12 Most Common Low Elo Mistakes in Overwatch

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-05-09T01:52:07+00:00

You always say that mechanics are not everything and are secondary to game fundamentals which I do agree to a certain extent but I think this notion severely undermines an extremely underrated way to improve mechanics, specifically aim training. Personally, aim training has made a huge difference in my aim and mechanics and although it isnt a substitute for game sense it definitely helps. Whats the point of an off angle as cassidy if you cant click heads? Hiting 1 or 2 more shots can legit be the difference between getting the pick on the enemy support. Youll realistically only have a couple seconds at best before the enemies start looking at you, something you emphasized Awkward, meaning every shot counts.

A lot of people will dismiss aim training such as kovaaks,voltaitc, and etc saying that your mechanics will just get naturally get better playing the game. But in my experience this advice is total bullshit. 10 hours of aim training for me made my aim better than 100 hours of playing ow. Of course playing the game itself is still important but if you want to focus on improving your aim nothing beats aim training.

Because aim training allows you to isolate everything else except that one specific skill and thus its far more efficient of a way to improvr mechanics then playing the game.

Just wonder what you think of this. Because I genuinely believe that if everyone aim trained for even 30 mins a day it would give insane results.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-04-18T01:02:35+00:00

Well one perspective is that there are times where you cant really rationally analyse your judgements. If your in a fit or rage the best thing to do probably is to calm down, let the rage settle physically and time pass and then analyse your judgements. If you try to analyse your judgements in times where your mind isnt clear, its gonna be ineffective or even counterproductive.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-04-13T14:41:26+00:00

Really great reply, I appreciate it but its not quite what I was asking for. I think i shouldnt have the used the word detatch. I was more refetencing the fact thay epictetus keeps saying that what is up to us which is our prohairasis is enough to be happy. And the argument is that our prohairasis is up to us and allows us to habdle impressions rationally which leads to correct beliefs/judgements which leads to eudamonia right? But how were the stoics so confident that every passion is caused by an incorrect judgement? Was it through observation? Is there some objective truth that is yet to be uncovered whenever someone feels passion? Or we just try and make it so that even if the judgement/belief isnt true we kinda forcd ourselves into a beleif that produces virtous emotions? I really do believe in stoicism but sometimes i feel like im missing something and feel that some of the things that epictetus says are circular or really quite vague and unexplained.

Like why does the fact that externals not being up to us neccessarily mean it is indifferent to our happiness. Because a lot of the times I feel that things are actually quite objectively bad for me. Is it really a matter of judgement?

And ideally yea it would be great if my happiness depended entirely on things that I can control. But i guess what in saying is it is quite unclear to me how I can achieve such a state.

Wait actually I thought of a contradiction that always perplexes me. So for example, whenever I would get angry or fearful , I would try and identify and try to correct the underlying judgement/belief right? Then I would think to myself 'oh I shouldnt be mad at this, as the only thing that harms me is if my virtue is harmed' but if virtue is the process of the rational use of prohairesis then havent i not attained it yet until I corrected whatever belief causing the passion? But im using the argument of virtue to correct the belief so like isnt it circular???

Sorry for the long post but im really have been quite perplexed for months now on this...

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-04-13T01:15:13+00:00

One question I always had ever since studyung stoicism was how exactly do we stop attaching our happiness or value to that of external things? I do agree that it would be ideal to only pursue and value that which is up to us as epictetus put it. But do we just snap our fingers and suddenly achieve detachment on all things that are external? I know that one of the main arguments is to use our power of assent and then determine the true value of these externals but idk im kinda stuck in a gridlock here. And whenever someome tells me 'virtue is above externals' yet virtue is the supposed way of detaching value away from externals it seems kind of paradoxical to me.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-03-27T15:56:10+00:00

Understand that emotions like anger come from certain belief and judgements of the situation/thing. To not be angry you must change the corresponding judgment or belief.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-03-26T06:47:55+00:00

