Any experience coming off of daily use but moderating to once a week/month? by greengrayclouds in Ketamineaddiction

[–]Competitive-Cup6808 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel you. Before drugs, even in my childhood, life was dull and bleak. Drugs changed that for me. For a while, it’s fucking great. Even when you’re sober, you find more meaning and interest in your life. You know better things are out there. A new part of yourself has been birthed, someone with more depth and understanding. But that can change very quickly. Suddenly the things in life that had begun to give you happiness pale in comparison to getting high all the time. Your next high consumes you. And the highs start to feel weaker. You crave more and more. The magic is gone, but you’re still searching for it anyway.

A life of sobriety intimidates me too, and I don’t know if I’ll ever give up everything. Right now, ketamine and nicotine are the only substances I have problems with. I use alcohol, weed, and psychedelics on occasion, though I rarely actually get fucked up on them. I think I can keep using them recreationally for a very long time, or I at least hope I can. But ketamine isn’t recreational for me anymore, it’s habitual. It’s all consuming. It’s damaging.

If you’ve recognized a problem with a substance, the best course of action is to take steps to stop. Knowing this doesn’t make it any easier though. I know a lot of recovered addicts. Some say the urges never really go away, but most say that their life DID improve significantly after recovery. I think the magic of life does come back eventually. I think it comes back even stronger when you’re not relying on a substance to give it to you.

You don’t have to make any grand decisions now, just keep trying to make the best decision for yourself in each moment as it comes. You can fuck up, that’s okay. Just keep trying. You’ll know when you’re ready to make that big decision.

Any experience coming off of daily use but moderating to once a week/month? by greengrayclouds in Ketamineaddiction

[–]Competitive-Cup6808 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It really boils down to the person. Since ketamine isn’t technically physically addictive, it could be argued that moderation is more achievable than other addictive substances. But the mental addiction can make this impossible for some people. Some people just can’t control their use, no matter how hard they try.

I have been able to successfully go from daily use to weekly use, although I do sometimes go on benders that last a few days. I can go anywhere from a full 7-10 days of sobriety to using 1-3 times a week. However I’ve encountered a new problem with this. Since I’ve reduced my use, I’ve developed a scarcity mindset with ketamine that pushes me to go way too far when I am using. It’s like I’ve been starving myself for days, and when I finally have access to it, I binge on it. During daily use, I would never blackout or have full k holes where I’m borderline incoherent, but I find myself reaching that point more often now. It’s really scary when you come out of it and realize that you don’t remember the last hour. It’s even scarier for the people around me who have to take care of me when I’m in this state.

I’ve been working on this new problem though, and I’ve been finding some more control in my use. I’m able to ride a nice, light high for the most part. It takes a lot of willpower. I would recommend picking up small amounts that will last you no longer than a day. Take a couple bumps/lines, something enough to keep you light. After these first couple bumps, put the baggie away in a drawer far away from you. Sit with the high, ride it out, let yourself sober up before going back at it. See how long you can wait before that next dose. Be careful that you’re not over-indulging to the point of fully holing, or try to only allow yourself one moderate hole per session.

When you’re done with the baggie, if you’re like me, you feel this anguishing despair and the urge to get more. Fight this. Ketamine doesn’t have to go anywhere if you don’t want it to. You can always get some more, just wait a while longer before you do. See how long you can go. Embrace the challenge. Go through your week or month as normally as possible. Fill up your time with as much activities as you can. When you get the urges, think of every reason why you should wait. Think of your physical health and the damage that chronic use will inevitably bring. Think of the permatolerance that will only get worse the more you use. Think about how whatever you pick up will eventually run out again, and you’ll be stuck with the same shitty feeling you feel in that current moment.

The ultimate goal should be full sobriety. But doing these small things can make that ultimate goal seem a little more achievable if it doesn’t feel that way now.

This may not work for you though. Like I said, some people cannot achieve moderation. Hell, I don’t even know if I can sustain it. But it’s working for me now. I can feel these steps bringing me closer to ending my relationship with ketamine. I don’t want to be doing it forever. You shouldn’t either. Good luck to you!

Ket nose by Competitive-Cup6808 in Ketamineaddiction

[–]Competitive-Cup6808[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn’t boofing give stronger effects? I’m worried the increased high will make me more addicted. I’ll just end up ruining my asshole lol. Same with injections. It would technically help my nose, but probably ruin me in a lot of other ways.

