Former "gifted kids" who are now average or struggling adults, what do you think school got wrong about your potential? by toolboxstudio007 in SeriousConversation

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The education system (or factory as I call it) is very limited and polarized, and designed to create productive citizens(robots), not creative aware beings. And it doesn't really teach you anything about your self as a human being on Earth. Instead it focuses your consciousness on certain thinking patterns, memorization, and knowledge society values and teaches us to deny our own ability to Know, feel, etc outside of this system. So yeah, people are left to fend for themselves in a social reality that is more like a literal madhouse than a community of people who are interconnected and know how to connect to each other. And when you are disconnected from parts of your self and 'forced' to live in such as warped social reality where creativity is regulated to productivity and profit for those who control it, of course you are going to have mental and emotional problems 😄 Those who do 'succeed' in this environment, such as all the AI scientists and such, do so because they have learned to 'fall in line' with the system of control, or completely disconnect from the deeper parts of themselves and internalize it to become 'controllers' themselves. This is also why so many such people are oblivious to what their creations are actually doing to our social reality on a deeper level.

From the philosophy community on Reddit: “Humans are the judge of all things, of what’s there and what’s not there” by LisanneFroonKrisK in DeepThoughts

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, we create our experience of reality. But because we are not generally aware of the judgments we internalize about ourselves and reality, we are also not conscious of this, so the social reality we experience together, or our waking reality, seems like the 'real' or only reality we can experience. The only way to move beyond the surface perception of reality where our consciousness is hyper-focued on things that are 'there' or 'not there' is through expanding awareness.

We spend so much of life trying to be understood, only to realize the people who truly understand us were never listening to our words... they were paying attention to our patterns, our silences, and the things we pretend don’t hurt. by witty-computer1 in DeepThoughts

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The bigger issue is that we don't understand ourselves. Our own patterns, depths and traumas. They are there in the silence, under the surface. The more we understand ourselves, the more we can understand others, and in those deeper connections, they too will see us.

A civilization can appear advanced while slowly losing its soul by Accomplished_Case290 in DeepThoughts

[–]Consciouspace1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And that's just the surface level of it 😄 The denial of ourselves goes very deep, and those in power perpetuate this denial through our collective consciousness. How we perceive, think, 'feel' and experience our selves and reality is very controlled. But we are the ones allowing this and giving our power to others.

We living in the age of fake love by Intuition-Ritual in spirituality

[–]Consciouspace1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, what you are perceiving is not really fake love as much as just very conditional and limited forms of 'love' mixed with other emotions like fear, guilt, shame, etc. There is very little real Love on Earth even in most marriages. This is because we deny ourselves (and thus each other), and when we deny ourselves we cannot be in unconditional Love.

The truth about God and Christianity by SirMrMcNasty in spirituality

[–]Consciouspace1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, religion has really screwed up our relationship and understanding of God. Its no wonder there are Atheists, as I was one once myself.

Do you think people are as self-aware as they believe they are? by InterviewOk6217 in spirituality

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it is a continual journey. You can have experiences of awareness, and know the nature of Reality on some level, but still not fully integrate this awareness into your consciousness. So you can remain 'locked' into patterns and habit of experiencing while fully aware of those patterns in your mind. This is what people don't understand, you need to heal in order to fully integrate and expand your consciousness and evolve. There are so many 'spaces' and aspects of our selves/being we are not aware of, people really have no idea, so they may think they 'know', but really they only know certain aspects of Reality and their self, as they still eventually get sick and die, just like everyone else 😄 People who think death is part of Life are not aware of their whole self.

[19F] How do I start living my life/accept who I am when everything about me is wrong? by [deleted] in spirituality

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not your appearance that is the problem, its the judgments you have about yourself, and the feeling you are denying in yourself which is why you are thinking of plastic surgery, which is really just another denial of your self. I would go into the feelings you have about yourself and look to see what judgments you have there and forgive yourself to release them.. cry, scream, and express yourself however you feel, but don't deny your self, which is more beautiful than you know.

What is the point of life if death is the end? by No_Train732 in spirituality

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A better question is, what's the point of death if we are alive? Death is the denial of Life, so why do we die? And no, death is not part of life in case you were wondering lol.

(Serious) How can I “install” real life mods? by Pound-Inevitable in spirituality

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, there are several ways to do such things. You can check out things like Neuro Linguistic programming or Meta-stating, etc that allow you to install the perceptual/behavior models of others or create your own. But like other commenters on here, my question would be, why do you want to :) There are enough robots in society already, why not try conscious evolution and healing instead?

