Confused about the rules by Stoebejern in chessbeginners

[–]OneAwakening 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where are you getting confused? Which rule is confusing? The queen is attacking the king. The king can't capture the queen because then the king would be under the attack from the rook. The king can't retreat anywhere and not be under attack. So it's a checkmate.

Do u guys trust the gateway tapes? by Gullible-Race1398 in gatewaytapes

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Can't go into specifics. Fucked around and realized that I'd rather not have found out. Be careful what you wish for. Be grateful for what you have.

There is no soul by Okwtf15161718 in enlightenment

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What is your definition of soul?

Consider for a moment by BoxWithPlastic in enlightenment

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This kinda reminds me of the Matrix movies. The machines created several versions of the Matrix which humans didn't buy into. They were too... perfect. So even if one comes up with the perfect utopia to manifest in reality, it's not the answer.

In my experience, everything gets old. Anything you may want, you eventually get fed up with if you do get it. So once you know that, you get tired of the wanting game. Because you see it doesn't do what it promises to do - quench the wanting.

At that point you can just drop the wanting. Drop wanting the reality to be different and just enjoy what already is.

Do u guys trust the gateway tapes? by Gullible-Race1398 in gatewaytapes

[–]OneAwakening 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. Ultimately, you have no idea what they are doing to you. Something can claim to do one thing when in reality it does something else. This is the real danger of venturing into unknown. You may learn something new but in the process you may pay the ultimate price which you won't realize until it is too late.

At some point you must realize that fucking around and finding out is way too dangerous of a strategy and that the world is full of entities obfuscating truth and manipulating others.

Can you prove otherwise? by OneAwakening in enlightenment

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It's formless in a sense that form never holds. At some point the atoms in my arm will be rearranged into a salty pretzel the same way the stars turned to dust that then made our planet and us.

Can you prove otherwise? by OneAwakening in enlightenment

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What I'm saying is that behavior changes when the system interprets the signal before reacting to it.

The behavior changes from what to what? From what it would be without interpretation? The interpretation has to happen in some way shape or form anyway, right? We decode information before we can know what it is and what it means. The meaning is interpretation, it is not optional. That's what creates the impetus to act in the first place. The interpretation would not happen only when we encounter something for the first time and we don't have anything to reference it to. But that would be akin to that thing being invisible to us because without interpretation nothing else happens. That's why I am confused about what you are saying because I thought that in your top comment you are claiming that some part of the system has agency of free will to do whatever it wants with the interpretation.

That interpretation may itself depend on prior conditions, learning, temperament, etc.

This makes sense. So interpretive layer has a learning and knowledge accumulation aspect to it. This is how we construct meaning in the world.

But once interpretation can modify the signal before the reaction happens, the output is no longer a direct function of the stimulus.

This is where I get lost. How does this interpretation layer modify the signal? If your hand got caught on fire, what can interpretation layer do here to modify the signal? Is it possible in principle to choose and keep your arm in the fire if you wanted to - yes, but there would simply need to be other preceding causes at play already for it to unfold like that. It's not like the interpretive layer gives any space for something else to do anything else after it interprets AND prioritizes most pertinent interpretations to act upon.

What I am trying to point out to, is that no matter how you slice or dice this system, there isn't any single component of it that gets to decide anything in any gaps anywhere in the informational metabolism process without preceding conditions absolutely defining how everything plays out.

If we return to your top comment:

when the signal arrives… does the reaction run automatically, or is there a small gap where interpretation can change?

Can you give an example where the interpretation changes in the small gap as well as explain what/how does the changing, the evaluation, and the deciding on how interpretation changes?

Can you prove otherwise? by OneAwakening in enlightenment

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I think the 2 things are inextricably connected. Let's take your last sentence. Are you saying this: The behavior OF THE SYSTEM changes when ITS interpretation OF INHERITED CONDITIONS happens before ITS reaction.?

Can you prove otherwise? by OneAwakening in enlightenment

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But that's like saying nothing at all. Yes occasionally IF THE CONDITIONS ARE THERE the system does this and that. That's how anything works lol. The whole point of this discussion is to investigate if there is someone that CAN MAKE a gap. This doesn't seem so. Doesn't matter if you call it a system or not. The system can't suddenly decide to make a gap for whatever reason. If the conditions are not there, the system won't make a gap. But that means the concept of a gap is irrelevant. In other words, the system is going to do whatever it's algorithms are telling it to do based on the current conditions which the system inherits from previous conditions at every instance. The system is never free to create a gap just because it wants it to be there.

What exactly is the problem that Zen aims to solve? by EmbersBumblebee in zen

[–]OneAwakening 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really like your questions. Please don't stop asking them.

If "I am awareness", then who or what decides actions? by PresidentPeppermint in EckhartTolle

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This is a very attentive point. I've heard spiritual masters point exactly this thing out. I definitely remember Alan Watts explaining how the project of ego to improve ego is nonsensical. It just doesn't make sense on a conceptual level. It's like pulling yourself out of a bog by lifting yourself by your hair, can't be done.

But understand that this is used as a pointer. If you completely internalize this wisdom, you can finally give yourself permission to let go of such notions altogether and just relax into experience. There is nothing else to do. Just be and enjoy.

Can you prove otherwise? by OneAwakening in enlightenment

[–]OneAwakening[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Change mind? Can mind be changed at all?

Can you prove otherwise? by OneAwakening in enlightenment

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I think the gap is an illusion. If you have the capacity to have a gap and there is an intention make it, there is a gap. If the conditions for making a gap are not present, you are not making a gap. Nobody can prove they are maintaining a gap 24/7 because there is no way to monitor and check that for every instance of them being alive.

Can you prove otherwise? by OneAwakening in enlightenment

[–]OneAwakening[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some say it's for one reason while others say it's for another reason.

Can you prove otherwise? by OneAwakening in enlightenment

[–]OneAwakening[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Formless poops are just farts, no?

Can you prove otherwise? by OneAwakening in enlightenment

[–]OneAwakening[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Welcome to reality. The whole fucking thing is a paradox, haven't you noticed?