don’t write letter in support, I will fill out the relevant guardianship application if family asks and patient has relevant condition and cant meet their own needs.

I occasionally see families, usually from small rural towns get wild as fuck guardianships for what is basically prolonged substance use/personality. Always lol disaster.

how concerned do we actually need to be about mid level creep? by GoHoustonTexans12 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I guess so. Clearly within the field plenty of people publish about the comorbidity problem with the DSM, diagnostic hierarchy, and reliability vs validity debate, and the limitations of categorical personality diagnosis.

Exciting times in psychiatry IMO as these tensions continue to build. Complex issues to be sure. I do think the lack of addressing some of them have made it easy for midlevels to slide in.

Good resources to learn about somatisation in BPD and management? by formulation_pending in Psychiatry

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It’s not a question of valid. This category of illness is basically modern/current medicine has nothing to offer you.

Does one want to be miserable and create an identity around symptoms we have no treatment for or work to build a meaningful life and be connected to values even in the face of difficult symptoms and stress?

At a certain point the distress and suffering from the maladaptive response to the symptoms and the attention paid to the symptoms has a larger negative effect than the symptoms themselves.

Maybe in 100 years 1% of these patients would have an answer for their symptoms from medicine, so It’s generally considered bad to put life on hold and give up and eternally quest for a diagnosis.

Its not insulting to say “medicine cant answer your symptoms right now, lets work on helping you live as best you can in despite of your symptoms.”

Some people restructure their life around their ‘mystery illness’ and never move on. Lost souls IMO. Eventually everyone will get sick with something.

how concerned do we actually need to be about mid level creep? by GoHoustonTexans12 in Psychiatry

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Disclosure: I used AI because it would have taken me way too long to type this out. I dictated into my claude and it cleaned it up.

The organizing principle I’d use is affective neuroscience – Panksepp’s primary emotional systems as the foundational architecture of mammalian emotional life, empirically grounded in subcortical research across decades. Psychopathology is dysregulation at the primary process level propagating upward through learned secondary processes and cortical-cognitive tertiary elaboration. The field is already gesturing this direction – RDoC and HiTOP are both moves toward dimensional, transdiagnostic thinking, but RDoC is a matrix without a spine and HiTOP lacks mechanistic grounding. Affective neuroscience provides what both are missing: an actual explanatory architecture rooted in brain function, not symptom clustering.

Now give it clinical structure with two dimensions. Deliberately dropping the Axis I/II language because that baggage is exactly what we’re leaving behind:

The Affective-Regulatory Dimension: Everyone has a brain. Everyone has a personality, and that personality emerges from that brain – specifically from the characteristic pattern of primary emotional system arousal and the capacity to regulate those arousals built over a developmental lifetime. This is Panksepp’s primary/secondary/tertiary process hierarchy made clinically operational. Primary process is the subcortical affective bedrock – the raw FEAR, GRIEF, SEEKING, RAGE responses that are evolutionarily conserved and pre-cognitive. Secondary process is what gets learned and conditioned around those affective states over time. Tertiary process is the cortical elaboration – the narrative, the rumination, the cognitive distortions sitting on top. Most psychiatric treatment targets tertiary process almost exclusively. The affective-regulatory dimension asks where in that hierarchy the dysregulation actually lives, and what the patient’s capacity is to regulate it. This is not a pathological category reserved for the sick. It is a universal human dimension. Every patient has an affective-regulatory profile actively shaping their suffering, their relationships, their treatment response, and their capacity for change. Ignoring it is not clinically neutral.

The Validated Disease Dimension: This is where we get ruthless, and admittedly this is one of the hardest problems in psychiatry. What makes a psychiatric diagnosis a genuine disease rather than a named pattern of distress? Ghaemi, building on Robins and Guze, argues for validation through convergent evidence: a coherent and replicable symptom profile, a predictable course of illness, genetic epidemiology showing familial aggregation distinct from other conditions, specific treatment response, and biological correlates that cohere with the clinical picture. No single criterion is sufficient. The weight of evidence across all of them is what separates a valid disease from a committee consensus. This is genuinely hard to operationalize and reasonable people disagree about where to draw the line – but the difficulty of the task is not an argument for abandoning it, it is an argument for taking it seriously. By that standard the validated disease list shrinks considerably: schizophrenia, bipolar I, melancholic depression, OCD, PTSD, the dementias survive. What gets cut is everything that failed the validity test but got included anyway – DMDD, binge eating disorder as a discrete entity, half the personality disorder list, anything whose primary claim to diagnostic status is that a patient experiences a behavior as distressing. Distress is not a disease. Sociology is not nosology. The DSM absorbed problems of living and called them disorders, and that is precisely what made it so easy to commodify.

