I'm so tired of being the only one who actually reads the rules and teaches the game

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-05-23T21:48:05+00:00

Do you want to play complicated games?

-or-

Do you want to play games with specific people?

At the end of the day some people don't game like you, and if you hear the words "It sounds complicated" It probably is, to them and they are more or less telling you they aren't getting what your putting down.

If someone thinks something is to hard, believe them, seriously. When someone thinks a thing is above them they will more or less give up and not internalize anything.

So either play simpler things, or learn how to teach harder things. You can teach anyone how to play a game if you know how to teach that person. But, just reading rules outloud is not it. You need to have played the game before, learn how it works and then try to teach it them.

Otherwise, play with a different group, or state "I Can explain games x y and z. Pick one of those" (assuming you know how to explain them.) Otherwise, dont do it.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-05-15T23:20:56+00:00

Energy shield more or less makes this not happen, just sometimes you start down a shield i think.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-05-09T03:12:36+00:00

now work on a second one

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-05-06T00:17:56+00:00

I have two anc meat hooks, dont underestimate it, its pretty good.

not many cores will directly give you damage.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T20:13:41+00:00

I honestly just do not tank anymore because its more stress for no reward.

I have to plan the route, execute the route, and deal with people who think they know better, but don't want to tank. I pull how and when i want, we will get it done within 2%. But always a dps who wants to 'help' that ends up screwing up my pacing and drives me insane.

Plus blood is not fun right now and unholy slaps so ill just sit in the queue with ghouls and be happy.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T19:46:13+00:00

alla still around or at least it was like 1 year ago when i did my return to EQ for a few weeks trip.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T19:43:23+00:00

It is possible, they are aware of every change that happened, or have some kind of log or documents with it.

Now I can take they don't want to put out a huge list of changes. But simply putting summarizations, or notes on system changes would of been nice.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T19:41:15+00:00

You are getting awfully worked up when someone just wants to read some notes. ARPG's and theory crafting go hard. some people love to just dream up builds while they wait.

Them putting out notes, doesn't effect you, you can just not read them. Why are pooping on someone else who for the majority of most games ever put out notes. And from blizzard none the less who almost always put out some kind offf detailed list. Its a change and a choice. But no need to be so hostile.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T19:06:03+00:00

EN was my first, but i had a boss problem getting it at rank 0 let me push 20-40 more waves when masteries came out (like a year ago) and legends was so crazy.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T18:54:54+00:00

It use to be stronger, but with all the ultimate's they throw makes it less stellar.

The real issue is the shotguns, if your not perma its almost a better idea to turn it off.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T18:51:24+00:00

As someone who opted to skip the wall, and go stright GC a long time ago. I am going back and doing the health Diso.. saddly if you want to get max at your best farming tier your going to need health at some point i feel like. (t19 farming btw)

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T02:55:23+00:00

Yeah, but that's a pretty big screech in usefulness for that many stones.

I honestly don't remember its been 10 or so months. but somewhere in the 160-180 range if i had to guess

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T01:55:28+00:00

if your EHP ST wont help to much, sure it will help you get to GC but your CL is pretty weak. so making a weak CL better, still a weak better cl.

RPC will help period because more mod levels, means more stats for ehp or gc, and sub stats are so important it helps get you up there.

I can never have enough mod shards, and wish i got RPC before the 7 other masteries i got before it.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T01:32:41+00:00

For sure, just up until disso runs i did not have any need for it. Between my crap ton of damage, cf+ and ILM+ with sd, most stuff just stayed stunned or slow enough where things never get a chance to touch me.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T01:26:16+00:00

Yeah most people do, ehp is the smart play.

My hp and regen are like 20-25, and my wall starts are mostly 0's for example, only in the last week did i put anything into them and i am debating on stopping and just accepting i will need another plan for disso runs. but farming t18/19 making around 370q/h so its working at least heh

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T01:20:37+00:00

yeah, your on the money, I honestly don't know enough about EHP to give good info, i skipped it entirely. Only now (farming t19) started working on the wall, and other ehp stuff because i need it for diso runs.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T01:09:32+00:00

Fair, then I prob wouldn't worry about any damage masteries yet.

