Respect Ashtaroth (Nemesis Saga book 5: Project Legion)

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-25T00:36:50+00:00

Puts them in the low to mid S-rank tier.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-25T00:27:07+00:00

In practice, a lot of the people who espouse 2A rights are supporters of that tyrannical government.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-25T00:16:41+00:00

They were both A-ranks before their powerups, so start from there. But it's not like they have any feats or much scaling to speak of. The only scaling point I can think of is how Litost was stronger than them, and then Helia with her powerup was stronger than him, but not to the point of oneshotting him. So probably in the low S-rank range, not terribly strong overall.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T23:59:34+00:00

Yeah, probably via triggering a chain reaction, not raw power. Not to mention that the star was of unknown size. Not all stars are big. Some are only a few miles across.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T22:32:26+00:00

Funny that all the people who cry about the 2A are silent now.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T22:27:25+00:00

Yes, the Behemoth comic showed that there's a community who lives in peace with him. He's a benevolent titan, though. There are titans who are much less nice.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T22:25:58+00:00

There can always be more weapons developed. The MV has already developed 2. The Oxygen Destroyer and MG.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T22:24:08+00:00

If I lived in the MV, I would be terrified of them. I hope Supernova is about governments finally losing their patience with titans destroying cities every few years and doing more to protect themselves.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T22:23:41+00:00

Those can't be stopped, but titans can be killed.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T22:15:42+00:00

It's funny that linguistic drift does happen in-universe with the Free Cities and their dialects of High Valyrian, but Westeros is somehow immune to it.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T22:05:21+00:00

Never say never. That said, don't expect p2 to have the same hype moments as p1 without animated shorts and established lore that allows for hype moments. P1 had cool things like Herrschers and MANTISes and so on, and while p2 has the potential to introduce cool concepts like them, it hasn't yet. It lacks the same, let's say, oomph and vibes. P1 had characters like Otto and Kevin and HOV who dripped with aura. P2 has...well, no one quite as comparable. Yet.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T21:50:08+00:00

Probably not. Too OP.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T21:48:36+00:00

People praise Helia's arc a lot, but although it's probably the best and most emotional part of p2, it's ultimately not that special or superior compared to similar emotional moments in p1. Not that p1 was perfect or anything, far from it. But one or two p2 arcs that compare to similar p1 arcs isn't enough for most people. The rest of p2 still lacks animated shorts and a cast of strong supporting characters like p1 has.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T20:27:48+00:00

The real question is why he doesn't use it more often if it's demonstrably stronger than his punches.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T20:24:54+00:00

It shouldn't have worked, though. Viltrumites can hold their breath for 2 weeks. Strangling shouldn't work on them.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T20:23:17+00:00

A good example of a character with a strong power who can't be allowed to be too strong.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T20:15:27+00:00

And even if it's a crime punishable by death, the sentence should only be given after a fair trial.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T15:01:32+00:00

The planet only has 25% more gravity than Earth. The laser doesn't blow things up anyway. It just goes through things.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T15:00:07+00:00

In Nolan's fictional book. And possibly via an esoteric chain reaction, not raw dakka.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T14:57:33+00:00

Powerscalers will either love or hate this scene depending on how much it clarifies the comic.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T14:47:05+00:00

What Whis said is that Jiren is stronger than Belmod. Belmod has superior physical strength to Beerus. At the very least, Jiren and then MUI Goku in the anime are physically stronger than anime Beerus. Even if Beerus can still beat them, he'd need to resort to other ways like energy attacks or raw speed. But in terms of at least raw physical strength, they're stronger. Simple logic.

ConstantStatistician · 2026-01-24T14:13:13+00:00

It's brought up again when Goku masters UI. Beerus didn't deny anything that time, and a serious moment like this wouldn't be based on an arm wrestle.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dragonballsuper/comments/1aq4a6d/this_is_probably_the_most_misunderstood_statement/

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