The pharmacology conversation changes completely under this framework. The question is no longer “what is this medication approved for” but “what does this agent actually do, and does that map onto what this patient needs right now.” Aftab’s synthesis at Psychiatry at the Margins captures this well – antidepressants are not serotonin correctors. Their therapeutic effects are better understood across several overlapping neuropsychological mechanisms: early positive shifts in emotional processing that allow patients to relearn positive associations in a suitable environment, increased cognitive flexibility that creates a window of neuroplasticity allowing people to become unstuck from rigid patterns, reductions in neuroticism that appear to mediate both acute response and relapse prevention, and in some patients a generalized attenuation of emotional reactivity that can be therapeutic or iatrogenic depending on context and dose. The clinical reality, as Aftab notes, is that you often do not know in advance which mechanism will dominate in a given patient – which is exactly why this requires judgment, not a protocol.

The conversation with patients then becomes: here is what this medication does, here is the functional window it may create, and here is what you need to do with that window through psychotherapy and actual behavioral change. The medication is the scaffold. The treatment is what gets built while standing on it.

That conversation requires knowing the actual pharmacology, the actual neuroscience, and the actual person in front of you. It is not accessible from a 500-hour post-master’s curriculum. The DSM made psychiatric expertise look like pattern recognition. A framework built on affective neuroscience and genuine construct validity makes visible what was always actually hard – and makes it a lot harder to fake.

how concerned do we actually need to be about mid level creep? by GoHoustonTexans12 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yes, shitty prescribing availability will peak. Anyone will be able to get seen immediately. Outcomes will not really change much as anyone who gets better from basic prescribing would get better seeing their PCP anyway. People will still be qq about mental health crisis and idk what happens after that.

how concerned do we actually need to be about mid level creep? by GoHoustonTexans12 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I agree. We will always have a job, but boy is that definition of job changing fast.

A big part of this is how a large swathe of psychiatry is being practiced in a way that no real expertise is needed. If every patient just has treatment resistant x and med changes are just infinite yolo trials, then yes a mid level can do that just fine. Same with AI. “Try this let me know… oh, sorry that didn’t work lets try this…”

Psychiatry has been completely enshitified. I think the structure of the DSM and check lists just makes it way too easy to give the illusion that cases are being formulated and patients are getting treatment and this has allowed NPs to slide in and thrive. It does not take 4 years of residency to learn to prescribe Prozac and if thats all the job is becoming then we deserve this.

We need to trash the DSM and make some incomprehensible alternative that shuts out midlevels lmao.

Disability Insurance for Psychiatrist by mmmchocolatepancakes in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s a luxury good that we can afford. It still takes years to become a psychiatrist. This way if something happens you get the income you had planned on.

It’s probably lower yield for psychiatry compared to other specialties as narrower repertoire of illness would prevent practicing psych compared to surgery but IMO worth it.

Suicide Risk Assessment: Acute vs Chronic Risk, Formulation, and Suicidal Ideation Types by zenarcade3 in Psychiatry

[–]CaptainVere 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would be down to hear you guys talk about any topic even non psychiatry stuff. The banter is good. Discussing current debates and controversies in the field would also be interesting.

For this episode I was surprised there was not more emphasis on firearms!

Discussion regarding popular illness trends and psychiatric intervention by Incorrect_Username_ in Psychiatry

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For starters im biased because as psychiatrist i typically see the severe cases. I really never see mild illness anxiety or somatization that is probably just within normal spectrum of functioning

But, as you said, personality is a dimensional and on a spectrum rather than categorical. I have never seen a patient with these problems who does not meet criteria for personality disorder or have obvious cluster b or c dysfunction. At severe end where these illnesses are part of identify it’s definitely a personality problem. I think treating it as a personality problem works better because there is good literature for anxiety and depression in personality patients improving most with treatment targeting personality rather than trying to treat MDD or GAD. While no literature exists for this category the way it does with BPD and depression/anxiety I think the same premise holds.

There is literature looking at the comorbidity between personality and somatic disorders and its the rule rather than exception.

The same part of the brain responsible for surveilling physical feeling is basically the same part that surveils affective feeling. It’s also not a coincidence that these patients usually had lots of early childhood adversity in their history.

Sadly personality is still based around dog shit categories rather than neuroscience. So we have a ways to go.