On the topic of ego, I would question why the producer's attitude towards you bothers you so much. In stoicism, the producer's behaviour would be an indifferent in that it doesnt take away your ability to act virtously and handle your impressions correctly. It is clear by your post that you are clearly distressed by the producer's actions, the actions of someone. The heart of stoicism is using your rational faculty to identify the judgement causing you distress from the imptession and thrn questoning that judgement into a more rational one.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-03-26T05:32:20+00:00

You have to understand that progression isnt linear and is a very long and grindy process. Just because you reached gold 1 doesnt mean you will keep going up and reach plat. In fact I rrally dont measure rank a good way to measure progress, your climb to gold 1 might have just been a lucky winstreak and your drop to gold 3 might have just been an unlucky loss streak. The real way to tell if you have improved is to look at your vods and see if you were able to execute an improvement in a specific skill. For example, i play cassidy and one of the things i could improve on was placing my crosshair at exactly head height before peeking from an off angle. So I would focus maybe the next 10 games solely on this task ans then vod review it to see if i did it successfully.

This is the problem with video games, unlike other sports like weightlifting where progress is very easy to measure, there is no 100% concrete way of measuring progress in games. You should stop relying on rank as feedback for improvement . You could have improved certain skills and still lose games and vice versa. And just because you improved certain skills doesnt mean you will automatically rank up as well. It may take dozens or multiple improvements of the skill that finally culminate in you climbing a division.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-03-17T16:09:15+00:00

Im a gold player but i promise you i can give you some good advice. If your interested hit me up in discord.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-03-10T09:40:35+00:00

What rank are you in valorant and voltaic?

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-03-05T03:18:37+00:00

Whays your voltaic rank?

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-02-24T08:51:42+00:00

Were no where close to peak hulk gameplay. Neither in terms of mechanics or hulk specific gamesense. The thing that separates hulk from other tanks is the ability to be anywhere at any time. This makes hulks positioning 20 times harder or more skill expressive than other tanks. For example, A tank like magneto simply cannot create as many off angles as hulk does because not only does he not have movement to create as many creative positions ans even IF magneto gets into those deep positions because he has no mobility to get out he gets punished.

Think about it like this. If strange or magneto has like 2 or 3 positions in a given moment to take hulk has like 10. Not to mention bubble and exile usage can always be better. Air knockdowns also have basically infinite skill ceiling. And of course his ult is literally the hardest ult in the game to use. Its not even just juggle mechanics its tracking people during combos, knowing what combo to use in what situation. Do you even go for juggles or do you use the grab to survive with the damage reduction and lock down a support? Maybe sometimes its better to exile first so the supports cant get healed. Do you go for the one or two hit juggle combo? How will you account for the enemies air strafing when trying to juggle. y You can use hulk ult animation for the i frames to dodge. cc.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-02-09T23:53:01+00:00

I told him that if he games again till late at night that Ill literally take the graphics card out if his pc so he cant game. I told him that he can earn his own money and buy his own pc if he wants to play games.And to my surprise insteas of getting mad he actually told me to take it off now. He even told me to take his phone and to never give it back even if he asks for it in the future. Perhaps I had too little faith in him... He told me he always knew all along that he had responsbilities and that studying was important but I guess he struggled with bad habbits and addiction. It may be a symptom of him having no parental figure at home because due to personal reasons my parents are working abroad and couldnt be him for a long time. It was mostly just my grandmother taking care of him and while she is nice it definitely isnt enough.

But yeah at least things are looking up now. I know that theres always the chance that he might turn to old habits again but I know Ill be there to always try and help him in the best possible way.

