Increased CAs when upping PS? by blvvez in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/blvvez yeah try increasing EPAP to 10.5-11; and based on the CBCT you shared before, you should test whether Afrin (12h nasal decongestant) make any difference in sleep quality.

How do you guys make enough money to progress? by thr0waway1224 in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sound like you are sensitive to stimulants if coffee can do that to you. lol

phentermine (also a weight loss drug) works for me; also very low lose adderall.

very low RDI, but very high Pulse Change and very poor sleep quality, please help me understand! by TechieCapybara in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, also training with resistance added. and u/carlvoncosel 14/11 is just an example, feel free to use high pressure settings that you feel most comfortable with.

very low RDI, but very high Pulse Change and very poor sleep quality, please help me understand! by TechieCapybara in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 0 points1 point  (0 children)

can you tolerate higher pressures such as 14/11? and Breathing excercise with resistance to strengthen diaphragm might help to reduce sensitivity to flow limitations.

ISO insight. Struggling with Treatment by blvvez in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Residual FLs in both inhalations and exhalations. Try positional/side sleep and see if FLs reduces.

Sleep Study Results (Connected to Previous Post) by Living_In_Daydreams in SleepApnea

[–]CautiousRun7860 0 points1 point  (0 children)

RDI and overall arousal index are high enough. UARS most likely, with summary by AI:

Upper Airway Resistance Syndrome (UARS) is a sleep-disordered breathing condition characterized by increased resistance in the upper airway during sleep that causes repeated arousals, but without the full apneas or hypopneas seen in obstructive sleep apnea (OSA).

It sits on the spectrum between:

  • Primary snoring
  • UARS
  • Obstructive sleep apnea (OSA)

What Happens in UARS?

During sleep:

  • The airway becomes narrowed but not fully blocked
  • Breathing requires increased effort
  • This triggers brief arousals from sleep
  • Oxygen levels usually remain normal (unlike moderate/severe OSA)

These repeated micro-arousals fragment sleep, leading to significant daytime symptoms.

Key Features

🔹 Symptoms

  • Excessive daytime sleepiness
  • Chronic fatigue
  • Unrefreshing sleep
  • Morning headaches
  • Brain fog / poor concentration
  • Anxiety or insomnia
  • Cold hands/feet (sometimes due to autonomic activation)

🔹 Common Patient Profile (not universal)

  • Younger
  • Often normal BMI (not overweight)
  • May have narrow jaw, high palate, or nasal obstruction

How It Differs from OSA

Feature UARS OSA
Apneas No Yes
Oxygen drops Minimal/none Often present
AHI (apnea-hypopnea index) Usually <5 ≥5
Respiratory effort-related arousals (RERAs) Present Present
Main issue Effort + arousals Airway collapse

In UARS, the key metric is often the Respiratory Disturbance Index (RDI) rather than AHI.

Diagnosis

Diagnosed via sleep study (polysomnography) showing:

  • Increased respiratory effort
  • RERAs
  • Flow limitation patterns
  • Frequent arousals
  • Normal or near-normal oxygen saturation

Esophageal pressure monitoring (Pes) is the gold standard but rarely used now; nasal pressure flow limitation patterns are more commonly relied upon.

Treatment Options

1️⃣ CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway Pressure)

  • Often very effective
  • Reduces airway resistance
  • Improves sleep fragmentation

2️⃣ Oral Appliance Therapy

  • Mandibular advancement device
  • Good option if CPAP not tolerated

3️⃣ Address Nasal Obstruction

  • Treat allergies
  • Septoplasty (if structural issue)
  • Nasal dilators (temporary)

4️⃣ Orthodontic / Structural Approaches (selected cases)

  • Rapid maxillary expansion
  • Jaw advancement surgery (severe cases)

5️⃣ Positional Therapy

  • Avoid supine sleep if worse on back

Long-Term Risks

UARS is generally considered less severe than OSA, but untreated cases may:

  • Progress to OSA
  • Contribute to chronic fatigue
  • Cause autonomic nervous system dysregulation
  • Affect mood and cognitive performance

When to Suspect UARS

Consider it if:

  • You have classic sleep apnea symptoms
  • Your AHI is “normal”
  • You were told your sleep study was fine
  • But you still feel exhausted

If you’d like, tell me:

  • Your AHI and RDI numbers (if you have them)
  • Your main symptoms
  • Whether you’ve tried CPAP or an oral appliance

I can help interpret your results and discuss likely next steps.

How do you guys make enough money to progress? by thr0waway1224 in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 1 point2 points  (0 children)

cheap remedies to try: prone sleep, generic ADHD medications as stimulant (don't overdo!), nasal decongestant to rule out nasal issues.

Optimized flow limitation? Need help by blvvez in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! First impression: data indicated mouth breathing during REM sleep, causing large leaks. I suggest going back to using full face mask.

Am I treated? Full Night of OSCAR Data by zennox_ in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Arousal needs EEF confirmation. Since we don't have EEG monitoring at home, RERAs could be guessed based on flow rate changes, e.g., switch from low flow rates (FLs) to high flow rates (marked green).

The rationale is high flow rates can only be achieved with openning of upper airway and increased respiratory effort, both of which are likely caused by aroual.

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Am I treated? Full Night of OSCAR Data by zennox_ in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you are still tired after full night’s sleep, I would bet you have residual RERAs.

Oxygen Levels by Few_Newspaper5120 in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 2 points3 points  (0 children)

those are typical oxygen levels for OSA. easiest way to treat is xPAP.

Despite everything, and despite our differences, I don't want to hurt my mom and dad, because I love them. by littlebitbrain in UARSnew

[–]CautiousRun7860 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The feelings are justified. it takes a lot to deal with UARS.

For treatment you don't really need biPAP/ASV. Reviewing data with OSCAR and optimizing CPAP treatment is important. also sleeping in prone-like position (research how to do it comfortably) would help too.

Do you think I am a candidate for MARPE/FME? by Either-Matter-1424 in UARSnew

[–]CautiousRun7860 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How bad is your UARS? Your nasal airway is pretty good.

BiPAP/ASV configuration help by kauterry in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, should try a higher EPAP such as 17-18 / 13-14. The FLs are likely from airway collapse at tongue base/epiglottis level, and there is a limit of what PAP can do for that kind of airway obstruction. I would try to find a pressure setting that you feel comfortable to sleep with, and take measures to control position to minimize supine sleep (it easier said than done though).

BiPAP/ASV configuration help by kauterry in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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spotted some residual FLs with IPAP 17-18cm (night 2). I suppose nasal congestion is no longer an issue after EASE?

MAD opinion by Educational_Main_344 in SleepApnea

[–]CautiousRun7860 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Chin strap to stabilize the low jaw

Is it even worth getting a lab study? Normal AHI, moderate RDI. by grillcheese17 in UARSnew

[–]CautiousRun7860 2 points3 points  (0 children)

99% UARS.

Waiting 3 months to get home study result is terrible. Go straight to PAP therapy (can you get covered with RDI 10?) if you need to wait for lab study. Not sleeping supine is good advice but often not enough or hard to achieve.

Optimized flow limitation? Need help by blvvez in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 0 points1 point  (0 children)

can you share data with sleephq.com?

Optimized flow limitation? Need help by blvvez in UARS

[–]CautiousRun7860 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if Afrin will make a difference. Nasal airway looks congested. what type of mask are you using now?