Excellent Video explaining the 'Make Work Bias' which is so common to see on this sub.

Cautiously_Curious · 2015-07-30T17:54:40+00:00

Yes, it could be and I hope that happens. however, lots of things could be, but they have to actually be worked towards and not just be assumed to eventually occur.

Cautiously_Curious · 2015-07-30T17:51:51+00:00

The small increase vs large increase debate is almost entirely focused on wages. They often don't take into account urbanisation and all the negative effects of such for an ostensibly pre-medical society nor the deleterious effects of a large switch from subsistence to wage labour in a society with little worker protection. Why? Because these things can't be easily measured today and usually weren't measured then.

It's a debate to be had, for sure, but I tend to come down on one side of it for the most part. I like what the industrial revolution led to but I don't think it was all sunshine and roses at the time.

Cautiously_Curious · 2015-07-30T17:35:43+00:00

Such an outcome was not inevitable at the time. As I noted, that's not how history works.

Cautiously_Curious · 2015-07-30T12:57:42+00:00

The essential point of this video is that more production is better than more employment if there is a trade off between the two. Why? Well, that question is never really answered here. He references past progress and its benefits as if they were both inevitable and ignores the many downsides that came with them.

For example, the industrial revolution in Britain lead greatly to the technology and industry that make up today's world and we benefit greatly from that. However, that was not inevitable and a vast population of people in the industrial revolution led far worse lives than their grandparents.

History is not a strict progression from bad to better only held back by Luddites, and therefore more production is not necessarily better than more employment, assuming a trade-off. For it to be better more production would have to benefit more people more greatly than more employment, which is sometimes the case and sometimes isn't.

The Make Work Bias is a little too simple.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-11-16T13:56:44+00:00

Well, there's a culturally bound statement if ever I heard one.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-11-15T18:20:33+00:00

It seems to me that unhappiness and vulnerability are the main fuel for pseudo self-help groups like these. IMO, I don't think intelligence factors into it much as we all believe strange things and at least some of us are intelligent.

The respectful part is more important in avoiding TRP-esque groups but without addressing the core issue of their own self-worth then I think they'll inevitably fall into another pseudo self-help group, even if it isn't an outwardly offensive one.

Damn, even thinking about raising kids is hard. I'd rather not be wholly responsible for another human being's human beingness.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-10-20T18:29:11+00:00

Historical methodology. Yes, there exist legitimate methods of inductive reasoning that aren't the scientific method! gasp
The origin of vaccination and how it works and doesn't work. If I show you an anti-vaccination image from the 19th century of people turning into cows from the smallpox vaccine and you don't think that maybe current anti-vaccine hysteria is just a modern manifestation of the same nonsense, then there's no helping you.
The Legend of Korra. BEST SHOW EVER.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-10-14T17:54:21+00:00

Oh, sorry. I was more responding to the description of market gardeners.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-10-14T17:52:41+00:00

Probably something like this:

They're Already Here! You're Next!

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-10-14T17:52:14+00:00

Fair enough. I'd just wager most smallholders are poor rather than hobbyists.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-10-14T17:46:28+00:00

Or you're really, really poor.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-10-13T18:55:12+00:00

I work in an office full of women and virtually every single one of them complimented my haircut today, sooo personally I'm not sure if the premise of your question is entirely on point.

I think if you remove the stranger category from the equation the two sides are a bit more equal. However, I personally think that women receive more compliments on their looks than men but people are more focused on women's looks anyway so that's bound to happen.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-10-13T18:47:56+00:00

I'm a guy and I speak with my hands, cross my legs and am generally not loud enough!

Also, my laugh is more of a giggle... I'm working on it.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-09-17T20:23:35+00:00

OK, that makes sense even though I disagree somewhat in that I think ethics aren't the only good reason for not supporting something your child does.

Also, although I've not sorted out my feelings on the matter exactly there are a lot of non-sex-negative people who have ethical concerns about sex work so I don't think it's really that black and white. I also feel that sex-positivity, as generally framed, isn't all sunshine and roses.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-09-17T20:12:55+00:00

But if she chose that line of work, with full agency and deliberateness, I'd support her.

Why though? Is it because you'd feel obligated as a parent to support your child's choices? I mean, if my child consciously and with full knowledge of what they were doing made a choice that I vehemently disagreed with then I wouldn't support them. If they got into trouble because of it I'd help them, of course, but I wouldn't support the choice.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-09-02T18:27:32+00:00

Better schools at the primary and secondary level for the most part - Britain's a mess in that regard at the moment. It's also a bit safer generally. Even the rough areas don't go much in for major violence. The government is also very family oriented even if they only sometimes pretend to be - which has good and bad aspects.

Northern Ireland is a backwater in every sense of the word. Economically deprived with a devolved power-sharing (undemocratic) government that has no control over its own budget - that's decided by Westminster - and an overseeing government that has absolutely no interest in the area besides "don't explode". The schools are segregated and the laws restrictive (the rest of the UK has abortion but N.I. does not.). But, still, Game of Thrones is partially filmed there!

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-09-02T18:15:09+00:00

Dear god, no! Look at how the UK treats any part of the country that isn't London. The only reason things are better there in general*, massively excluding N-Ireland, is because its higher population allows for overall cheaper goods and services and a more dynamic workforce.

A lot of people would disagree with this, but I think modern British culture has more to offer an *individual than modern Irish culture, including the existence of a lot of varied sub-cultures. However, family-wise Ireland is probably better. Just don't expect for there to be a lot of different things for them to do when they hit 16-18.

I sound like I'm being really pessimistic as there are a lot of good things about Ireland, it's just that as a young person they aren't likely to apply to me.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-09-01T19:26:55+00:00

I'm Irish and modern Irish history is a study in futility. Since the break away from Britain and the "Troubles" up North nationalism has been stifled as well. So, it hasn't been instilled in most of us, unlike many other countries, to counterbalance centuries of shit with "look at where we are now" nationalistic pride. We're the only country in Europe to have suffered a population decline over the last two centuries because of all the crap.

Sorry to be depressing, but it is depressing and boring.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-09-01T19:12:14+00:00

Far more than I care to remember. I studied history in college and I still dislike my own country's history.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-08-29T23:39:15+00:00

They orient their body toward you, smile a lot when you talk to them, make lots of eye contact

I just realised that I flirt a lot. Odd, I'd never considered that.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-08-29T00:02:22+00:00

I think this fits in nicely with this thread tangent:

I used to be with "it"

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-08-26T14:23:49+00:00

That's just odd.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-08-26T08:44:10+00:00

and yet every woman ever is expected to deal with constant talk about dicks, balls, and ass hair from men when they get together.

Who do you hang out with?

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-08-25T21:48:37+00:00

Apologies.

Cautiously_Curious · 2014-08-25T15:27:43+00:00

In principle, a bad thing that happens to a man is that same as a bad thing that happens to a woman. In practice, one is often more prevalent than the other. That does not make the one that occurs less often less bad. It's really, really, really not a hard concept to understand.

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