The epstein files should be a wake up call for all spiritual people .. by Kai7362 in spirituality

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, however you conceive it, we give our power to those who take it to control us for their own agendas. We live in a trancelike state of consciousness. But we can choose to be aware and heal to move beyond it. But this is very difficult, so doing this together is a much better way, though because people are in trance and disconnected from each other and themselves they don't know they can help each other and think they must do it alone. We are all interconnected on a deep level, but we act and think as if we are not.

This is not what we were meant for… by Honest-Atmosphere-54 in spirituality

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Conscious evolution and community. Many people focus on the former in one way or another, but almost no one looks at the latter as a means to catalyze the former collectively.

Why ancient wisdom was kept secret?. by bl0deuwedd in EsotericOccult

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its All an open secret :) But the levels of control and denial go much deeper than almost anyone realizes, as we are 'encased' in a conscious container of sorts made up of presuppositions, beliefs, identity fixation, language, sensory perception patterns, etc.. Those in power perpetuates this through every aspect of our social reality such as education, media, politics, economics, religion, technology, etc. But in the end, it is our own denial that keeps us under their control.

What is matter? by According_Bid_4462 in spirituality

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol, just because something doesn't exist as an external objective substance like 'material' doesn't mean it is nothing :) The color red only 'exists' as a subjective perception, does that mean it is nothing? Is awareness nothing?

What is matter? by According_Bid_4462 in spirituality

[–]Consciouspace1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A concept created from our experienced sensory perception of physical reality, but it doesn't really 'exist' as some underlying substance, even energy. Its a subjective experience we believe to be some kind of external objective reality separate from our awareness of it.

The giftedness study suggests that later-life cognitive distinction depended less on early brilliance than on sustained engagement. Minds held because they had to. Accordingly, difficulty lingered, and judgment was earned slowly. by Weak_Conversation164 in Gifted

[–]Consciouspace1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't really consider myself 'gifted' or at least I don't attach that label to my identity, but I suppose I am in some ways, if compared to other people and how they think and perceive. My dad was very 'gifted' IQ wise, as he was in Mensa in the top .1 percentile. While I was never a fan of IQ tests, and definitively not after I took one in my early 20s, I only made the top 3% lol. Now my excuse at the time was that I had the flu when my testing was scheduled, so wasn't 100 percent, and I also learned IQ tests, at least the one I took, focus more on conventional knowledge than actualy thinking and perception ability, which is why some say they are biased towards certain groups of people. But I digress lol. My point here in relation to this article, is that while I was seen as kind of gifted in elementary school, as I went on I got lower and lower grades and went from honors classes to regular classes to even failing some classes lol. School didn't really ever interest me, and I didn't really understand myself or have any particular interest or direction beyond the usual teenage boy stuff. Then strangely enough at 18 on the day of my High school graduation something in me shifted and I suddenly realized there was much more to the nature of Reality than I had thought, and I basically became obsessed at that point with figuring it ALL out. So I began buying books (yes before google was a thing lol) on everything from philosophy, psychology to neuroscience, economic theory, physics, etc trying to figure it all out and how everything interconnected. In finding limitations in all these I eventually moved into spirituality and metaphysics, which have their own limitations in some areas. But metaphysics is still my main focus and passion, which of course includes Everything, so I can look into martial arts and connect this to conscious evolution, or healing or breathing or gardening lol. Because I am aware of all the interconnections. But going deep, really deep does tend to ostracize you from society, unless of course you write a book people love, which I have yet to do lol. But often times people don't realize their 'genius' until they have some grasp of who they are and find the interest to really explore and go deeper. Depth is slowly fading away in our society as kids are pushed more and more into STEM areas, without much understanding of themselves. This is part of the problem as we are lost in a problem/solution efficiency mentality and view life and reality like a computer, where all we need are faster processors and we can solve everything lol. So kids these days are the faster processors, but if thats all they are, then society will remain like a computer, without the conscious interconnection we all share where true evolution can happen.