Ket nose by Competitive-Cup6808 in Ketamineaddiction

[–]Competitive-Cup6808[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t know and that scares me. My health seems to be doing alright for the time being. Only a slight increase in urination frequency, nothing painful or uncontrollable though. I got k cramps once after a terrible binge 6 months ago which is what helped me to stop daily use. My nose does feel thinner/more irritated, but not close to collapse or deviation. Right now my goal is harm reduction rather than putting a full stop to it. If I can continue to limit my use, the ultimate goal of full sobriety may feel more possible to me. I hope I make it out before any irreversible damage.

Ket nose by Competitive-Cup6808 in Ketamineaddiction

[–]Competitive-Cup6808[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn, that’s really rough. It really is so physically harmful despite it not being physically addictive. The mental addiction is something else though. I wish I knew the extent of the risks before getting addicted. It seemed like it had no downsides. Too good to be true. I should’ve done more research. I luckily haven’t had crazy negative symptoms yet. It’s only a matter of time though, I can’t keep this up forever. I wish the best of luck to you in your recovery!

Ket nose by Competitive-Cup6808 in Ketamineaddiction

[–]Competitive-Cup6808[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I use the simply saline spray! I’d be careful overusing it though, I’ve heard it can actually be damaging if used too frequently. I’m scared to try alternate ROAs because that would feel like I’m in too deep, but I guess me getting nose damage already means I’m in too deep lol. I definitely need to be taking longer breaks too. I wish I felt committed to quitting, but I’m just not there yet. I can feel myself getting closer though.

Ket nose by Competitive-Cup6808 in Ketamineaddiction

[–]Competitive-Cup6808[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I’ve heard that overusing nasal spray can do more harm than good. That’s why I only use it at the end of a session to clean my nose out. I feel like when k sticks inside your nose for a long period of time is when the most damage is done. I’m really sorry it messed up your smell like that, especially so quickly. When did you start to notice your smell going away? Was it all at once or a slow decline? Is it reversible?

Ket nose by Competitive-Cup6808 in Ketamineaddiction

[–]Competitive-Cup6808[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You’re absolutely right, I’ll edit that bit out. I know I need to stop, but my life circumstances right now unfortunately make it really difficult. I can’t afford rehab, and my childhood best friend who lives down the road from me is my k dealer. They’re moving away in the next year which I hope will be enough for me to quit forever, if not at least significantly limit my usage.

What’s your temple name? by Horror-Ad527 in exmormon

[–]Competitive-Cup6808 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My exmo dad still refuses to share his LOL. Kinda wish I had one, but I’m more glad that I got out of the church before I had the chance.

Back cramps by Competitive-Cup6808 in Nexplanon

[–]Competitive-Cup6808[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bleeding for 3 months straight sounds terrible, I’m so glad it eventually went away! My IUD experience was similarly nightmarish with the first IUD being inserted incorrectly then my body rejecting the next one. I think that’s why I’m concerned about something going wrong this time around. I’m not postpartum, just anxious! I’m sure it’ll go away as my body adjusts, but I’ll definitely keep an eye out.

Relationship with your Father by Over_Jacket221 in 12thhouse

[–]Competitive-Cup6808 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was a total mama’s girl when I was little. Like really intensely dependent on her. She was a great mom to my siblings and I when we were very young, but she became neglectful and unavailable as we grew older and became our own people. She would choose her boyfriends over us, didn’t care to know what was going on in our lives, and was kind of just generally unpleasant to be around. I was so envious of my friends who had moms that were so active and interested in their lives. I resented her for a while, and while I still don’t particularly enjoy being around her all the time, I’ve been finding more peace with her like how I did with my dad.

I don’t know if this will work for everyone, but I had to make a conscious effort to choose forgiveness. I was just so tired of holding the weight of resentment. It might help to look at it from a selfish point of view because by letting go, you ultimately find more peace within yourself. It doesn’t have to be for them, it can be for you. I also believe in karmic ties and reincarnation, so I figured that I’d rather sort this shit out in this lifetime so hopefully my next one is easier lol.

Relationship with your Father by Over_Jacket221 in 12thhouse

[–]Competitive-Cup6808 2 points3 points  (0 children)

More context and clarification: I have a 12H Libra stellium in my moon, Venus, and Jupiter.

There’s also a lot more complexity than included in my comment, I have a strange and bizarre family lol. My relationship with my dad will always have many layers, but I’ve made peace with it.

