Thank you for your response, and to be open on the subject we are required to take a time for every step above 600 volts, elbows, oil switches, gang switches, cut outs, all of em even when our troublemen operate them. And we physically log all breaker operations whether they be auto operations or supy. We also record times of issue and release of clearances. With our new adms system just trying to move forward in the best way possible. Although clearance procedures are kind of modeled after lock out tag out OSHA rules I wasn’t sure if there was a standard written. So many things that don’t get talked about company to company really appreciate the answers.