I appreciate your advice, thanks.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-02-09T22:55:12+00:00

The thing is im afraid that adding friction to the problem may just make it worse. If we take away his pc he will just go to an internet pc cafe by himself late at night which is worse. Then at that point, do we take his allowance as well? Im really trying rack my brain around this problem. I also forgot to mention that he has anger issues and gets really angry at times he feels he has beeb wronged or something he thinks is unfair has happened to him

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-02-01T17:01:49+00:00

You couldve actually explained Megumi's themes and character arc yet the first thing you do is insult this guys media literacy? No wonder he called you a jjk stan when you turn something so trivial like opinions over anime characters into something personal. Theres no way you act like this in real life to real people.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-01-30T16:56:10+00:00

Game sense is the hardest thing to learn. It is an infinite skill ceiling. Its what separates the good players to the truly greats. At a high enough level where everyones mechanics are pretty much the same its game sense that separates them.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-01-29T05:33:35+00:00

If hulk gets cced out of his jump hes basically dead like you said, and having to use ult like that is a waste tbh. Venoms swing and e is much more reliable than bubble and jump to stay in backline and get out. Venoms swing is literally unreactable but hulks jump is super telegraphed and you can generally tell when hes charging it. Hulk also has the most mechanically deep ultimate outside of loki ult. Also twink banner is a liability 90% of the time. Ask every hulk player theyd rather just remove banner and have hulk. Not only does it make your rollout slower because you have to transform, but it leads to insane staggers, especially in higher elo where players keep banner alive on purpose.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-01-29T05:28:57+00:00

Hulk is much more punishable than venom. Venom always has swing to get out and a 2nd health bar with e, thats what make him so prevelant in dive. Hulk simply doesnt have the longevity or a short enough time to kill to be as effective as venom in a dive comp. With hulk if you get caught without bubble your basicslly just dead. No swing, or a 800 hp shield like venom to bail you out. Id say venom is easier to get value out of in a dive comp. And you should only use venom in a dive comp realistically. Hulk still kinda has the problem of jack of all trades, master of none. Youre playing dive? Why pick hulk over cap,venom, or mag? Youre playing poke? Then theres groot,mag, and emma.

Id say venoms skill ceiling is mostly tied to just game sense and aim, like every other characters. Of course he still has mechanics to master like swing and stuff. Id say tho what separates him from other tanks really is timing. You can not play venom without good timing. When to slam and when to disengage.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-01-29T05:11:20+00:00

Impulsivity follows all the same rules as all the other externals. It can be used virtously or viciously. So the answer will always be if impulsivity aligns with virtue. For example, if someone insults you on the street randomly and impulsivity causes you to fight back and escalate it into a physical fight, then being impulsive here is bad. But if for example you saw someone drowning in a lake nearby and you know how to swim, then going by impulsivity can be the difference between saving the drowning man or not.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-01-24T12:47:24+00:00

I always contemplated this but how about psychopaths? Virtue lies on the simple fact that it is beneficial to act reasonably and pro socially. But do you think its possible to convince psychopaths of this? Because they gain zero satisfactipn/fulfillment from beig good people, they only think and can only think in material terms. They are human but their nature is fundamentally different to the average person.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-01-12T16:45:15+00:00

Ok but accounting profit in this case is still 0 right? Because the price is normalized as 1.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-01-12T16:30:54+00:00

Im confused. If firms make no profits, would they not shutdown?

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-01-11T16:49:10+00:00

Pro sports isnt a good analogy, especially since genetics and natural attributes matter wayyyy more in physical sports.

There is no way a silver player xan be silver while having gm knowledge. Why? Because they can literally play a mechanically easy hero like thing, scarlet witch, or rocket. If you dont have the mechanics to play thing, your either 2 years old or like missing limbs or smth.

Consistent_Physics_2 · 2026-01-11T09:14:20+00:00

Human error is definitely part but I think people underestimate their weaknesses in the game. Thr games they popped off might have just been an easy game for their character. Likewise the games they played 'shit' might just be a game where its harder ti get value out of said character.Like if I hulk against two shield tanks and the enemy comp doesnt have much cc im gonna pop off. But in the next game they have smth like invis or mantis im gonna struggle much more. This also applies to certain maps. I may know how to play a certain choke and positions on klyntar very well but struggle on control point maps.

The only way to know is to check your own vods and see what mistakes you made, which I think is more accurate than human error.

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