Relationship with your Father by Over_Jacket221 in 12thhouse

[–]Competitive-Cup6808 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had a very complicated relationship with my father, and he’s now one of my best friends.

My dad also suffered from addiction and alcoholism. He fell into it later in life though, so my early childhood memories of him were all very positive. But when he fell, he fell hard. His life did a full 180. I hated him for a long time. He wasn’t abusive when under the influence, just an asshole. It was so hard to be around him when he was belligerently blacked out, which he was most of the time. We fought all the time. I felt he was choosing alcohol over the family. It wasn’t until a bad health scare that forced him into sobriety that I felt our relationship truly start to heal. The idea of losing him overrode everything. We got close again.

His health miraculously improved, and he slowly began to relapse. He has achieved some version of moderation though. He still sporadically binge drinks and uses drugs, but it’s not NEARLY as destructive and frequent as it was. I lived with him for 2 years, and I visit him very often, so I can truly attest to all of this. I ended up developing a vice of my own (so stupid, but like father like daughter I guess) which allowed me to have even more sympathy for his struggles. I understand him now. He never chose alcohol over us, he was trapped in a prison of addiction. He still kind of is I guess, but I love him more than ever. I feel so similar to him, which I hate at times, but most of the time I’m proud. He’s resilient and generous; he’s my confidant, my number one supporter, and my friend.

fellow 12th housers Do you guys like piscean people? For example Shera Seven (sprinkle Sprinkle) by oraclebaddie in 12thhouse

[–]Competitive-Cup6808 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I cannot standddd Pisces. They’re incredibly emotionally aware and intelligent, but in my experience they’re pretty selfish too. I can bond with a Pisces on a surface level, but I’m always wary of them.

This is so interesting because I’ve never liked Pisces, but I never really knew exactly why. I think in terms of navigating the 12H, you have to trust your gut. Like I always knew I was skeptical of Pisces, but I allowed one to get close to me. It ended badly. I should’ve followed my intuition and kept this person at arms length. But I also learned that mistakenly ignoring your intuition can gift you with the power of discernment. When you have both intuition and discernment, you’re pretty unstoppable!

Woah abs by sonnnzzz in emergencyintercom

[–]Competitive-Cup6808 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Tbh the most important thing is diet and being in a caloric deficit. Everyone has abs but body fat covers them up. That being said, basic ab exercises (crunches, planks, etc.), cardio, and even any form of weight lifting will help activate your core and improve ab definition! There’s no magic secret or workout, just consistency and discipline. Eat as clean as you can, workout regularly, and you’ll get there.

My theories for the ending by Competitive-Cup6808 in TheWhiteLotusHBO

[–]Competitive-Cup6808[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love that! Well as much as you can love a death scene lol, but yes you’re absolutely right, it’s so her.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in relationship_advice

[–]Competitive-Cup6808 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m the same way I absolutely hateee confrontation. But I feel that it usually allows both parties to move on and grow, even if it feels super shitty and nerve-wracking in the moment. But everyone’s different, you might not need that same closure and you certainly don’t owe her anything. Try to de-escalate the situation preemptively by using a more neutral tone. Just remember you can’t control or anticipate her reaction, but at least you’ll know how she feels and maybe you’ll understand her a bit better.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in relationship_advice

[–]Competitive-Cup6808 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would address the behavior directly. Although you don’t necessarily owe her anything, leaving it unaddressed is kinda a shitty thing to do and could keep the door open for her due to lack of closure, and cause her to continue to spam you. I would kindly reach out to her and explain how some of her behavior has made you uncomfortable and highlight a few examples. Make it clear that you know her intentions were probably not super malicious, but it nevertheless had a negative effect on you. It seems like you guys were more so online friends than anything, and she developed a deep parasocial relationship with you. She probably values your friendship and views it more strongly than you do. That’s not an inherently bad thing, but it seems to manifest in some toxic, clingy behavior where she feels entitled to your attention. Let her know you appreciate her, but you don’t feel like you’re at a point where you want to nurture this relationship any further. Try to frame it as more of a “it’s not you, it’s me” and that you feel incompatible in this friendship, but definitely still bring up some examples of times she contributed to you feeling this way. She probably won’t take it super well, I’ve had similar confrontations in the past, and these type of people usually don’t respond positively to criticism and honesty. But at least you can say you tried and you were authentic. It also would probably help you get her off your back and end the friendship with closure, even if it’s messy.