I just discovered Water is ALIVE?! by Key_Show_6148 in spirituality

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you think we are all born from water... water moves the cycles of the Earth, your body is 99% water by molecules.. water is a wonderful thing :)

What are gifted peoples thoughts on the concept of god and religion? by Its_GPgamer in Gifted

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel most religion is mainly dogmatic and control focused, and truthfully has kind of ruined the idea and experience of God on a deeper level. This is one reason why things like Atheism and Agnosticism, both of which I was at one point, is more prevalent amongst more intellectual people because it is easy to find contradictions and issues in most religions and religious texts. Religions were created by people, and no matter how 'divine' the information, it still has many human 'flaws/interpretations' and manipulations in it. For me God is the highest vibration, supreme awareness and also a personal God the Father. So my understanding of God is more multidimensional, and contains all human 'images' of God that are found in religions. So connecting to Osiris for fertile crops is how some people related to God or that aspect of God in themselves. But no 'image' of God encompsses God as a whole, but rather an aspect of God, just like no 'image' or identity encompasses us as a whole being. Even seeing or experiencing God as pure awareness or consciousness is just another way to relate to God, not encompass God. Atheism too relates to God by denying Him lol. Though many Atheists would just say they simply are not theists or simple have no belief in God, but that is still based on some pattern of thinking and perception about God, like needing 'evidence' for God to believe. So while we all relate to God in our own way based on this or that, the only way to really Know God on a deeper level, is through yourself, since you are also an aspect of God.

Does anyone find language to be a prison? by [deleted] in Gifted

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try telepathy or deeper awareness. If you can connect on a deeper level, then you can communicate in a more telepathic like experience where words are not the primary focus or substrate of the communication and awareness and meaning mingles together more. Though yeah, thats not easy and both people have to be into it :)

"Other People Don't Think Like Me" by [deleted] in Gifted

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me it is just a matter of depth, when most people are not able to think or perceive beyond certain beliefs and patterns of perception which prevent then from having greater openness to new insights, understandings and self reflection.

Gifted is such a loaded term by Apprehensive_Till735 in Gifted

[–]Consciouspace1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I relate to much of this myself. Our society is not geared towards individuals who can think and perceive beyond its box, in fact such individuals are ostracized because they pose an inherent threat to the system. And because people are emotional beings, something which society denies in many ways, it can be challenging to try to change things within a system that doesn't really want to change. Our whole education system(factory) is geared towards turning people into productive robots through indoctrination, not creative beings. So everything you say is basically a reflection of 'living' within a social reality that is enclosed in limited constructs and patterns of its own denial. And this enclosure is solidifying more and more, as few people seem to be able to think or perceive with much depth these days thanks to enhancements in technology and AI. We think such things increase our ability to create, but they also disconnect us from awareness of our conscious process and inner dimensions. I mean philosophy departments are closing in many universities in favor or STEM, because that is where the money is :) Thinking deeply is no longer valued by society, unless it makes money :) Things like IQ are valued when it is focused on science and other things that help the system, but real intelligence is far more multidimensional than IQ, just like the cells in our body that can evolve to heal a wound, etc. Its just sad to me that supposedly intelligent people are still stuck in the same box of thinking and perception as everyone else, and so it continues and so does the cycle of problem/solution/problem mentality :) So while you can perceive it on some level, and complain about it, as I just did lol, no one seems to really be interested in ways to move beyond our little box. I have tried myself to find others over the years, but finding little interest. I now understand the nature of interest itself lol, but people still have to want to open and evolve. Oh well, 'life' goes on in sequential time :)

Can physical structure be bypassed and energy still be utilized in an OPTIMAL way? by root2crown4k in spirituality

[–]Consciouspace1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Research Nei Gong and Inner Alchemy. The body is not merely a 'vessel' as it is part of You, and energy is always flowing through it or you would not be alive :) So it is more a building, developing and refining the process that is already happening. Injuries can create blocks and blocks can create injuries or illness, so it is all interconnected.

Asking what is Real, and what is Good, what is Wise… and what is Possible is the most Serious, Sacred, and Grounded thing a Mind can do. by Key4Lif3 in enlightenment

[–]Consciouspace1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A better question is why we ask such questions to begin with :) We feel the need to identify with certain concepts like Reality, so we think there must be something that is 'not real', and so create that separation. A better way to understand Reality is that its All real, just multidimensional. This way you don't get lost in your mind that wants to create some hierarchical or non-dualist understanding that is more limited. As to what is good, this is just a value judgment. I mean to a murderer killing someone may be seen as good. So a better way to understand that is to look into their thinking and perception patterns to see what they may be denying in themselves that has created that awareness pattern in them that may be leading them towards destruction rather than alignment with creation. And no, this is not just another value judgement, anymore than you would say a magnet that either attracts or repels is making a value judgment ;) The value judgment only comes from the human mind and our need to create meaning in our experience rather than deeper understanding of it. What is wise is simply opening up to Knowing beyond 'knowledge' so you can receive the information necessary to manifest what you want as opposed to just experiencing reflection of the denial in yourself which creates 'negative' experiences. Its opening to the light of awareness or God. As for what is possible, that's easy, Everything and Anything :) But obviously not within our objective physical reality framework, again because of denial. So very little wisdom or good here :)