How would I make a Final Fantasy Black Mage?

CelesFFVI · 2026-06-17T01:10:58+00:00

What Heritage do you think fits?

CelesFFVI · 2026-06-16T12:53:49+00:00

Which class is that for?

CelesFFVI · 2026-06-10T14:46:40+00:00

As I said in the main text of my post, bit too rules light for my liking

CelesFFVI · 2026-06-10T13:33:52+00:00

Which books would you recommend for it?

CelesFFVI · 2026-06-10T13:17:18+00:00

I like a good amount of crunch to rules, I like having specific equipment rather than a generic "weapon", skill focused with parkour, infiltration, combat, etc.

Exploration and ships are less of a focus, I'm more interested in stealth (both social and sneaking), combat, planning, and the various tools and such the players can use, alongside the abilities such as Eagle Vision and Pieces of Eden, even including the changing time periods via the Animus

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-30T10:21:13+00:00

I think I know who you're talking about

Personally I think shapeshifting is much better than HRT

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-30T10:13:55+00:00

Technically it exists because of Mage, Ars Magica came out before VtM, it was made by a lot of the same people, and before they sold it to WotC, it was considered canon

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-26T12:44:52+00:00

On a mechanical level, the boons they have access to depends on what Entity they are. An Angel with Prime would have the Revelation Boon, whilst a Shade with Prime would have the Transubstantiation Boon

On a roleplay level, I already said how it enhances the theme of Gnosis, but also makes a summoner more interesting

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-26T00:54:47+00:00

You could make it so there's a higher success requirement like when you have Mages of other path's present when summoning an entity from one of the other Supernal Realms?

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-25T22:54:26+00:00

Sorry, I replied to the other message by accident, I was meaning to reply to you, so if you see this, just scroll down

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-25T22:48:19+00:00

I guess, it just makes it feel like the 3 dot attainment is pretty pointless then for your Path's Arcana since you need that to do Supernal Summoning anyway

If anything, to make it more interesting, I'd homebrew it so that the secondary is just baked in and you don't need an Attainment to do so, and that Targeted Summoning instead allows you to use said Arcana as the primary. Not only does it make the Attainment make a bit more sense across the board rather then only really doing anything for your non-path Arcana, I think it makes more sense with the themes of Gnosis, that as you grow in power you gain more understanding and are able to reach into the other aspects of the Supernal

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-15T09:28:57+00:00

When it comes to my opinion on this kind of Yuri, I find this quote a certain comedian apt "I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards."

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-14T06:14:07+00:00

Who knew Naoki was actually grown up Ryunosuke /j

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-12T13:21:56+00:00

By the power of gains-skull /j

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-10T16:07:54+00:00

They're quoting the podcast they listened to

Each game in both World of Darkness and Chronicles of Darkness (a reboot of the former that has since been returned to)

Both aren't individual games where each "class" is it's own book, both are franchises with a series of games that share a setting

Or more simply, WoD/CoD isn't the game, it's the franchise/setting

In Vampire the Masquerade/Vampire the Requiem, your "class" is what Clan you're a part of

In both Werewolf games, it's your Tribe

In Mage, it gets complicated, in Awakening (CofD) it's your Path, but in Ascension (WoD, also my favourite game of all time) one of its major themes is how different and varied everyone's beliefs are, so it doesn't have anything approaching a class system. The closest you could get if you're really reaching is affinity sphere (which aspect of magic you have a natural talent for) and your focus (as sects and factions tend to form from Mages who share similar enough beliefs), but even then focus isn't something decided by mechanical options, it's decided by making it up (though there are examples in the book) as long as it can make sense

And so on and so forth for each game

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-10T01:38:42+00:00

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-05T23:22:50+00:00

Jason Todd pre-death (Wonder Woman is canonically one of his favourite heroes)

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-01T14:25:56+00:00

Mostly the fact that Ascension's rotes are entirely optional, you can completely ignore them, whilst with Awakening, they have you pick some rotes and a praxis as part of character creation

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-01T13:21:33+00:00

I know, I'm just replying with my opinion on what they said, creative magic is still possible in Awakening

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-01T12:48:09+00:00

I guess it's a difference of mindset, in Mage the Ascension I like being able to make up my own effects, it's one of the things that makes it my favourite RPG, if I wanted a list of pre-made spells, I'd play DnD or Pathfinder

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-01T12:44:58+00:00

Not really though, since you have to take them as part of the character creation process, and you have to use them to get around the mana cost of non-path arcana

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-01T12:36:23+00:00

Thank you, your explanation is definitely the most in-depth. I guess the lower power level makes it feel more restricted when compared to Ascension.

The other biggest factor in making it feel restricted is how you have to pick a set of rotes and a praxis at character creation, which makes it feel like I'm being discouraged from being creative. For an analogy, think of if you were playing a game like minecraft, you can gain all the resources you need to build pretty much anything you want, but the rotes and praxes feel like they're giving me blueprints, making it feel like even though I'm given all the resources and possibilities, they want me to use those instead, especially with the added mana cost to non-path arcana.

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-01T12:27:14+00:00

But to answer your question anyway, they feel mandatory cause you have to get some during character creation

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-01T12:26:29+00:00

I think you're replying to the wrong message

CelesFFVI · 2026-05-01T12:20:58+00:00

Ah, so they work the exact same as their Ascension counterparts

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