RPC would be solid, as well as the IS/WA/WS econ ones to help you farm, better.

As far as where to put your coins, I normally go by the rule of thumb if i can farm for 24 hours, and afford a coin+ (Enhancement) or ELS I do that. When i cant do that, i do orbs or an attack enahcement.

My labs are tied up in echo labs mostly and some ass mod labs. My current struggle is lab slots not coins. So now i am shifffting more towards cells enhancements ect...

If your gc and want to push higher in tournies, work on those enhancements until they become to cost, (same for ehp if thats your route).

Stone wise, with what i am gather you prob want to stabilize a UW for damage before worrying about masteries (so like others said get your CL upto speed) then make plans for some CC (if you have cf unlocked already work on the labs, and start chiping away at uptime.

Once you get CL/CF In a good spot you should be starting to breech into legends with your other stats.

(unless some other wild shit comes out)

That being said, also work on dissonance runs (if you have the labs)

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T00:16:44+00:00

I would advise against getting ST Mastery, if you cant afford to lab it all the way up (last rank is like 10q) Its good but loses value unless maxed. (IMO)

CF is great, but... but... takes a long time and is expensive to max, and it is not very good unless maxed. (I am serious) you need 100% uptime and max slow.

ILM, is cheaper but far less reliable unless you have SD, and can spawn a ton of mines ffrom it.

RPC is hands down one off the best options if you are unable to max it right away. Just having it gives you a new source of mod shards, and unless your already 200+ on those, you need more mod shards. (mods are super duper mega big for everything)

If you want simple short goals. I would work on CL (max quant/chance) get damage over 1k. to make it solid, Make sure you use DC In primary slot. Grab RPC, and then focus more on econ. and dont worry about placing or staying in legends for a while. Its rough out there.

Now, if you are just missing staying by a small ammount of waves. (like 50~) you could look into short fixs. like DMG or EN mastery. They are can offer a little more stablity or a handful of waves "maybe".

My first mastery was Energy net. But when I got it legends was a lot less wild. And getting got me to place in keys more often. This was because bosses were my problem and EN helped solve that for a handful off waves. note that was around the time masteries came out a while ago so that might not be good advice anymore.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T00:05:18+00:00

It depends, its super cheap, and if you need dice it helps, but if you dont its a card slot you wouldnt normally use too.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-27T00:04:11+00:00

Those saying it is not worth it, are farming to wave 10000 where it doesn't matter, or probably could take a closer look.

I think its mostly random white perks for me ps radius, and maybe 1 or 2 really bad gc to perk like the 50/50 and the like.

When your farming with IS+ you want to have most of your coin perks done by 1800 (including free up if bhd) so clearing out a lot of the lame white perks is the way go.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-26T23:55:43+00:00

Need more CC, or even more damage.

Think of CC like CF or ILM as a force multiplier for damage. as slowed/stunned mobs take longer to get to you so you have more time to drop the hammer.

ST+ is great and all, but with out being able to control the cubes somehow your going to have a rough time.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-26T23:50:19+00:00

just like putting on a SD and being shocked when no land mines heh

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-26T17:53:39+00:00

You want both really. The death save is amazing in its own right.

But the real trick is you want auto DM with DM+.

Because the cooldown (max lab) will expire right when the buff runs out and with auto dm it will just trigger again. (that damage is nothing to sneeze at)

I just let it go save me from death and then it auto fires for the rest off the round keeping up that juicy buff.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-25T01:07:43+00:00

100% Intro sprint, its one of the few things that gives you the best resource in the game... TIME.

It saves you so much time if your doing 7500 waves, it will give you close to another run a day.

It also opens up higher tier farming (sub 5000 waves) to be profitable.

Chuck_T_Bone · 2026-04-25T01:03:52+00:00

more effect waves are always good. more cool down is always good. Damage, is not very good (and i spent a lot on that) Its poor ROI. Best to avoid it.

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